The Health Service - a quick story

DOSW

Gonzo1977 wrote:

The United States hasn't even tried Universal Health Care, so how can they say it can't work?

Well in fairness the European system of universal healthcare won't fly here in America... which is why we need our own kind of universal system like the one Obama is proposing.

JOEJOEJOE

the u.s. govt needs to become more efficient administrators before they start a new program that serves everyone. besides the irs and the ssa, i cant think of any other agency that serves most every american.

Strangest Tribe

to me this is a no brainer. Everythings already in place all the government has to do is underwrite it..
Right now my wife has insurance through the school system where she works and is charged $270 a month to be on the group program that she's on. My wife's rate is 75% paid by her employer. Since the group rate includes many retired school employees her rate is extraordinarily high.

With Obama's plan we can keep the same insurance sans the group rate overcharge and actually save over $200 per month.

It's good for everyone!!!

blondieblue227

dunkman wrote:

so why does the richest nation in the world still make its citizens pay for health treatment?

i have no fucking clue.
yes, i'm bitter about it. you would be too if you were in my shoes.

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=265733

Strangest Tribe

wouldn't it be simple if there was a universal insurance rate?

How fair is your company's group rate if you are a non-smoker and you work someplace where there are 70% smokers on the group policy. Yeah sure, your rate may be lower than theirs at first but just wait til several of them get cancer... then your rate goes up as well.

Anon

know1 wrote:

But if all citizens lost their jobs and stopped paying taxes, there would be no healthcare. It only works if the vast majority are still paying for it. Plus, the government is taking its cut as well.

Oh i'm sure our government will find a way to keep the fund propped up. Just like we have a never ending supply of money to keep funding the war on terror right?

Same old story. Our government has no problems with the billions of dollars spent for that. But when it comes to looking after the health of all our citizens it's a different story.

know1

Pj_Gurl wrote:

Oh i'm sure our government will find a way to keep the fund propped up. Just like we have a never ending supply of money to keep funding the war on terror right?

Same old story. Our government has no problems with the billions of dollars spent for that. But when it comes to looking after the health of all our citizens it's a different story.

You'll get no argument from me about the ridiculous amount of money wasted in Iraq. That's why we have to demand lower taxes.

Commy

know1 wrote:

You'll get no argument from me about the ridiculous amount of money wasted in Iraq. That's why we have to demand lower taxes.

or maybe elect a government not so set on guarnanteeing the profit of private companies.


Think about how lucrative that was for Haliburton. The US gov't destroys a country and then hires a corporation to come in and rebuild it. Doesn't get much better for those seeking profit.

pateljam

evenkat wrote:

Isn't that about the time Britain lost its greatest nation in the world title and the US took it over?

Nah, I'm all for it! Those who disagree have all sorts of reasons why it won't work or we shouldn't do it but overall the pros outweigh the cons.

It seems it would be cheaper to have healthcare for all then the war...

blondieblue227

Quit squabbling and fix the damn shit! Lol!

pateljam

blondieblue227 wrote:

i have no fucking clue.
yes, i'm bitter about it. you would be too if you were in my shoes.

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=265733

I am very bitter I don't have the health issue that you have. It is criminal...