I don't call 2 efforts enough to call yourself trying to end the war especially when you turn right around and vote to fund it every time. It appears to be nothing more than show if that's all you can bring yourself to do. I have already stated the other options they could have taken that congressmen like Kucinich and Paul have supported. So there is no 'spin' here. Spin would mean we're covering something up or lying...and we are not. We simply disagree that the Dems have done all they could to stop this war. Voting to find it war ain't going to stop it...no matter how you spin it
Spin like - 'they voted for it, but they didn't really mean it'.
They have had the majority for 1 year, and these bills don't pop up that often. They aren't voting to fund monthly or anything like that. They did try to pass a short term bill to fund for a short period of time so they could work out some sort of agreement, but it was shot down.
Twice in the 1 year was the most possible times they could have done it.
Spin like - 'they voted for it, but they didn't really mean it'.
They have had the majority for 1 year, and these bills don't pop up that often. They aren't voting to fund monthly or anything like that. They did try to pass a short term bill to fund for a short period of time so they could work out some sort of agreement, but it was shot down.
Twice in the 1 year was the most possible times they could have done it.
How much could they have meant it if they turned around and voted to fund it? Kucinich meant it and voted to not fund the war. Paul meant it and he voted not to keep funding the war. I wonder why they voted that way?
Who forced the Dems to vote to approve the funding of the war?
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
How much could they have meant it if they turned around and voted to fund it? Kucinich meant it and voted to not fund the war. Paul meant it and he voted not to keep funding the war. I wonder why they voted that way?
Who forced the Dems to vote to approve the funding of the war?
Bush wasn't planning on stopping the war either way. He was ready to cut over 200,000 civilian jobs/close bases to free up funds. Plus the "feed and forage act" was being talked about also to keep the troops supplied.
Bush wasn't planning on stopping the war either way. He was ready to cut over 200,000 civilian jobs/close bases to free up funds. Plus the "feed and forage act" was being talked about also to keep the troops supplied.
Bush took the position that he'd rather let everything fall apart than not get his way apparently.
And we just sit back and let him get away with that kind of shit. Why even have impeachment or filibuster....nothing's apparently important enough to use it for. The President does not have absolute power no matter what you guys say. If he pulled this crap and the dems and reps couldn't come together (with the support of the majority of american citizens who want this war over) to impeach his ass and let everything fall apart, what good are they? There's no way he could do something like that and not expect blowback from the citizenry and our elected representatives! And how would they ever expect to maintain their seats if they sat there and did nothing? There is supposed to be a system of checks and balances but our gov't is so phoney and sleazy...they only pretend to give a shit.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Just take a look at the swollen bank accounts of this administrations crony's, the bank accounts of those in the defense industry, and the bank accounts of the energy industry.
They are laughing all the way to the bank, with our fucking money. And we can only blame ourselves for letting this happen in our name.
If we'd stop giving them our money, it would be a little more difficult for them to do this.
Vote for people who will lower taxes....
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
A serious question. Did even a single member of the US adminsitration loose their job over the Iraq disaster?
nope! in fact, ppl like condi rice got promoted! (and obama voted for her promotion) the guy who was condi's assistant, can't think of his name off hand, stephen something maybe?, anyway, he has condi's old job now...when it came out that the cia told the white house, condi's office and speechwriters the yellowcake and other things were untrue and should be taken out...this clown said the phone calls and memos from the cia over this just 'slipped his mind' and they accidentally were left in the state of the union address....so no, not anyone lost their job, in fact that clown tried to resign after it came out the cia DID tell them they disagreed (despite bush saying they never did) bush refused to accept his resignation!!! and like i said, now he has condi's old job as national security advisor
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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Spin like - 'they voted for it, but they didn't really mean it'.
They have had the majority for 1 year, and these bills don't pop up that often. They aren't voting to fund monthly or anything like that. They did try to pass a short term bill to fund for a short period of time so they could work out some sort of agreement, but it was shot down.
Twice in the 1 year was the most possible times they could have done it.
How much could they have meant it if they turned around and voted to fund it? Kucinich meant it and voted to not fund the war. Paul meant it and he voted not to keep funding the war. I wonder why they voted that way?
Who forced the Dems to vote to approve the funding of the war?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Bush wasn't planning on stopping the war either way. He was ready to cut over 200,000 civilian jobs/close bases to free up funds. Plus the "feed and forage act" was being talked about also to keep the troops supplied.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_and_Forage_Act
Bush took the position that he'd rather let everything fall apart than not get his way apparently.
And we just sit back and let him get away with that kind of shit. Why even have impeachment or filibuster....nothing's apparently important enough to use it for. The President does not have absolute power no matter what you guys say. If he pulled this crap and the dems and reps couldn't come together (with the support of the majority of american citizens who want this war over) to impeach his ass and let everything fall apart, what good are they? There's no way he could do something like that and not expect blowback from the citizenry and our elected representatives! And how would they ever expect to maintain their seats if they sat there and did nothing? There is supposed to be a system of checks and balances but our gov't is so phoney and sleazy...they only pretend to give a shit.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
If we'd stop giving them our money, it would be a little more difficult for them to do this.
Vote for people who will lower taxes....
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i thought he resigned?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
nope! in fact, ppl like condi rice got promoted! (and obama voted for her promotion) the guy who was condi's assistant, can't think of his name off hand, stephen something maybe?, anyway, he has condi's old job now...when it came out that the cia told the white house, condi's office and speechwriters the yellowcake and other things were untrue and should be taken out...this clown said the phone calls and memos from the cia over this just 'slipped his mind' and they accidentally were left in the state of the union address....so no, not anyone lost their job, in fact that clown tried to resign after it came out the cia DID tell them they disagreed (despite bush saying they never did) bush refused to accept his resignation!!! and like i said, now he has condi's old job as national security advisor
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way