...doubt they'll answer. or if they do, it'll be some elaborate plan that somehow the gov't and participating/witnessing citizens have been able and willing to keep 100% secret.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Pretty amazing how the planes vaporized but they found perfect condition terrorist and passenger passports in the various planes.
Passports are bomb and fireproof apparently, and much more than aluminum (which vaporized on impact).
They should probably start making troop uniforms out of this magic paper.
The documentary I watched on anti-semitism had some stuff about 9/11. Apparently the bones found atop a building near-by belonged to a Jewish man. The coroner was interviewed in the documentary and he mentioned a burnt piece of clothing with charred flesh, and attached was a pager that was still in working condition. Strange indeed.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Also, with the reports of their being huge weapon caches in the towers, to account for the spike in tritium in the air; I'm surprised there weren't a bunch of automatic weapons laying around ground zero.
9/11 was an enigma, wrapped in a riddle on a sesame seed bun of mystery. To steal a line from Colbert.
Never would I have thought that automatic weapons, steel frames and all the other objects of dense material would vaporize, yet a terrorist passport and a pager make it out intact.
The whole thing is a mystery, but I don't think 98% of the conspiracy theories are true.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Also, with the reports of their being huge weapon caches in the towers, to account for the spike in tritium in the air; I'm surprised there weren't a bunch of automatic weapons laying around ground zero.
9/11 was an enigma, wrapped in a riddle on a sesame seed bun of mystery. To steal a line from Colbert.
Never would I have thought that automatic weapons, steel frames and all the other objects of dense material would vaporize, yet a terrorist passport and a pager make it out intact.
The whole thing is a mystery, but I don't think 98% of the conspiracy theories are true.
Hashing out the semantics aren't as important as looking at the big picture reality.
Some people choose to focus on the details of one thing and make up their minds there. In this situation you need a very broad understanding of world matters to see what's happening.
The minor details become useless if the plan suddenly changes mid-stream to virtually make them true. Even though that's not the case here...but you know. People argue to their deaths. I let new facts speak for themselves and line it all up to figure out what really happened, and to tell me what is happening.
People are going to have to look around and figure it out for themselves. They will either know in advance or just follow history along in the mainstream news as they're told about it after the fact.
9/11 was predicted. The London 7/7 attack was predicted. Scooter Libby's indictment was predicted. There's more... People are beginning to become privy to the schedule.
Terrorism is not the issue, it's a means to get the job done.
I agree on getting the job done, just not at the cost of being a slave to oppression with zero democracy and personal rights in a war mongering new NAU order.
When they say "us or them" It's not us against terrorists. It's north America against China and Russia...or Eurasia. West v.s. East for control of world superpowers.
Iran is going to be the pivot point or springboard towards the end game i.e. nuclear war. Many will die...it could be the end for many actually. Finally the zero hour. Wer'e at 5 mins to midnight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock remember this? It advanced another 2 minutes in Jan 2007. It's more like 3 minutes to midnight really.
Endless wars right now is not a good idea. It's incredibly stupid actually
Remember that talk about the nuclear shield in around Europe? http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/15/news/shield.php This is to protect the West from the East. Putin staking new oil claims that is putting Canada (now) and the US in potential conflict against Russia?
The NAU to join all of North America into a singular fighting force. read up about it. I'm not making this up. Raising the draft age to 42. Talks of reinstating the draft. Imagine a North America wide draft?
These all aren't mere coincidences just coming out of thin air.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Let me ask you something; In the PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" the plan, in-order, includes Afghanistan, toppling Saddam, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, etc...
Clearly this order "Afganistan, Saddam, Hezbollah" was followed quite strictly, however, Hezbollah was not toppled and continues strong today while the U.S. ramps up to Iran. Do you think this is a sign of failure or part of the plan, and do you think Syria will be next?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
To verbalize some thoughts on the matter - because I did a lot of reading on secret elite societies, illuminati and in-depth reading of all the conspiracy theories. I'm not gonna support any one theory, but I find it much more likely that a small group of men/women in different positions of influence have the same goals fueled by capitalist greed, than I find anything like Illuminati or Zionists probable.
Assuming that some global conspiracy is occuring, and not just a few people with wishful thinking, shouldn't we blame our system? If generation upon generation brings us those who are greedy enough to exploit our economies and governments. Then clearly it's a product of human nature, and it's the economies and governments that need to be revamped, since we cannot change human nature.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Let me ask you something; In the PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" the plan, in-order, includes Afghanistan, toppling Saddam, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, etc...
Clearly this order "Afganistan, Saddam, Hezbollah" was followed quite strictly, however, Hezbollah was not toppled and continues strong today while the U.S. ramps up to Iran. Do you think this is a sign of failure or part of the plan, and do you think Syria will be next?
There are mossad agents playing both sides in Lebanon West bank gaza etc keeping the war fresh and alive....giving it cause. First they pick a target. Kill (snipe, blow up...etc) the guys family to make him hopeless and demented then recruit him in the name of "terrorism" against the US, or Israel, to commit terrorist acts. So someone can retaliate, and put it in the news.
Hey...they do mini false flag secret ops like this all the time. It's pretty easy to play the other side and pull stuff off when you're wearing a ski mask. There's proof of this going on. As long as the war on terrorism is fresh...the engine is running.
The entire middle east is next. There's all kinds of targets according to PNAC...hundreds of places apparently. The statement your enemy's enemy is your friend really holds true.
It's pretty insane to think about, but it's happening. Politics is best spoken from the barrel of a gun. Bush said it himself...he's a war president.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
To verbalize some thoughts on the matter - because I did a lot of reading on secret elite societies, illuminati and in-depth reading of all the conspiracy theories. I'm not gonna support any one theory, but I find it much more likely that a small group of men/women in different positions of influence have the same goals fueled by capitalist greed, than I find anything like Illuminati or Zionists probable.
Assuming that some global conspiracy is occuring, and not just a few people with wishful thinking, shouldn't we blame our system? If generation upon generation brings us those who are greedy enough to exploit our economies and governments. Then clearly it's a product of human nature, and it's the economies and governments that need to be revamped, since we cannot change human nature.
It's not really conspiracy that drives the movement. It's more harsh reality. Live fast...die young. The west is the James dean of the world. There's a consequence and geographical limitations to overcome. Especially in America. Oil being a huge one. They need to maintain...and the maintenance costs are high. For some reason the mentality is still to take it by force.
There is going to be dire consequences either way. The west isn't sitting on the oil yet we live like we do, and could care less how we get it to the pumps.
With the NAU cheap Mexican labor replaces China's cheap labor.
But it's about more than that. When they say Prosperity Partnership they mean at all costs.
It should be SPPP Security PEACE and Prosperity Partnership...they left out a P.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
if a passenger plane did not hit the pentagon, what happened to the passengers that were szupposed to be on that plane, and what happened to the plane that actually took off from DC?
if a passenger plane did not hit the pentagon, what happened to the passengers that were szupposed to be on that plane, and what happened to the plane that actually took off from DC?
Did you read the operation northwoods document for a possible explanation of how it could happen?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Did you read the operation northwoods document for a possible explanation of how it could happen?
yes, but i don't recall how they planned to "disappear" hundreds of people, or "create" hundreds of fake victims complete with mourning family and friends?
if this was an inside job... then what happened to the civilian passengers?
1. most 9/11 conspiracy's conclude that no commercial plane hit the pentagon or crashed in PA.... so what happened to the people that were supposed to be on those planes?
and if remote controlled planed were used, how could they possible keep quiet the people that put this technology onto the planes?
i am not saying what i think one way or the other... but i do know that this question is the 1000 pound gorilla in the room that never gets asked
if it was a conspiracy, they are doing one hell of a job keeping people quiet... we are talking about one of the greatest man made disasters in recent history. it is hard to imagine things not leaking
it's not about answering the limited amount of questions for which no one really knows the answer.no one is arguing there are a lot of mysterious things about that day we may never know.it's about sticking to the hundreds of things we DO know and CAN prove.
i was wondering,tell me who do you think blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma?
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
it's not about answering the limited amount of questions for which no one really knows the answer.no one is arguing there are a lot of mysterious things about that day we may never know.it's about sticking to the hundreds of things we DO know and CAN prove.
OK, i can prove there was hundreds of victims on those planes with mourning friends and family to back it up... that is fact, as far as i can tell?
i was wondering,tell me who do you think blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma?
timothy mcveigh (sp?)... besides that is a separate issue. i am trying to get these questions answered before the thread gets hijacked.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
yes, but i don't recall how they planned to "disappear" hundreds of people, or "create" hundreds of fake victims complete with mourning family and friends?
Well i was saying that northwoods as far as i can see can create a few fake victims.
Could the victims not have all been killed? I mean it is a possibility it's not like they recovered any bodeis was it.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
i am trying to keep this thread focused on the question i asked...
this is one of the main problems of this 9/11 truth movement... whenever a question is posed that is legit and difficult to answer people start switching to another topic or theory that they feel helps give credit to their theory.
i am trying to keep this thread focused on the question i asked...
this is one of the main problems of this 9/11 truth movement... whenever a question is posed that is legit and difficult to answer people start switching to another topic or theory that they feel helps give credit to their theory.
i told you already,there isn't an answer for everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but there is enough things that DO have an answer to know it was an inside job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you understand?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
i told you already,there isn't an answer for everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but there is enough things that DO have an answer to know it was an inside job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you understand?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no, i dont understand. if one very important thing cant be answered, then the whole damn thing falls apart IMO.
the question that remains that shreds 9/11 conspiracies is the victims of DC and PA. if no plane hit the pentagon, then what happened to the "victims" that actually boarded the flight that morning. and if a missile hit the pentagon, do you really think they could hide that. someone has to launch it from somewhere?
after all the 9/11 theads... after all the conpiracy speculation... and all the people claiming for fact it was an inside job
i figured i could get 1 good answer from this crowd?
Great thread. It has been enlightening. I don't trust the government and am generally anti-government, but I haven't seen anything credible that would lead me to believe it was an inside job.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Great thread. It has been enlightening. I don't trust the government and am generally anti-government, but I haven't seen anything credible that would lead me to believe it was an inside job.
What do you want? a definte answer? there isn't one.
The offical story just doesn't add up hence why people don't believe it so easily.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
What do you want? a definte answer? there isn't one.
The offical story just doesn't add up hence why people don't believe it so easily.
The wild tales of conspiracies and secret shadow agencies, and missing people, and covert demolition crews don't add up either, hence why people don't believe it so easily.
I realize there are no definitive answers, so I have to default to common sense and Occam's razor.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
if this was an inside job... then what happened to the civilian passengers?
1. most 9/11 conspiracy's conclude that no commercial plane hit the pentagon or crashed in PA.... so what happened to the people that were supposed to be on those planes?
and if remote controlled planed were used, how could they possible keep quiet the people that put this technology onto the planes?
i am not saying what i think one way or the other... but i do know that this question is the 1000 pound gorilla in the room that never gets asked
if it was a conspiracy, they are doing one hell of a job keeping people quiet... we are talking about one of the greatest man made disasters in recent history. it is hard to imagine things not leaking
k, I'll bite...I don't even believe this myself, tho I don't think it's impossible...
But a story ran the morning of 9/11 that flight 93 was actually grounded that morning (Cleveland airport?) because of a bomb threat, and taken to a remote hangar to be inspected.
I read about this not long after 9/11. When I read the story, it had already been withdrawn and deleted by the source news agency that ran it. When I saw it, it was on a web archive page.....that archive page was deleted shortly after I read it. I've searched several times for this story since and can't find a single word about it.
I read somewhere as well, that some of the people from Global Hawk, the company that developed the remote control technology were actually on that plane...
just throwin that out there....something I read, and can't even find again in all the 9/11 BS you find in a google search.
I think people are extremely naive naive if they don't think it's possible to setup in advance some lunatics who want to jihad themselves against America, and look the other way on purpose while it all happens.
How is that a stretch of the imagination? In fact a lot of evidence points to that very thing happening.
Regardless of the all the building theories.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
if you believe the "official story, than you believe the pancake effect was the reason the towers fell, what I still find odd is this, there is no disputing the fact that all of the concrete in the builings was reduced to dust, we all saw it, lower manhattan was under a foot of it, there was no concrete slabs stacked up at ground zero, one hundred floors, with each floor having almost 2 feet of concrete, logic would dictate that there should of been some slabs at the base. more importantly, riddle me this, seeing as how there was no pile of concrete, would it stand to reason that as each floor fell on to the next they pulverized each other to dust ,if this is true , there is a problem, if floor #99 drops due to fire and collides with floor #98,pulverizing each other to dust, than were is the mass to then collapse floor # 97?
if you believe the "official story, than you believe the pancake effect was the reason the towers fell, what I still find odd is this, there is no disputing the fact that all of the concrete in the builings was reduced to dust, we all saw it, lower manhattan was under a foot of it, there was no concrete slabs stacked up at ground zero, one hundred floors, with each floor having almost 2 feet of concrete, logic would dictate that there should of been some slabs at the base. more importantly, riddle me this, seeing as how there was no pile of concrete, would it stand to reason that as each floor fell on to the next they pulverized each other to dust ,if this is true , there is a problem, if floor #99 drops due to fire and collides with floor #98,pulverizing each other to dust, than were is the mass to then collapse floor # 97?
yeap...my thoughts exactly, but hang tight...someone will be along soon to try and explain it away, and then tell you how crazy you are for imagining it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
yeap...my thoughts exactly, but hang tight...someone will be along soon to try and explain it away, and then tell you how crazy you are for imagining it.
Why would you think it would collapse from the top down? Why would the floors above pulverize before crushing the floors below? You're crazy for imagining it.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Also, with the reports of their being huge weapon caches in the towers, to account for the spike in tritium in the air; I'm surprised there weren't a bunch of automatic weapons laying around ground zero.
9/11 was an enigma, wrapped in a riddle on a sesame seed bun of mystery. To steal a line from Colbert.
Never would I have thought that automatic weapons, steel frames and all the other objects of dense material would vaporize, yet a terrorist passport and a pager make it out intact.
The whole thing is a mystery, but I don't think 98% of the conspiracy theories are true.
There was an increase in Tritium? I never heard much about that for some reason....hmm.
Way too many odd things happened that day. I dare say quacks like a duck.
I just want to know what kind of crushing force vaporizes office furniture into dust? You need extremely high velocity to achieve that amount of molecular disturbance....in the range of hundreds of miles per hour.
I think maybe this is why very little of the wreckage was properly examined.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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thank you! good link to youtube footage.
I'm just glad some people on this board, including you, are using sound logic.
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The documentary I watched on anti-semitism had some stuff about 9/11. Apparently the bones found atop a building near-by belonged to a Jewish man. The coroner was interviewed in the documentary and he mentioned a burnt piece of clothing with charred flesh, and attached was a pager that was still in working condition. Strange indeed.
9/11 was an enigma, wrapped in a riddle on a sesame seed bun of mystery. To steal a line from Colbert.
Never would I have thought that automatic weapons, steel frames and all the other objects of dense material would vaporize, yet a terrorist passport and a pager make it out intact.
The whole thing is a mystery, but I don't think 98% of the conspiracy theories are true.
Hashing out the semantics aren't as important as looking at the big picture reality.
Some people choose to focus on the details of one thing and make up their minds there. In this situation you need a very broad understanding of world matters to see what's happening.
The minor details become useless if the plan suddenly changes mid-stream to virtually make them true. Even though that's not the case here...but you know. People argue to their deaths. I let new facts speak for themselves and line it all up to figure out what really happened, and to tell me what is happening.
People are going to have to look around and figure it out for themselves. They will either know in advance or just follow history along in the mainstream news as they're told about it after the fact.
9/11 was predicted. The London 7/7 attack was predicted. Scooter Libby's indictment was predicted. There's more... People are beginning to become privy to the schedule.
Terrorism is not the issue, it's a means to get the job done.
I agree on getting the job done, just not at the cost of being a slave to oppression with zero democracy and personal rights in a war mongering new NAU order.
When they say "us or them" It's not us against terrorists. It's north America against China and Russia...or Eurasia. West v.s. East for control of world superpowers.
Iran is going to be the pivot point or springboard towards the end game i.e. nuclear war. Many will die...it could be the end for many actually. Finally the zero hour. Wer'e at 5 mins to midnight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock remember this? It advanced another 2 minutes in Jan 2007. It's more like 3 minutes to midnight really.
Endless wars right now is not a good idea. It's incredibly stupid actually
Remember that talk about the nuclear shield in around Europe? http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/15/news/shield.php This is to protect the West from the East. Putin staking new oil claims that is putting Canada (now) and the US in potential conflict against Russia?
The NAU to join all of North America into a singular fighting force. read up about it. I'm not making this up. Raising the draft age to 42. Talks of reinstating the draft. Imagine a North America wide draft?
These all aren't mere coincidences just coming out of thin air.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Let me ask you something; In the PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" the plan, in-order, includes Afghanistan, toppling Saddam, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, etc...
Clearly this order "Afganistan, Saddam, Hezbollah" was followed quite strictly, however, Hezbollah was not toppled and continues strong today while the U.S. ramps up to Iran. Do you think this is a sign of failure or part of the plan, and do you think Syria will be next?
Assuming that some global conspiracy is occuring, and not just a few people with wishful thinking, shouldn't we blame our system? If generation upon generation brings us those who are greedy enough to exploit our economies and governments. Then clearly it's a product of human nature, and it's the economies and governments that need to be revamped, since we cannot change human nature.
There are mossad agents playing both sides in Lebanon West bank gaza etc keeping the war fresh and alive....giving it cause. First they pick a target. Kill (snipe, blow up...etc) the guys family to make him hopeless and demented then recruit him in the name of "terrorism" against the US, or Israel, to commit terrorist acts. So someone can retaliate, and put it in the news.
Hey...they do mini false flag secret ops like this all the time. It's pretty easy to play the other side and pull stuff off when you're wearing a ski mask. There's proof of this going on. As long as the war on terrorism is fresh...the engine is running.
The entire middle east is next. There's all kinds of targets according to PNAC...hundreds of places apparently. The statement your enemy's enemy is your friend really holds true.
It's pretty insane to think about, but it's happening. Politics is best spoken from the barrel of a gun. Bush said it himself...he's a war president.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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It's not really conspiracy that drives the movement. It's more harsh reality. Live fast...die young. The west is the James dean of the world. There's a consequence and geographical limitations to overcome. Especially in America. Oil being a huge one. They need to maintain...and the maintenance costs are high. For some reason the mentality is still to take it by force.
There is going to be dire consequences either way. The west isn't sitting on the oil yet we live like we do, and could care less how we get it to the pumps.
With the NAU cheap Mexican labor replaces China's cheap labor.
But it's about more than that. When they say Prosperity Partnership they mean at all costs.
It should be SPPP Security PEACE and Prosperity Partnership...they left out a P.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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if a passenger plane did not hit the pentagon, what happened to the passengers that were szupposed to be on that plane, and what happened to the plane that actually took off from DC?
Did you read the operation northwoods document for a possible explanation of how it could happen?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
yes, but i don't recall how they planned to "disappear" hundreds of people, or "create" hundreds of fake victims complete with mourning family and friends?
it's not about answering the limited amount of questions for which no one really knows the answer.no one is arguing there are a lot of mysterious things about that day we may never know.it's about sticking to the hundreds of things we DO know and CAN prove.
i was wondering,tell me who do you think blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma?
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
timothy mcveigh (sp?)... besides that is a separate issue. i am trying to get these questions answered before the thread gets hijacked.
no changing the issue allowed in this one folks
WRONG!!
this was also a Gov.Op.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Sipn9npq4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7YCCduzahw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOBIUGBTB9w
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
Well i was saying that northwoods as far as i can see can create a few fake victims.
Could the victims not have all been killed? I mean it is a possibility it's not like they recovered any bodeis was it.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
i am trying to keep this thread focused on the question i asked...
this is one of the main problems of this 9/11 truth movement... whenever a question is posed that is legit and difficult to answer people start switching to another topic or theory that they feel helps give credit to their theory.
i told you already,there isn't an answer for everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but there is enough things that DO have an answer to know it was an inside job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you understand?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
no, i dont understand. if one very important thing cant be answered, then the whole damn thing falls apart IMO.
the question that remains that shreds 9/11 conspiracies is the victims of DC and PA. if no plane hit the pentagon, then what happened to the "victims" that actually boarded the flight that morning. and if a missile hit the pentagon, do you really think they could hide that. someone has to launch it from somewhere?
i figured i could get 1 good answer from this crowd?
Great thread. It has been enlightening. I don't trust the government and am generally anti-government, but I haven't seen anything credible that would lead me to believe it was an inside job.
What do you want? a definte answer? there isn't one.
The offical story just doesn't add up hence why people don't believe it so easily.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
The wild tales of conspiracies and secret shadow agencies, and missing people, and covert demolition crews don't add up either, hence why people don't believe it so easily.
I realize there are no definitive answers, so I have to default to common sense and Occam's razor.
k, I'll bite...I don't even believe this myself, tho I don't think it's impossible...
But a story ran the morning of 9/11 that flight 93 was actually grounded that morning (Cleveland airport?) because of a bomb threat, and taken to a remote hangar to be inspected.
I read about this not long after 9/11. When I read the story, it had already been withdrawn and deleted by the source news agency that ran it. When I saw it, it was on a web archive page.....that archive page was deleted shortly after I read it. I've searched several times for this story since and can't find a single word about it.
I read somewhere as well, that some of the people from Global Hawk, the company that developed the remote control technology were actually on that plane...
just throwin that out there....something I read, and can't even find again in all the 9/11 BS you find in a google search.
How is that a stretch of the imagination? In fact a lot of evidence points to that very thing happening.
Regardless of the all the building theories.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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they died! that doesn't rule out if the con was to allow the planes to be stolen.
yeap...my thoughts exactly, but hang tight...someone will be along soon to try and explain it away, and then tell you how crazy you are for imagining it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Why would you think it would collapse from the top down? Why would the floors above pulverize before crushing the floors below? You're crazy for imagining it.
There was an increase in Tritium? I never heard much about that for some reason....hmm.
Way too many odd things happened that day. I dare say quacks like a duck.
I just want to know what kind of crushing force vaporizes office furniture into dust? You need extremely high velocity to achieve that amount of molecular disturbance....in the range of hundreds of miles per hour.
I think maybe this is why very little of the wreckage was properly examined.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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