A question for the 9/11 conspiracy movement

spiral out

my2hands wrote:

i thought i was being clear?

if a passenger plane did not hit the pentagon, what happened to the passengers that were szupposed to be on that plane, and what happened to the plane that actually took off from DC?

Did you read the operation northwoods document for a possible explanation of how it could happen?

my2hands

spiral out wrote:

Did you read the operation northwoods document for a possible explanation of how it could happen?

yes, but i don't recall how they planned to "disappear" hundreds of people, or "create" hundreds of fake victims complete with mourning family and friends?

JamMastaE

my2hands wrote:

if this was an inside job... then what happened to the civilian passengers?

1. most 9/11 conspiracy's conclude that no commercial plane hit the pentagon or crashed in PA.... so what happened to the people that were supposed to be on those planes?

and if remote controlled planed were used, how could they possible keep quiet the people that put this technology onto the planes?

i am not saying what i think one way or the other... but i do know that this question is the 1000 pound gorilla in the room that never gets asked

if it was a conspiracy, they are doing one hell of a job keeping people quiet... we are talking about one of the greatest man made disasters in recent history. it is hard to imagine things not leaking

it's not about answering the limited amount of questions for which no one really knows the answer.no one is arguing there are a lot of mysterious things about that day we may never know.it's about sticking to the hundreds of things we DO know and CAN prove.

i was wondering,tell me who do you think blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma?

my2hands

JamMastaE wrote:

it's not about answering the limited amount of questions for which no one really knows the answer.no one is arguing there are a lot of mysterious things about that day we may never know.it's about sticking to the hundreds of things we DO know and CAN prove.

OK, i can prove there was hundreds of victims on those planes with mourning friends and family to back it up... that is fact, as far as i can tell?

i was wondering,tell me who do you think blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma?

timothy mcveigh (sp?)... besides that is a separate issue. i am trying to get these questions answered before the thread gets hijacked.

no changing the issue allowed in this one folks

JamMastaE

my2hands wrote:

Timothy mcveigh (sp?)

WRONG!!

this was also a Gov.Op.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Sipn9npq4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7YCCduzahw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOBIUGBTB9w

spiral out

my2hands wrote:

yes, but i don't recall how they planned to "disappear" hundreds of people, or "create" hundreds of fake victims complete with mourning family and friends?

Well i was saying that northwoods as far as i can see can create a few fake victims.

Could the victims not have all been killed? I mean it is a possibility it's not like they recovered any bodeis was it.

my2hands

JamMastaE wrote:

WRONG!!

this was also a Gov.Op.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Sipn9npq4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7YCCduzahw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOBIUGBTB9w

i am trying to keep this thread focused on the question i asked...

this is one of the main problems of this 9/11 truth movement... whenever a question is posed that is legit and difficult to answer people start switching to another topic or theory that they feel helps give credit to their theory.

JamMastaE

my2hands wrote:

i am trying to keep this thread focused on the question i asked...

this is one of the main problems of this 9/11 truth movement... whenever a question is posed that is legit and difficult to answer people start switching to another topic or theory that they feel helps give credit to their theory.

i told you already,there isn't an answer for everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but there is enough things that DO have an answer to know it was an inside job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you understand?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/138630-History+Channel+tries+to+pass+off+ytmnd+joke+site+%22Jews+Did+WTC%22+as+real+9-11+truth+site!

my2hands

JamMastaE wrote:

i told you already,there isn't an answer for everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but there is enough things that DO have an answer to know it was an inside job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you understand?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/138630-History+Channel+tries+to+pass+off+ytmnd+joke+site+%22Jews+Did+WTC%22+as+real+9-11+truth+site!

no, i dont understand. if one very important thing cant be answered, then the whole damn thing falls apart IMO.

the question that remains that shreds 9/11 conspiracies is the victims of DC and PA. if no plane hit the pentagon, then what happened to the "victims" that actually boarded the flight that morning. and if a missile hit the pentagon, do you really think they could hide that. someone has to launch it from somewhere?

my2hands

after all the 9/11 theads... after all the conpiracy speculation... and all the people claiming for fact it was an inside job

i figured i could get 1 good answer from this crowd?

jeffbr

my2hands wrote:

after all the 9/11 theads... after all the conpiracy speculation... and all the people claiming for fact it was an inside job

i figured i could get 1 good answer from this crowd?

Great thread. It has been enlightening. I don't trust the government and am generally anti-government, but I haven't seen anything credible that would lead me to believe it was an inside job.

spiral out

jeffbr wrote:

Great thread. It has been enlightening. I don't trust the government and am generally anti-government, but I haven't seen anything credible that would lead me to believe it was an inside job.

What do you want? a definte answer? there isn't one.

The offical story just doesn't add up hence why people don't believe it so easily.

jeffbr

spiral out wrote:

What do you want? a definte answer? there isn't one.

The offical story just doesn't add up hence why people don't believe it so easily.

The wild tales of conspiracies and secret shadow agencies, and missing people, and covert demolition crews don't add up either, hence why people don't believe it so easily.

I realize there are no definitive answers, so I have to default to common sense and Occam's razor.

Drowned Out

my2hands wrote:

if this was an inside job... then what happened to the civilian passengers?

1. most 9/11 conspiracy's conclude that no commercial plane hit the pentagon or crashed in PA.... so what happened to the people that were supposed to be on those planes?

and if remote controlled planed were used, how could they possible keep quiet the people that put this technology onto the planes?

i am not saying what i think one way or the other... but i do know that this question is the 1000 pound gorilla in the room that never gets asked

if it was a conspiracy, they are doing one hell of a job keeping people quiet... we are talking about one of the greatest man made disasters in recent history. it is hard to imagine things not leaking

k, I'll bite...I don't even believe this myself, tho I don't think it's impossible...
But a story ran the morning of 9/11 that flight 93 was actually grounded that morning (Cleveland airport?) because of a bomb threat, and taken to a remote hangar to be inspected.

I read about this not long after 9/11. When I read the story, it had already been withdrawn and deleted by the source news agency that ran it. When I saw it, it was on a web archive page.....that archive page was deleted shortly after I read it. I've searched several times for this story since and can't find a single word about it.

I read somewhere as well, that some of the people from Global Hawk, the company that developed the remote control technology were actually on that plane...

just throwin that out there....something I read, and can't even find again in all the 9/11 BS you find in a google search.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I think people are extremely naive naive if they don't think it's possible to setup in advance some lunatics who want to jihad themselves against America, and look the other way on purpose while it all happens.

How is that a stretch of the imagination? In fact a lot of evidence points to that very thing happening.

Regardless of the all the building theories.

Abuskedti

my2hands wrote:

to the people that think 9/11 was an inside job... what happened to the people on the planes?

they died! that doesn't rule out if the con was to allow the planes to be stolen.

loogs

if you believe the "official story, than you believe the pancake effect was the reason the towers fell, what I still find odd is this, there is no disputing the fact that all of the concrete in the builings was reduced to dust, we all saw it, lower manhattan was under a foot of it, there was no concrete slabs stacked up at ground zero, one hundred floors, with each floor having almost 2 feet of concrete, logic would dictate that there should of been some slabs at the base. more importantly, riddle me this, seeing as how there was no pile of concrete, would it stand to reason that as each floor fell on to the next they pulverized each other to dust ,if this is true , there is a problem, if floor #99 drops due to fire and collides with floor #98,pulverizing each other to dust, than were is the mass to then collapse floor # 97?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

loogs wrote:

if you believe the "official story, than you believe the pancake effect was the reason the towers fell, what I still find odd is this, there is no disputing the fact that all of the concrete in the builings was reduced to dust, we all saw it, lower manhattan was under a foot of it, there was no concrete slabs stacked up at ground zero, one hundred floors, with each floor having almost 2 feet of concrete, logic would dictate that there should of been some slabs at the base. more importantly, riddle me this, seeing as how there was no pile of concrete, would it stand to reason that as each floor fell on to the next they pulverized each other to dust ,if this is true , there is a problem, if floor #99 drops due to fire and collides with floor #98,pulverizing each other to dust, than were is the mass to then collapse floor # 97?

yeap...my thoughts exactly, but hang tight...someone will be along soon to try and explain it away, and then tell you how crazy you are for imagining it.

jeffbr

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

yeap...my thoughts exactly, but hang tight...someone will be along soon to try and explain it away, and then tell you how crazy you are for imagining it.

Why would you think it would collapse from the top down? Why would the floors above pulverize before crushing the floors below? You're crazy for imagining it.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Ahnimus wrote:

Also, with the reports of their being huge weapon caches in the towers, to account for the spike in tritium in the air; I'm surprised there weren't a bunch of automatic weapons laying around ground zero.

9/11 was an enigma, wrapped in a riddle on a sesame seed bun of mystery. To steal a line from Colbert.

Never would I have thought that automatic weapons, steel frames and all the other objects of dense material would vaporize, yet a terrorist passport and a pager make it out intact.

The whole thing is a mystery, but I don't think 98% of the conspiracy theories are true.

There was an increase in Tritium? I never heard much about that for some reason....hmm.

Way too many odd things happened that day. I dare say quacks like a duck.

I just want to know what kind of crushing force vaporizes office furniture into dust? You need extremely high velocity to achieve that amount of molecular disturbance....in the range of hundreds of miles per hour.

I think maybe this is why very little of the wreckage was properly examined.