it's more like you stopping a guy driving fine, who isn't drunk, claiming he is, and then throwing his car off the cliff.
How so? Barack has ordered a bombing of Iran? Wow, i missed that story on the "political ticker". Pardon me for saying it, but it seems to be your sense of analogy thats not up to snuff.
i'm outta hee for awhile. i've got better things to do than argue with pseudo-intellectuals and explain analogies to wannabe SAT proctors.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
oh come on, you and I both know the situation these days, and that military option on the table is not a thing to not be worried about.
If it was Bush yes it would be something to be concerned about.
I believe in judging someone AFTER the crime not before.
Obama and McCain are guilty of nothing more then talking tough leading up to Negotiations.
Same things that Agents, Coaches, Lawyers, Teachers, or anyone else in a position of power has to do from time to time.
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It's just a matter of time. Kinda like carving up a big fat turkey sooner or later the entire bird is on the plate (which is on the table...haha)
Obama is flat out a jackass for parroting the Bush empirical ideology towards Iran, and whether or not you think military options are on the table...WHAT MATTERS is that Iran most certainly believes it. That's what really matters.
Way to make friends Obama...ya jackass
whore yourself for those votes....whore yourself out...oooo...yeah
go bobo go!
I would never want you on a Jury. You would judge guilty before all the facts have been presented just based on your gut.
The fact is all Obama has ever said is that all options are on the table in the regards to Iran.
I'm a peaceful person who is very close to a Pacifist, but that doesn't bother me in the least and I have a hard time making the leap that means we are guaranteed war.
Hell when I buy a lotto ticket my winning 50 Million is a possible outcome or on the table so to speak. Doesn't mean I'm going out to buy my Mansion and Ferrari.
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I would never want you on a Jury. You would judge guilty before all the facts have been presented just based on your gut.
The fact is all Obama has ever said is that all options are on the table in the regards to Iran.
I'm a peaceful person who is very close to a Pacifist, but that doesn't bother me in the least and I have a hard time making the leap that means we are guaranteed war.
Hell when I buy a lotto ticket my winning 50 Million is a possible outcome or on the table so to speak. Doesn't mean I'm going out to buy my Mansion and Ferrari.
I'll agree with this. Obama would be crazy to promise not to consider taking up arms against Iran if he is to win over the vote of an American public that has been conditioned for attack first question later over eight miserable years of W.
The reality is it will either be McCain or Obama and when it comes to the Iran lotto, I'm much rather risk that ticket being in Obama's hand.
I would never want you on a Jury. You would judge guilty before all the facts have been presented just based on your gut.
The fact is all Obama has ever said is that all options are on the table in the regards to Iran.
I'm a peaceful person who is very close to a Pacifist, but that doesn't bother me in the least and I have a hard time making the leap that means we are guaranteed war.
Hell when I buy a lotto ticket my winning 50 Million is a possible outcome or on the table so to speak. Doesn't mean I'm going out to buy my Mansion and Ferrari.
jesus christ, no one here is saying it's guaranteed war on Iran, but WHY SHOULD THERE BE MILITARY OPTION IN THE FIRST PLACE? why is he calling Iran a threat to Israel when they aren't? why is he calling their nuclear program illegal when it isn't? why is he wanting to place sanctions on them for the nuclear program when there is nothing wrong with it?
if he's doing all this to PLEASE the public, then fuck him, he doesn't deserve my vote. someone who's willing to give up his morals and credibility to please the public doesn't deserve to be president. and don't give me any reality bullshit because the only reality is how far you're willing to go, and you guys would take anything thrown at you from Obama.
edit: before I get attacked for that last sentence, it's called an exaggeration.
if he's doing all this to PLEASE the public, then fuck him, he doesn't deserve my vote. someone who's willing to give up his morals and credibility to please the public doesn't deserve to be president. and don't give me any reality bullshit because the only reality is how far you're willing to go, and you guys would take anything thrown at you from Obama.
Are you new to politics? Please explain to me how someone gets voted into office without pleasing the public.
Are you new to politics? Please explain to me how someone gets voted into office without pleasing the public.
are you kidding me? I'm not talking about pleasing the public in general, I'm talking about giving up your morals and using fearmongering, something the Bush admin has been doing.
but go ahead with your... whatever it is the point you're trying to make.
I would never want you on a Jury. You would judge guilty before all the facts have been presented just based on your gut.
The fact is all Obama has ever said is that all options are on the table in the regards to Iran.
I'm a peaceful person who is very close to a Pacifist, but that doesn't bother me in the least and I have a hard time making the leap that means we are guaranteed war.
Hell when I buy a lotto ticket my winning 50 Million is a possible outcome or on the table so to speak. Doesn't mean I'm going out to buy my Mansion and Ferrari.
Obama has most definitely said all options are on the table with regards to Iran. He also said their nuclear program was illegal.
If I'm (not) on the jury....I hope you're not the judge as well....cause you're missing some key colors in painting the Obama peacenik portrait.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Obama has most definitely said all options are on the table with regards to Iran. He also said their nuclear program was illegal.
If I'm (not) on the jury....I hope you're not the judge as well....cause you're missing some key colors in painting the Obama peacenik portrait.
He's not a peacenik.
Neither was JFK. One can be a progressive and still fight when called upon.
I actually don't want any countries to develop Nuclear weapons so I won't fight him on that.
The fact is we already have are weapons so I know that sounds hypocritical but the world would be a better safer place with less countries with nukes not more.
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Neither was JFK. One can be a progressive and still fight when called upon.
I actually don't want any countries to develop Nuclear weapons so I won't fight him on that.
The fact is we already have are weapons so I know that sounds hypocritical but the world would be a better safer place with less countries with nukes not more.
The US kick started Iran's nuclear power program in the first place, but it's illegal and needs to be stopped now.....because they have the delicious oil...
Illegal program to Barak though...a hunting we will go I guess...gotta kill those terrorists faster then we make them...
I guess the best way to diffuse a situation is to start making threats and accusations. (agree with sanctions...calling the program illegal)
hmm
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The rest of the world is openly rooting for Obama for President. It's one of many factors that is influencing my vote.
I feel Obama can rebuild the bridges burned by the Bush Administration.
I want to be able to travel to Europe without being spit on!!!
The Clinton-Gore administration actually had the Israelis and Palestine talking in the 90's and trying to find a peaceful treaty.
The ironic thing is, it was the first George (H) Bush made some efforts before Bill was President and then Little George fucked everything up. Before the first Bush, nobody really wanted to touch this crisis/issue.
The Clinton-Gore administration actually had the Israelis and Palestine talking in the 90's and trying to find a peaceful treaty.
The ironic thing is, it was the first George (H) Bush made some efforts before Bill was President and then Little George fucked everything up. Before the first Bush, nobody really wanted to touch this crisis/issue.
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i'm outta hee for awhile. i've got better things to do than argue with pseudo-intellectuals and explain analogies to wannabe SAT proctors.
If it was Bush yes it would be something to be concerned about.
I believe in judging someone AFTER the crime not before.
Obama and McCain are guilty of nothing more then talking tough leading up to Negotiations.
Same things that Agents, Coaches, Lawyers, Teachers, or anyone else in a position of power has to do from time to time.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
I would never want you on a Jury. You would judge guilty before all the facts have been presented just based on your gut.
The fact is all Obama has ever said is that all options are on the table in the regards to Iran.
I'm a peaceful person who is very close to a Pacifist, but that doesn't bother me in the least and I have a hard time making the leap that means we are guaranteed war.
Hell when I buy a lotto ticket my winning 50 Million is a possible outcome or on the table so to speak. Doesn't mean I'm going out to buy my Mansion and Ferrari.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
I'll agree with this. Obama would be crazy to promise not to consider taking up arms against Iran if he is to win over the vote of an American public that has been conditioned for attack first question later over eight miserable years of W.
The reality is it will either be McCain or Obama and when it comes to the Iran lotto, I'm much rather risk that ticket being in Obama's hand.
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if he's doing all this to PLEASE the public, then fuck him, he doesn't deserve my vote. someone who's willing to give up his morals and credibility to please the public doesn't deserve to be president. and don't give me any reality bullshit because the only reality is how far you're willing to go, and you guys would take anything thrown at you from Obama.
edit: before I get attacked for that last sentence, it's called an exaggeration.
Are you new to politics? Please explain to me how someone gets voted into office without pleasing the public.
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but go ahead with your... whatever it is the point you're trying to make.
Obama has most definitely said all options are on the table with regards to Iran. He also said their nuclear program was illegal.
If I'm (not) on the jury....I hope you're not the judge as well....cause you're missing some key colors in painting the Obama peacenik portrait.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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He's not a peacenik.
Neither was JFK. One can be a progressive and still fight when called upon.
I actually don't want any countries to develop Nuclear weapons so I won't fight him on that.
The fact is we already have are weapons so I know that sounds hypocritical but the world would be a better safer place with less countries with nukes not more.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
The US kick started Iran's nuclear power program in the first place, but it's illegal and needs to be stopped now.....because they have the delicious oil...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran
meddle meddle...games games and more games...
Illegal program to Barak though...a hunting we will go I guess...gotta kill those terrorists faster then we make them...
I guess the best way to diffuse a situation is to start making threats and accusations. (agree with sanctions...calling the program illegal)
hmm
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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The ironic thing is, it was the first George (H) Bush made some efforts before Bill was President and then Little George fucked everything up. Before the first Bush, nobody really wanted to touch this crisis/issue.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
The Oslo Accords were bullshit.
Like I said, nobody even wanted to even touch this issue until GHW Bush and then Clinton worked up on the process.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009