Yay, Texas! We're No. 1!

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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    RainDog wrote:
    And I am Catholic. At least raised so.

    Keywords: "At Least"
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    being that i live in texas and i'm hispanic... it doesn't have anything to do with catholicism and whatnot. most these hispanic teens just don't get educated plenty enough... it's like a culture here in texas. for the majority of hispanics it's like a part of their culture to drop out of highschool and get pregnant. ask any of these girls and they never tried to "not get pregnant." it's basically a culture, that's what it is. hispanics here in texas are very different from hispanics in california... or i would say in most other states. i'm not sure about the black community though.

    i have numerous of hispanic unmarried friends who are single mothers. it's like a pattern... and all of these friends of mine aren't even catholics.


    So do they move in with their boyfriends or do they live at their parent's place? The last thing I would have wanted when I was fourteen would have been to be a father. I can't imagine a child wanting a child and the culture not being able to see how hard it is to pull it off.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    And also with the women who won't use BC right? No? They're not at fault?

    a birth control prescription that has to be paid for every month regardless of activity is a helluva lot harder for poor young women to manage than it is for a guy to carry a condom. which is why i think birth control should be mandatory AND free for women receiving public aid for children. we'll help you out if you made a mistake, but if you can't provide for the kids you have, you don't have any more.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    we'll help you out if you made a mistake, but if you can't provide for the kids you have, you don't have any more.

    I would be okay with that.

    If they want any more help from the government then they have to get on BC. Otherwise they can have as many kids as they want without government help.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    i'm not a catholic so i don't see it my need to defend the catholic church. but from what i have experienced, the catholic church has always been there willing to help out pregnant, or single mothers. i might not be sure what you're referring to though. but i can assure catholics have been there willing to help... i guess it's just up to the person who wants to get help

    i dont doubt they're willing to help, but the official church line is no contraception. personally, i think it has far, far less to do with race than it has to do with income. the poor have less options, resources, and education. from everything i've heard, if you separate by that it is WAY more meaningful than racial distinctions. poor whites vs. rich whites being almost identical to poor blacks vs. rich blacks and whatnot. it just so happens poverty is far more prevalent among minorities, so it LOOKS like a racial issue.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    He's referring to the Church's opposition on contraception.

    For these young hispanic moms, it comes down to one thing: sex is better without rubbers!

    It's got nothing to do with a distant, aloof Catholic Church in Rome telling you not to use protection. That idea never even crosses their minds.
    It has plenty to do with it. The Catholic Church actively trys to prevent the distribution of birth control.

    You can say that sex is better without rubbers - then what about the pill?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    He's referring to the Church's opposition on contraception.

    For these young hispanic moms, it comes down to one thing: sex is better without rubbers!

    It's got nothing to do with a distant, aloof Catholic Church in Rome telling you not to use protection. That idea never even crosses their minds.

    yeah, you're not a racist as all... you just have an amazing ability to know the inner thoughts of all hispanic women. do you even know any young single hispanic moms? did they tell you personally they got pregnant becos they refuse to wear condoms?
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Keywords: "At Least"
    Active and practicing until I was at least as old as you.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    i dont doubt they're willing to help, but the official church line is no contraception. personally, i think it has far, far less to do with race than it has to do with income. the poor have less options, resources, and education. from everything i've heard, if you separate by that it is WAY more meaningful than racial distinctions. poor whites vs. rich whites being almost identical to poor blacks vs. rich blacks and whatnot. it just so happens poverty is far more prevalent among minorities, so it LOOKS like a racial issue.

    Sometimes cultures adopt certain ways of behaving that cause people within that culture to be in poverty. It's not because they're black, but because they're black people who live in a community that doesn't support education, families, or abstinence.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    yeah, you're not a racist as all... you just have an amazing ability to know the inner thoughts of all hispanic women. do you even know any young single hispanic moms? did they tell you personally they got pregnant becos they refuse to wear condoms?

    I made an assumption based on prior experience...guess you've never had sex...:D
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Sometimes cultures adopt certain ways of behaving that cause people within that culture to be in poverty. It's not because they're black, but because they're black people who live in a community that doesn't support education, families, or abstinence.

    and you know this becos of rush limbaugh's book about black culture?

    it's a vicious cycle, but the poverty came first bud. they were slaves who had nothing and were segregated. it kicked off a cycle of no education and broken families which made the poverty worse. i agree, the community values keep them in poverty, but those cultural values came second as a result, the poverty was first.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    soulsinging wrote:
    and you know this becos of rush limbaugh's book about black culture?

    it's a vicious cycle, but the poverty came first bud. they were slaves who had nothing and were segregated. it kicked off a cycle of no education and broken families which made the poverty worse. i agree, the community values keep them in poverty, but those cultural values came second as a result, the poverty was first.


    Just using your post, this is no way directed at you. But....If you came from a family where you were male and raised by a mother that you watched struggle and never knew your father. Why would you go out and pull the same stunt and think it right? I'm always curious to why that happens repeatedly.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I made an assumption based on prior experience...guess you've never had sex...:D

    1) there's no doubt it feels better, but you have no clue if that is the reason these slutty spic bitches keep popping out kids, as you like to think of it.

    2) nice to see blatant hypocrisy from a conservative catholic who decides homosexuality is a damnable sin, but he is free to break the no sex until marriage rule at will.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    even flow? wrote:
    Just using your post, this is no way directed at you. But....If you came from a family where you were male and raised by a mother that you watched struggle and never knew your father. Why would you go out and pull the same stunt and think it right? I'm always curious to why that happens repeatedly.

    becos, looking beyond that, you see a ghetto culture where it looks like that's probly as good as you're going to get, there are few to no men around to serve as strong examples of good male behavior, and the culture glorifies the playa lifestyle in all their music, movies and entertainment.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    these slutty spic bitches keep popping out kids

    No need to get racist on us.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    soulsinging wrote:
    2) nice to see blatant hypocrisy from a conservative catholic who decides homosexuality is a damnable sin, but he is free to break the no sex until marriage rule at will.
    From the Catholic perspective, homosexuality and pre-marital sex with birth control are essentially the same sin - sex outside of marriage without the possibility of conception. Hell, they used to extend this all the way to masturbation (Onanism). That one's still frowned upon, but, well, you know....
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    No need to get racist on us.

    way to not respond to the points when they have clearly exposed you for the fraud you are.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    way to not respond to the points when they have clearly exposed you for the fraud you are.

    I never said I opposed sex before marriage or contraception.

    And for good measure:
    soulsinging wrote:
    these slutty spic bitches keep popping out kids

    LOL!!
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    It did not take long for this to turn into a religion and damn the catholic church thread. What is amazing is that religion was not mentioned at all. All I see is a lot of educated and uneducated/ignorant stereotypes being made.

    The one poster who is Hispanic and lives in Texas was basically dismissed as not knowing what's going on. Have we all become so biased that we have completely lost the ability to learn when to shut up and listen?
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    surferdude wrote:
    What do people think of the racial differences in teen birth rates?

    correlation is not causation :)
    Are any actions going to be taken to solve this issue?

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