Hunter shoots snorkeler

Rushlimbo

Another brilliant hunter. Cheney and the NRA must be proud.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/10/snorkeler.shot.ap/index.html

EUGENE, Oregon (AP) -- A snorkeler who was shot in the face after he was apparently mistaken for a swimming rodent was in good condition after surgery, a hospital said Saturday.

John William Cheesman, 44, of Springfield, underwent eight hours of surgery Thursday to remove bullet and bone fragments from his face, said his wife, Shelley Cheesman.

"He's doing really well," Shelley Cheesman said. "The bullet hit in front of his right ear, where the bone is the most dense. It just fragmented and didn't go into his brain."

He was listed in good condition at Oregon Health & Science University Hospital in Portland.

William Roderick, 60, of Reedsport, has been charged with assault, being a felon in possession of a firearm, and possession of methamphetamine and marijuana. He was being held in the county jail.

Roderick told deputies he thought Cheesman was a nutria swimming in the Smith River near Reedsport, about 90 miles southwest of Eugene, and shot him with a .22-caliber rifle, police said.

A nutria is a water-dwelling South American rodent species that is larger than a muskrat but smaller than a beaver. It was introduced to U.S. waters in the 1940s, according the National Wildlife Federation.

Cheesman, an avid diver, was in the river looking at different species of fish, his wife said. He swam to the river bank and yelled for help.

Roderick and another man came to Cheesman's aid in a boat, called 911 and drove him to an ambulance.

"I do give him credit for helping him," Shelley Cheesman said of Roderick.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

jeffbr

Rushlimbo wrote:

Another brilliant hunter. Cheney and the NRA must be proud.

Total non sequitur. The guy was a felon and a meth user. He was illegally in possession of a firearm. Have you ever actually heard the NRA endorse felons and drug addicts possessing firearms? In fact, the NRA is a very strong proponent of harsh punishment for crimes committed with firearms.

El_Kabong

ppl hunt swimming rodents??

jeffbr

El_Kabong wrote:

ppl hunt swimming rodents??

I was wondering about that. The "hunting" part came from limbo's title. I don't know if the crack head with the gun was just shooting shit for fun, doing some pest control, or really hunting. I can't imagine hunting nutrias for their meat, but apparently people do eat them. Blech.

Rushlimbo

jeffbr wrote:

In fact, the NRA is a very strong proponent of harsh punishment for crimes committed with firearms.

Unless the hunter in question is drunk and the VP of the United States. Then they are strong proponents of coverup.

Rushlimbo

jeffbr wrote:

I can't imagine hunting nutrias for their meat, but apparently people do eat them. Blech.

Actually they could be found on menus in the finest restaurants in New Orleans pre-Katrina.

Smellyman2

El_Kabong wrote:

ppl hunt swimming rodents??

ppl snorkle in Oregon in February? brrr.

South of Seattle

Smellyman wrote:

ppl snorkle in Oregon in February? brrr.

And they surf

trappedinmyradio

jeffbr wrote:

I was wondering about that. The "hunting" part came from limbo's title. I don't know if the crack head with the gun was just shooting shit for fun, doing some pest control, or really hunting. I can't imagine hunting nutrias for their meat, but apparently people do eat them. Blech.

it should be "hunting" nutria...they are rodents and need to be thinned out in certain areas...i hope that this guy stops "hunting" if he can't differentiate betweenn a HUMAN and a nutria.

western pearl

Lol, another anti-hunting thread. An article about a screwed up old man (probably insanely high) shooting a person gets turned into an anti-NRA thread. Way to distort the truth.

tybird

trappedinmyradio wrote:

it should be "hunting" nutria...they are rodents and need to be thinned out in certain areas...i hope that this guy stops "hunting" if he can't differentiate betweenn a HUMAN and a nutria.

Another brilliant move by man in releasing a non-native animal into our ecosystems. Actually, the nutria in the U.S. needs to be wiped out.....they are one of the factors in the loss of swampland in Louisiana.

As a rule, legal hunters trap swimming rodents as opposed to shooting them. If you shoot a swimming rodent while it is swimming.........retrieval can be a problem. This particular dude was probably out shooting "shit" as opposed to legally hunting.

Rushlimbo

western pearl wrote:

An article about a screwed up old man (probably insanely high) shooting a person gets turned into an anti-NRA thread. Way to distort the truth.

No, we are not talking about the Cheney hunting story here. I believe he was drunk, not high, but anyway. Stay focused.

sponger

i can't believe he's doing meth at age 60. That's like paranoia + alzheimers.

trappedinmyradio

tybird wrote:

Another brilliant move by man in releasing a non-native animal into our ecosystems. Actually, the nutria in the U.S. needs to be wiped out.....they are one of the factors in the loss of swampland in Louisiana.

As a rule, legal hunters trap swimming rodents as opposed to shooting them. If you shoot a swimming rodent while it is swimming.........retrieval can be a problem. This particular dude was probably out shooting "shit" as opposed to legally hunting.

"hunting" and "shooting" are definitely different things. this dude WAS just shooting shit. you're right on that one. the lesson, here, is that people can get guns regardless of the stopgaps in place.

tybird

Has the Nutria made to Oregon? Or were some released there? This is a tropical animal that we are talking about.......

Pearl Jam and toast

jeffbr wrote:

Total non sequitur. The guy was a felon and a meth user. He was illegally in possession of a firearm. Have you ever actually heard the NRA endorse felons and drug addicts possessing firearms? In fact, the NRA is a very strong proponent of harsh punishment for crimes committed with firearms.

yeah I wouldn't jump to blame guns in this case either.. maybe that METH had something to do with it :rolleyes:

korby

the NRA is SHIT . so is hunting for sport

miller8966

korby wrote:

the NRA is SHIT . so is hunting for sport

Drugs are worse.

This thread is unbelievably stupid.

Rushlimbo

miller8966 wrote:

This thread is unbelievably stupid.

LOL, how appropriate. Glad you could make it then. Nothing ignorant would be worthwhile without the Miller boy !

Smellyman2

tybird wrote:

Has the Nutria made to Oregon? Or were some released there? This is a tropical animal that we are talking about.......

The are everywhere in Oregon and Washington. They cause a lot of problems burring holes in the diking systems that surround many cities. They have government trappers who trap them to thin them out. Never heard of your average Joe being able to hunt them.

jeffbr

korby wrote:

the NRA is SHIT . so is hunting for sport

Wow, we're so lucky to have your insight. Welcome to the board. Hopefully you'll learn something here.