I think that governments have learned that if they just don't react to the protests, especially no police intervention, that it just peters out. It won't get news covergae. So it requires the protesters to move from mere civil disobediance to, usually, rioters to become the news. That's just how the government wants you to be portrayed as stupid, senseless rioters. The WTO riots are a great case in point. Piloce and government don't react to the protests and acts of civil disobedience but only to the rioting. Any message originally to be found or broadcast is lost in the reporting of the rioting.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I think that governments have learned that if they just don't react to the protests, especially no police intervention, that it just peters out. It won't get news covergae. So it requires the protesters to move from mere civil disobediance to, usually, rioters to become the news. That's just how the government wants you to be portrayed as stupid, senseless rioters. The WTO riots are a great case in point. Piloce and government don't react to the protests and acts of civil disobedience but only to the rioting. Any message originally to be found or broadcast is lost in the reporting of the rioting.
perhaps.......
the media absolutely plays a huge role, both good and bad...and all sides try and 'use' the media to their advantage, such a powerful tool.
i was hoping for more outside of protest, but i don't think there is much else being done in that regard....or, not enough ARE vocal about it to truly know....and thus as nick has mentioned, something like withholding taxes would have a negligible to nil effect without publicity and/or large #s participating.
no matter what, we DO know acts of civil disobedience do work....and it is a very cool/powerful tool at times.
no matter what, we DO know acts of civil disobedience do work....
I think we know civil disobediance did work. I'm not sure if it does anymore. The level of apathy I think is too great to ever garner enough support for a civil disobediance cause for it to work. Look at how much less effective the Vietnam War movement was than the Civil Rights movement. Governments have learned and adopted.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I think we know civil disobediance did work. I'm not sure if it does anymore. The level of apathy I think is too great to ever garner enough support for a civil disobediance cause for it to work. Look at how much less effective the Vietnam War movement was than the Civil Rights movement. Governments have learned and adopted.
yeesh...that's a depressing way to look at it. not saying you're wrong, don't really know with any certainty one way or another. if nothing else, i would have to agree that to some extent it must be true, but i do hope that all the power of it has not completely dissipated....
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when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
perhaps.......
the media absolutely plays a huge role, both good and bad...and all sides try and 'use' the media to their advantage, such a powerful tool.
i was hoping for more outside of protest, but i don't think there is much else being done in that regard....or, not enough ARE vocal about it to truly know....and thus as nick has mentioned, something like withholding taxes would have a negligible to nil effect without publicity and/or large #s participating.
no matter what, we DO know acts of civil disobedience do work....and it is a very cool/powerful tool at times.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
yeesh...that's a depressing way to look at it. not saying you're wrong, don't really know with any certainty one way or another. if nothing else, i would have to agree that to some extent it must be true, but i do hope that all the power of it has not completely dissipated....
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow