What's the fucking deal with gas prices?

my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
Doesnt it make you want to bitch slap the CEO of Exxon everytime you fill up? I mean for fucks sake!
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    my2hands wrote:
    Doesnt it make you want to bitch slap the CEO of Exxon everytime you fill up? I mean for fucks sake!

    I never ever stop at ANY Exxon/Mobil stations including all the other majors too.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    g under p wrote:
    I never ever stop at ANY Exxon/Mobil stations including all the other majors too.

    Peace

    neither do i... i get my gas at a conveneince store "Wawa" where it is cheaper then all the rest.

    i have not gassed up at exxon in nearly 2-3 years probably
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    my2hands wrote:
    neither do i... i get my gas at a conveneince store "Wawa" where it is cheaper then all the rest.

    i have not gassed up at exxon in nearly 2-3 years probably

    Same here it's been about 4 years and buy from local in town called *Lowest In Town* and Costco. Two years ago a friend I were coming back from a festival Grass Roots in upstate NY and she stopped at a Exxon while I slept.

    I woke up while we were there and she had already paid for the the gas. i went in there and told the attendant i don't use Exxon gas and i demanded the money back. He was puzzled but gave it back to me. Little did I know we were on fumes just about but we made it to the next exit.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    g under p wrote:
    Same here it's been about 4 years and buy from local in town called *Lowest In Town* and Costco. Two years ago a friend I were coming back from a festival Grass Roots in upstate NY and she stopped at a Exxon while I slept.

    I woke up while we were there and she had already paid for the the gas. i went in there and told the attendant i don't use Exxon gas and i demanded the money back. He was puzzled but gave it back to me. Little did I know we were on fumes just about but we made it to the next exit.

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    thats a little crazy
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    my2hands wrote:
    thats a little crazy

    I know but I take things to the extreme. :)

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  • writersuwritersu Posts: 1,867
    I met this guy who was a vietnam vet and currently an uncle of a guy who is in the war now.....

    and I asked him what he thought about the war........being a man I highly respect who went where I would never ---both of them I guess.....

    and he said he asked his nephew who was home and his nephew said that yeah, but this is about gas prices.......

    so we turned the talk into gas prices and the supply and demand thing and he said that if we were to end the war like many people would like to see (and about 3/4 or better of any board I have seen here it seems), then we should take our soldiers, "beef up the borders" and use our own gas that we have in Texas and Alaska that he said would sustain us for like 20-25 years he said, (I know nothing of statistics so those who sound like they do are automatically right inb my book).

    Do you think that gas would go down?
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  • My3rdEyeMy3rdEye Posts: 927
    they go to 12 to 15 dollars a gallon as some predict?

    http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=138&a=6688

    Not only will this break us at the pump but think of food costs and other products as well. Delivery charges? Through the roof.

    I don't know that it will get that high but I wouldn't be suprised to see 6 or 7 a gallon.
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    You can't beat them, join them. My Exxon/Mobil stock has been very nice over the last few years.
  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    my2hands wrote:
    neither do i... i get my gas at a conveneince store "Wawa" where it is cheaper then all the rest.

    i have not gassed up at exxon in nearly 2-3 years probably
    I love Wawa:)
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I'm giving up on gas.. fortunately I'm only a 15 minute walk from work.. I'm only going to use my car now to visit family and friends who live in the burbs..
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The average price per barrel of oil for 2002 was about $23 bucks and I paid a about about $1.45 per gallon of gas.

    In 2008, the price is $135 a barrel of oil and I'm paying $3.75 for a gallon of gas.

    So even though the price of oil has increased 6 fold, gas had only increase a little less than 3 fold. So we should be lucky we're not paying 6 bucks a gallon already.

    The problem is as long as speculators keep driving the price up per barrel, the price of gas at the pump is not going to fall anytime soon.
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    g under p wrote:
    I never ever stop at ANY Exxon/Mobil stations including all the other majors too.

    Peace


    You do realize that those little stations probably buy their gas from Exxon/Mobil or one of the other big gas companies. There was a story here a couple of years ago about how one of the east coast provinces put a cap on gas prices and the only ones it hurt were the little small time gas stations, because they had to buy their gas from the major companies and couldn't sell it for high enough to make a profit. The major company stations had no problem since they could supply gas to themselves for cheaper than they would to the independent stations.

    And I don't see why people in the US complain so much about gas prices. You do realize that you pay some of the lowest gas prices in the industrialized world. A lot of places in Canada have prices that are approaching $5 a gallon.
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    My wife said she read a story about Exxon making so much profit last quarter they claimed they literally just didn't know what to do with it. So, they gave extra dividend checks to their shareholders. Which is great for the shareholders, but here's a novel idea - why don't you pass a little love on down to the consumers!
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    gabers wrote:
    My wife said she read a story about Exxon making so much profit last quarter they claimed they literally just didn't know what to do with it. So, they gave extra dividend checks to their shareholders. Which is great for the shareholders, but here's a novel idea - why don't you pass a little love on down to the consumers!


    If you want some of that cash, why not just buy some shares of Exxon Mobile? To a degree I can't really fault the oil companies for making a bunch of money. I mean they never told people to live an hour away from from their job so that they can have the 5 bedroom house. They are not the ones who told millions of people to buy giant gas guzzlers that they don't really need. Maybe people should take a bit more responsibility for the amount of money they are spending on fuel.
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    If you want some of that cash, why not just buy some shares of Exxon Mobile? To a degree I can't really fault the oil companies for making a bunch of money. I mean they never told people to live an hour away from from their job so that they can have the 5 bedroom house. They are not the ones who told millions of people to buy giant gas guzzlers that they don't really need. Maybe people should take a bit more responsibility for the amount of money they are spending on fuel.

    I agree with taking more responsibility, I just found it ludicrous that Exxon didn't know what to do with all of their windfall profits. Or how about investing in alternative fuel/power sources? Oil by the time we're all old and grey if these companies haven't figured out other ways to power our cars they won't be around.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    The average price per barrel of oil for 2002 was about $23 bucks and I paid a about about $1.45 per gallon of gas.

    In 2008, the price is $135 a barrel of oil and I'm paying $3.75 for a gallon of gas.

    So even though the price of oil has increased 6 fold, gas had only increase a little less than 3 fold. So we should be lucky we're not paying 6 bucks a gallon already.

    The problem is as long as speculators keep driving the price up per barrel, the price of gas at the pump is not going to fall anytime soon.

    Please do not try to inject logic into this argument.. ;)
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  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021

    And I don't see why people in the US complain so much about gas prices. You do realize that you pay some of the lowest gas prices in the industrialized world. A lot of places in Canada have prices that are approaching $5 a gallon.

    We pay for our own health insurance. If our govt provided free health insurance, that would be about $800 per month that we would have available to pay the fucking gas/oil prices with.

    I dont see why you dont complain. WTF? Apparently you have no problem touching your toes while big oil sneaks up behind you.

    Its way to fucking expensive. This shit is ridiculous. Come December / Januray, filling my home oil tank will cost almost as much as my mortgage. Filling my car with gas will cost almost as much as my insurance premium. It may actually cost more than my monthly insurance premium.

    Drill in Alaska. Fuck it.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    Please do not try to inject logic into this argument.. ;)

    Lol, I won't. I also won't mention how the average price for a barrel of oil last year was $67.20 and now the price per barrel is double that. ;)
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    We pay for our own health insurance. If our govt provided free health insurance, that would be about $800 per month that we would have available to pay the fucking gas/oil prices with.

    I am aware that our gas taxes pay for things that other countries don't have the luxery of having. But at the same time Canada is a net oil exporter producing more oil than we can use.
    I dont see why you dont complain. WTF? Apparently you have no problem touching your toes while big oil sneaks up behind you.

    Its way to fucking expensive. This shit is ridiculous. Come December / Januray, filling my home oil tank will cost almost as much as my mortgage. Filling my car with gas will cost almost as much as my insurance premium. It may actually cost more than my monthly insurance premium.

    So if your house is too expensive, buy a smaller, cheaper to heat house. I am pretty sure exxon didn't tell you what house to buy. If it is too expensive to drive to work, move closer. You can take some of the reponsibility for the amount of fuel you use. To act like you can't is like buying a private jet and then complain about the price of jet fuel.
  • Solat13 wrote:
    The average price per barrel of oil for 2002 was about $23 bucks and I paid a about about $1.45 per gallon of gas.

    In 2008, the price is $135 a barrel of oil and I'm paying $3.75 for a gallon of gas.

    So even though the price of oil has increased 6 fold, gas had only increase a little less than 3 fold. So we should be lucky we're not paying 6 bucks a gallon already.

    The problem is as long as speculators keep driving the price up per barrel, the price of gas at the pump is not going to fall anytime soon.


    Lots (thousands) of other use for oil to rip people off on. Gas keeps people moving back and forth slaving away. You can't upset that balance too much, in the sense you can only squeeze the life out of people so hard before it kills them.

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  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    I am aware that our gas taxes pay for things that other countries don't have the luxery of having. But at the same time Canada is a net oil exporter producing more oil than we can use.



    So if your house is too expensive, buy a smaller, cheaper to heat house. I am pretty sure exxon didn't tell you what house to buy. If it is too expensive to drive to work, move closer. You can take some of the reponsibility for the amount of fuel you use. To act like you can't is like buying a private jet and then complain about the price of jet fuel.

    Why so angry, smug and obnoxiouis towards someone and their situation you know nothing about?

    If you dont agree that gas/oil is very expensive, good to be you. I would bet that 90% of Americans will have a difficult time heating their homes this coming winter, and some people will have to make very diffucult dicisions about how to pay for daily necessities. There really is nothing that most can do other than grin and bear it.

    You say if my house is too expesive, buy smaller? You have no idea what size house I have so dont make assumptions. I live a very, very modest lifestyle. Thats all you need to know about that. I dont give a fuck if I lived in a shed, the price of oil is still insane.

    If my drive to work is too expensive, move closer? Oh ok. Thanks for the heads up. Thats what I will do then. I havent thought about this before, weighed all my options, and came to a decision. Ill just sell my house, buy a new one, and move closer. Are you 10 years old?

    I do take responsibility for the amount of fuel I use. I bought thermostats with timers, I keep the house cool, wear sweaters and shit in the winter, only drive when necessary, etc. So, basically, buzz off without knowing the facts.

    That was heavily edited so I dont get banned from here.

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  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    With these absurd prices I find it difficult to believe this country is going to find its way out of the recesion in the near future. I mean if they were lower more people would be traveling and spending money.
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  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    Oxxys wrote:
    With these absurd prices I find it difficult to believe this country is going to find its way out of the recesion in the near future. I mean if they were lower more people would be traveling and spending money.
    Very true. Things will get MUCH worse before they get better.

    Just think about this for one minute.

    Oil/Gas is now 4 bucks a gallon. A year ago is was around 2.

    The average family is now spending an additional $350 every month or two in the winter to heat their house. If you fill your car once a month, you are now probably spending an additional $120 per month. I consider these numbers conservative, and only considering one car. Average that out over the year, and its an approx $3000 bucks per year spent on fuel that you didnt spend before. Not sure how many families in America, but if I were to assume using 303 million americans and dividing by 3, 100 million families, thats 300 BILLION dollars sucked out of the economy, and its going to get worse.

    That combined with incomes are not rising equals shit hitting the fan real soon.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    I drive 103 miles round trip everyday to work. I live in a small town in central Illinois and drive to Springfield, IL, so there's no mass transit or public transportation to take advantage of really. I however, have decided to change my work hours a bit so that I could take a $10 round trip Amtrak ride up to work and back. $50 in train tickets is so much better than $100+ a week in fuel cost and wear and tear on my car.

    Granted, it is about a mile walk from the train station to my office twice a day---but I really don't think I can afford to keep spending this much money on fuel.
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    At the other end of the spectrum, we buy fuel on "futures". Discuss.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    If you want some of that cash, why not just buy some shares of Exxon Mobile? To a degree I can't really fault the oil companies for making a bunch of money. I mean they never told people to live an hour away from from their job so that they can have the 5 bedroom house. They are not the ones who told millions of people to buy giant gas guzzlers that they don't really need. Maybe people should take a bit more responsibility for the amount of money they are spending on fuel.
    I agree to a point, like we probably don't need the big gas guzzling SUV, but some of because of affordable housing have to drive 30 minutes to work.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    We pay for our own health insurance. If our govt provided free health insurance, that would be about $800 per month that we would have available to pay the fucking gas/oil prices with.

    I dont see why you dont complain. WTF? Apparently you have no problem touching your toes while big oil sneaks up behind you.

    Its way to fucking expensive. This shit is ridiculous. Come December / Januray, filling my home oil tank will cost almost as much as my mortgage. Filling my car with gas will cost almost as much as my insurance premium. It may actually cost more than my monthly insurance premium.

    Drill in Alaska. Fuck it.
    I'm in Canada and I fucking complain, I travel 30 minutes to work by car, these prices are crazy.
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  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I'm in Canada and I fucking complain, I travel 30 minutes to work by car, these prices are crazy.
    Move closer to work then you idiot! WTF? Are you stupid or something. Stop driving your Hummer to work 60 miles round trip with the AC on and windows down with flat tires. Go buy a small house in the area you work and get a fucking bike. Its really that easy. Are you stupid or something.

    :)

    I hear ya man. it just sucks. and, the worst part it that it will cost money to save money in this situation (switching heating type, buying hybrid car, residing and insulating your house, etc) and if you dont have the money to make these changes today, you're fucked.
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