John McCain Fuck Yeah!!!

my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
thats it johnny boy... win that Republican nomination...


because when you go national with that "we'll be in iraq for 100 years" shit Mr. Senator, you are going to get blown out


McCain is a wet dream nomination for the democrats... i love it!
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    he will be the next president if Hilary is nominated
  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    can you imagine if we're forced to choose between hillary and mccain?

    scary.
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Wouldn't be so sure of that.
    The polls I've seen shows that both Hillary and Obama will beat any of the other rep candidates by a landslide, but mccain actually ties with them both. Best candidate for the dems would be Huckabee I think.

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    he will be the next president if Hilary is nominated
    he will be the next president if obomb or hillary are nominated....

    and that puts a great big fucking smile on my face....
    Take me piece by piece.....
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Wouldn't be so sure of that.
    The polls I've seen shows that both Hillary and Obama will beat any of the other rep candidates by a landslide, but mccain actually ties with them both. Best candidate for the dems would be Huckabee I think.

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    well the polls in norway are way off ;) hilary is not seen to be getting more then 40% total vote in a nationwide election. but who the hell knows. :) we dont until it happens.


    and this thread is really dumb. mccain is probably the only republican that can win an election. the dems should be praying he doesnt win the nom.
  • McCain for WW3....

    Your great grandchildren will be cursing you from the trenches...

    Just leave Bush in ffs...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well the polls in norway are way off ;) hilary is not seen to be getting more then 40% total vote in a nationwide election. but who the hell knows. :) we dont until it happens.
    Certainly. But polls often give ball park estimations. And I used an american site for this. http://www.realclearpolitics.com. There is a segment in there with head to head polls. Here McCain vs Hillary or Obama is right down the middle.

    and this thread is really dumb. mccain is probably the only republican that can win an election. the dems should be praying he doesnt win the nom.
    I agree. I think it looks like he is the rep candidate to have the most appeal to non-republicans. The dems would have a walk in the park with religious nut Huckabee or freak-vote Paul. Romney I dont know enough about.

    So for the democrats, I wouldn't cheer for McCain but pray for Huckabee (sic).

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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    unfortunately 8 years too late. I thought he was one of the more rational politicans I've come across. Can't agree with everyone on all points, but I'll be pleased for the country if it winds up McCain and Obama from the major parties because these guys tend to be less full of shit than the rest of em.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    McCain for WW3....

    Your great grandchildren will be cursing you from the trenches...

    Just leave Bush in ffs...

    my great grand children will only curse if they enlist. also can you please tell me why you think McCain will start WW#? other than telling me look at history or this website?
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  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    despite the fact he's pro-life and for the war, he still looks saner than the other Republicans.

    so in the interest of democracy, I'd rather see him as a candidate.
    In the interest of the Republicans getting the fuck out of there, I hope he isn't.

    gosh I can't imagine having to vote in a McCain-Clinton face off.. how depressing!
    (well I can't vote anyway I know)
  • Thecure wrote:
    my great grand children will only curse if they enlist. also can you please tell me why you think McCain will start WW#? other than telling me look at history or this website?

    The old "1000 more years or forever if necessary".... "fight terrorism until it's won".... every time he opens his mouth might be a bit of a dead giveaway...

    That guy has a raging hard on for stirring up shit in the middle east. That is what is called WW3 because China and Russia are going to get involved the second Iran is touched.

    McCain will make this happen if given the chance...."never say die" is his motto..."fight forever".......he's out of touch....big time.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    he will be the next president if obomb or hillary are nominated....

    and that puts a great big fucking smile on my face....

    You're only half right, Speedy. McCain probably does not beat Obama in the general election. It is true that he KILLS hillary. To say, as the OP did, that McCain is the dems "wetdream" is saying a bit much as hillary wil not beat him. That being said, if it comes down to cunton versus McCain, i'm vting for PEDRO.
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  • cornnifer wrote:
    You're only half right, Speedy. McCain probably does not beat Obama in the general election. It is true that he KILLS hillary. To say, as the OP did, that McCain is the dems "wetdream" is saying a bit much as hillary wil not beat him. That being said, if it comes down to cunton versus McCain, i'm vting for PEDRO.

    The only diff between Hillary and Obama in the end is little...

    Their foreign policy adds up the same.

    If you disagree state the differences.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    I would have been a lot more enthusiastic about McCain eight years ago. Now... meh. He seems to have lost some of his independent spirit in the primaries. First, he was kissing Bushy's ass after Rove and Bush smeared his ass all over the place. Then he decided we needed troops in Iraq forever. Then he cozied up with the evangelicals. I realize that in the primaries the candidates move to the extremes before coming back closer to center for the general election, but I've lost all respect for the man. That being said, he's the best candidate the Repubs have. Now that it appears Edwards is dropping too, I'll say this now. Obama in '08 - out.
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    The old "1000 more years or forever if necessary".... "fight terrorism until it's won".... every time he opens his mouth might be a bit of a dead giveaway...

    That guy has a raging hard on for stirring up shit in the middle east. That is what is called WW3 because China and Russia are going to get involved the second Iran is touched.

    McCain will make this happen if given the chance...."never say die" is his motto..."fight forever".......he's out of touch....big time.

    what an ass, how dare he say we have to fight terrorism until it is won. and i will say it again about that 100 year thing, read ther context of teh quote not just using your 10 second youtube. yet again, i didn't know that you read minds. oh and by the way that whole "never say die, Fight forever" has never been stated before by mcCain. so maybe you should stop the sterotypes. or maybe you just really want to watch the new RAMBO movie.
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  • Thecure wrote:
    what an ass, how dare he say we have to fight terrorism until it is won. and i will say it again about that 100 year thing, read ther context of teh quote not just using your 10 second youtube. yet again, i didn't know that you read minds. oh and by the way that whole "never say die, Fight forever" has never been stated before by mcCain. so maybe you should stop the sterotypes. or maybe you just really want to watch the new RAMBO movie.


    there's video of him saying he will fight terrorism forever if he has to..and that there is going to be more wars so we should get used to that reality as well.

    It's all right there..

    The guy is a nutcase.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    there's video of him saying he will fight terrorism forever if he has to..and that there is going to be more wars so we should get used to that reality as well.

    It's all right there..

    The guy is a nutcase.

    the video again is cut. i find it very funny that you talk about the media and don't realize that the internet is cut up to express the idea that the person posting wants to express.

    it is the job of the president (also as the commander and chief) to protect the people. if RP was elected and there was an attack i would want the president to fight back.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Did anyone else see his following Osama "to the gates of hell" line during the debate a couple of weeks ago? Classy. South Carolina loved it though.
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  • Thecure wrote:
    the video again is cut. i find it very funny that you talk about the media and don't realize that the internet is cut up to express the idea that the person posting wants to express.

    it is the job of the president (also as the commander and chief) to protect the people. if RP was elected and there was an attack i would want the president to fight back.


    Don't ever try to pretend McCain is not pro military intervention....gmab...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Don't ever try to pretend McCain is not pro military intervention....gmab...

    I don't know who would be worse? McCain or Rudy as far as the use of military force. Now that Rudy is out it really makes me wonder who would have gone apeshit crazy with the military.
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Don't ever try to pretend McCain is not pro military intervention....gmab...

    i am not pretending that he isn't what i am saying is that if as teh commander in chief, i want McCain to protect me. that is his job.

    let me ask you a questions, if a cop see someone trying to break into your home, shoudl teh cop try to stop that person or wait until that person breaks in.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • Thecure wrote:
    i am not pretending that he isn't what i am saying is that if as teh commander in chief, i want McCain to protect me. that is his job.

    let me ask you a questions, if a cop see someone trying to break into your home, shoudl teh cop try to stop that person or wait until that person breaks in.

    The preemptive thing is a Bushism. It's Bush doctrine...he created it.

    It's a disaster approach. You gotta break the cycle...the Arab world does not want to destroy America. It's propaganda. It's like Israel and Palestine...it's never ending disaster, and we definitely know better.

    The admin uses war to fuck us over. It's a business scam for them.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    The preemptive thing is a Bushism. It's Bush doctrine...he created it.

    It's a disaster approach. You gotta break the cycle...the Arab world does not want to destroy America. It's propaganda. It's like Israel and Palestine...it's never ending disaster, and we definitely know better.

    The admin uses war to fuck us over. It's a business scam for them.

    for a person who says he know alot about history how can you say that preemptive is bush doctrine. our world is based on preemptive beliefs. we have to seperate Arab world from Osama and the like. let's not be confused, Osama is not some poor sap

    also you did not answer my questions..
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
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  • Thecure wrote:
    for a person who says he know alot about history how can you say that preemptive is bush doctrine. our world is based on preemptive beliefs. we have to seperate Arab world from Osama and the like. let's not be confused, Osama is not some poor sap

    also you did not answer my questions..

    As to your question, were not seeing anyone doing anything...it's all based on invisible paranoia. Not a good example.

    The Bush admin has introduced the pre emptive scenario as full on policy. He's known as the guy to bring it into it's raging propagandic glory. Running around the globe picking fights... It's lunacy... a guaranteed path of self destruction.

    It's all an MIC make work scam...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    there's video of him saying he will fight terrorism forever if he has to

    And this is a bad thing?

    ..and that there is going to be more wars so we should get used to that reality as well.

    Um, this is true no matter who is elected. Do you live under a rock?
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  • And this is a bad thing?




    Um, this is true no matter who is elected. Do you live under a rock?


    With McCain? yeah...fuck yeah...

    I wouldn't want to get in a cab where the driver says instead of maybe crashing or he'll try to never crash...were definitely going to crash instead, and a few times at that so expect it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
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  • Thecure wrote:
    i am not pretending that he isn't what i am saying is that if as teh commander in chief, i want McCain to protect me. that is his job.

    let me ask you a questions, if a cop see someone trying to break into your home, shoudl teh cop try to stop that person or wait until that person breaks in.

    should cops go door to door to everyone with a criminal record and anyone who (demographicly speaking) is likely to have a criminal record and break into their houses kill them and their families and occupy the house?

    That's a slippery slope indeed my friend.

    One of the reasons why Bill Clinton was a great president is that he realized the value of *gasp* diplomacy as a prevention method. He recognized that surrounding himself with the most brilliant diplomatic minds was a smarter way to go. military action was (as it fucking well should be) the absolute last resort.

    that's a quality I see in Obama and it gives me hope.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    With McCain? yeah...fuck yeah...

    I wouldn't want to get in a cab where the driver says instead of maybe crashing or he'll try to never crash...were definitely going to crash instead, and a few times at that so expect it.

    Your analogy doesn't work. Because war is inevitable. A crash is not. There have been wars for thousands of years. They aren't just going to stop one day, cold turkey.

    I would say McCain is just telling the truth, which, in most cases, is an admirable quality in a politician.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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  • Your analogy doesn't work. Because war is inevitable. A crash is not. There have been wars for thousands of years. They aren't just going to stop one day, cold turkey.

    I would say McCain is just telling the truth, which, in most cases, is an admirable quality in a politician.


    If you follow McCains approach expect the crash. That's why he's saying to expect it, because he is planning on it....literally.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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