Does anyone have anything positive to say about Obama?

fugawzi

know1 wrote:

And specific?

Just wondering.

Posts on this board mirror the candidates' campaigns - all negative about the other side, but nothing positive or of substance about their own policies.

That's BS. There are plenty of people around here saying original positive things about Obama. Actually, it's mostly McCain supporters and Anti-Obamaists who are mostly echoing McCain's talking points.

Black Diamond

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24fri1.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=opinion

saveuplife

inmytree wrote:

so much for being positive...

:rolleyes:

I was being positive. I'm serious. If he ever needed to shoot the shit to buy time, he'd have no problem.

brain of c

he's wicked cute.

fugawzi

brain of c wrote:

he's wicked cute.

What? Huh? What was that? Can't hear you.

rasty10

saveuplife wrote:

He's so good at speaking that you get lost in his words and 10 minutes later you realize he didn't say anything. He can use this ability with world leaders, when he wants to meet and not really say anything.

Finally the first sane post on here! I can't believe so many people are voting for Obama citing his showmanship as the BEST reason to vote for him. I can't conceive that someone would vote for a man based on his capability to talk without really saying anything...wow

g under p

rasty10 wrote:

Finally the first sane post on here! I can't believe so many people are voting for Obama citing his showmanship as the BEST reason to vote for him. I can't conceive that someone would vote for a man based on his capability to talk without really saying anything...wow

Hmmmmm...look how many voted for our President and he's NOT one of the best speakers ever. What does that tell YA?

Peace

Jack_C_Gregory

I find his efforts to be quite admirable. The guy was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth after all. I think it's a positive reinforcement to see a person work as hard as he has and is now at the point where he might possibly be the President of the U.S. He's kind of like the real life version of the "American Dream".

_Crazy_Mary_

he's married to the mother of his children

cincybearcat

cincybearcat wrote:

I actually like the idea of using diolugue with nations to try and drive the behaviors and results you would like to see.

And I also presume he can spell dialogue better than I can.

n2integrity

He's a hard worker, a person who thinks before he speaks, & he seems to consider all sides of an argument - he listens. I believe his heart is in the right place to try and make important changes (being effective will be another thing.)

I think his health care plan is a step in the right direction. I think his tax plan is a step in the right direction, I think his foreign policy in terms of the two wars and how he would engage with world leaders are steps in the right direction. I think his domestic agenda of making alternative energy as the next "apollo mission" is very necessary.

I also like that he is vocal about being pro-choice. Judges will be replaced in the next administration and it is important to me that Roe V Wade be upheld.

He runs his campaign effectively and overall I think his messages in this campaing is more positive than negative in the shitstorm of politics.

acutejam

I like his words on dead-beat dads. I like his stance on stem-cell research (which is the same as McCain's). And I like what Bernard-Henri Levy said recently in Salon:

Why do Europeans love Obama?

I don’t know. I can’t tell you why. I don’t love him, by the way. I wish him to be elected. It’s not a question of love or hate ... This is not the best way to make politics.

Why Obama should be chosen, in my opinion: No. 1, because it would mean really the end -- and the complete victory of the battle begun in the '60s. No. 2, because it will mean the end of a new American evil, which is the dividing, the Balkanization of American society. This is another counter-effect of a great idea, which was tolerance. You so much tolerate that you tolerate the American society to be in separate bubbles having their own peculiarities, and so on. Obama as president will mean all these bubbles submitted to a real ideal of citizenship. This is his message. McCain will not be able to do this. If McCain is elected, I can tell you the Iranians will close themselves in the Iranian identity. The Arabs will coldly, freezingly imprison themselves in the Muslim identity. [I think this will happen regardless. -aj] The African-Americans will believe that the American society is more and more built against them. You will have an increase of the Balkanization.

And No. 3, you have another ideal in the America of today, which I call the competition of victims. Competition of memories. If you are in favor of the Jews, you cannot be in favor of the blacks. If you remember the suffering of slavery, you cannot remember too much the suffering of the Holocaust, and so on and so on. The human heart has not space enough for all the sufferings. This is what some people say. Obama says the contrary. It will mean the end of this stupid topic, which is competition of victimhood.

http://www.salon.com/books/int/2008/10/20/bhl/

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I like that he panders to AIPAC like a little girl, wants to increase military spending, and is antisemitic towards the Palestinians.

Go war.... go NWO!

woo!

beachdweller

know1 wrote:

And specific?

Just wondering.

Posts on this board mirror the candidates' campaigns - all negative about the other side, but nothing positive or of substance about their own policies.

yeah, he will be the next President of the United States....doesn't get any more specific and positive than that.

YieldInHiding

know1 wrote:

And specific?

Just wondering.

Posts on this board mirror the candidates' campaigns - all negative about the other side, but nothing positive or of substance about their own policies.

Positive AND specific? You say this like it's impossible.

He is a terrific orator, has a lot of great ideas for helping move this country in the right direction (the most important, I believe, is investing in CLEAN sources of energy rather than "Drill Baby Drill!"). He wants to use a "pay as you go" method for government spending, although I'd like to know more about the other programs he intends to cut in order to pay for the ones he wants to start.

Anyway there are quite a few positive things to say. Why start this thread though? Did you think it was impossible for anyone to say anything positive about the guy?

Mrs.Vedder78

I think that using a scalpel as he puts it to cut spending is the right thing to do, there are many programs that are good programs that don't deserve to be cut while there are others that need to be cut right away.
I think its about making good decisions to make good change in our country.

I absolutely think that tax cuts for the wealthy needs to stop, the last administration tried that and it didn't take us anywhere so it is about time for someone to change that and Senator Obama will do so.

I am looking forward to being able to call Senator Obama, President Barack Obama with much pride!

Anon

know1 wrote:

And specific?

Just wondering.

Posts on this board mirror the candidates' campaigns - all negative about the other side, but nothing positive or of substance about their own policies.

That's a bullshit comment and you know it. Lately there are lots of negative posts about the other side, but you need to understand that the 'other side' are certainly giving people plenty of ammunition to use against them. I see people regulary and consistantly voicing their support for Obama and the reasons why.

So here we go again, just for you, i'll post this again. I have plenty of positive and specific things to say about Obama......

It's like back in the day when abook was posting regulary. It's not that no one is responding, it's like how many times do you get sick of saying the same thing, over and over. Daily it would be 'why do you support obama? So people would reply, and then the next day. Why do you support obama? Personally, i got really irked with that, because it was like, ok, why waste my time responding if you are going to ask the same question everytime Obama's name is mentioned. It gets very old. Quickly.

So, for about the hundredth time..

Obama speaks about responsibility, on both sides of the system. He wants government to be able to help those who need it the most. He also wants to be able to provide funds for college, raising children, providing health care to those without it… but he always reminds us that we have to be involved in the process. Under him, if you give back to your community, to the country, to the different service groups like peace and Americorps, if you give your time and effort, then government is going to be there to support you because you freakin’ deserve it. This is not socialism, it’s responsibility. Much more “American”.

The best part is, Obama’s call to service isn’t strictly military. I love that. You mean, I don’t have to join the army to be considered an American. I don’t have to own a gun, don’t have to have slaved my entire life away just to earn the distinction of “salt of the earth” (which is the most condescending bull shit I’ve ever heard).

Obama wants to end this nightmare of war that has cost the lives 100’s of thousands of civilians whose only crime is being born in Iraq. I'm guessing only a small % of those who have died were terrorists. Gut feel, i don't have facts to back this up. There's too many dead and they didn't have terrorists stamped on their head when they were murdered. Makes me sick to my stomach that the Republican Party has succeeded with associating one religion with absolute hatred, that they’ve been able to instil this idea that every single person in the Middle East has a bomb and a gun and a distinct hatred for Americans. Absolutely not true. Under Obama, this shit will end soon.

John McCain makes me feel un-American. Always pandering to the idea that democrats never worked and that everyone in America is some kind of coal miner or steel worker just trying to get by. That’s absolutely not true and It's disgusting when he pulls out middle class buzz-words.

A vote for John McCain is a vote for 100 more years of war. I feel like we will be in a war with Iran and Russia because that’s going to be his answer to the problems they stir up, and because of all this “need” for military presence, there’s going to be a draft which I will beg anyone i know to take up their American right to dodge the hell out of. Fuck going to war. We weren't born to kill or be killed.

Obama’s tax cuts will benefit the bottom 80% of Americans. John McCain’s will benefit the wealthiest 20%. While both McCain and Obama plan to lower taxes for at least 95% of Americans, the Obama tax cuts are greater for those who need it the most. Yes, Obama plans to raise taxes on those who make over $2.5 million a year, but take a look at this data http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co. ..-perspectives/ and see that John McCain’s plan cuts more taxes for the wealthiest than it does for the less well off. I don’t know where the McCain campaign got the idea that Obama plans to raise taxes on workers, just the top 1% of Americans.

Palin governs probably the last great wilderness in the western world, and she wants to fuck it over for the last few drops of oil. Unbelievable. John McCain and Sarah Palin support drilling in ANWR, and I absolutely do not. There’s one reason I can’t vote for McCain. Drilling for oil in America is not going to quell the rising price of gas, just destroy parts of the Earth and sections of it’s ecosystem that some people believe are very important to human beings sticking around for a while. He also has said repeatedly that he wants more nuclear power plants (I think 15).

Obama wants to rid us of the same dependence on foreign oil.
Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela combined. He also understands that doing that doesn’t mean we have to bring the oil home. It means changing the way we produce, consume and reuse our energy sources.

Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars — cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon — on the road by 2015, cars that we will work to make sure are built here in America. Sure, I can understand the desire to rid ourselves of foreign oil, but let’s do that by changing the energy infrastructure. Waaaaay better,as far as I am concerned, than voting for McCain.

McCains old, if anything happens to him, Sarah Palin will position herself to become America's first female president. Awesome . She's anti-abortion, anti enviroment, anti-stem cell research, anti euthanasia, anti gay marriage, a climate change denier and a born again bible believing christian creatonist.

She's opposed to sex education in schools and believes in promoting sexual abstinence among the unmarried. Mmm hmm. Sarah Palin wants to control the way any children i may have, receive sex ed., and wants to take away our reproductive rights so that there are no "choices" to make. Why is it i read post after post of people saying her private life and that of her family should stay removed from politics, but no criticizm from those same people that she should keep her nose out of my private life? So how can she then request that we do not discuss the choices her own family has made? If these are private matters for her family, what gives her the right to think she can control any decision i may make for my family?

She's a warmonger who can't find 'overseas' in the atlas and she's all apple pie and moose burgers. She's a living, breathing caricature, who btw McCain had only met once before

Seriously, if death does befall McCain, this woman could be the freakin president of the US.

There's a lot a stake for me, i have not had children yet. I want something better than this to bring them into. I don't have 'blind faith' that Obama is going to solve all our problems, i am not unrealistic as to what he can and can't do, but i do have hope that with the right people around him, he is the best candidate.

Say i'm wrong, and i'm placing faith and trust in someone that doesn't deserve it, obama gets in, and he continues with Bush doctrine, the conversation in 4 years will be much different. We won't be fooled twice now will we.

Clearly i'm hoping this will not be the case.

know1

YieldInHiding wrote:

Why start this thread though? Did you think it was impossible for anyone to say anything positive about the guy?

No. At the time I started it, about 7 out of the first 10 threads were bashing McCain or Palin. I'm just so sick of the bashing, I was wanting to see if some of his supporters could actually come up with anything of substance to say about him as opposed to just cutting down his opponent.

Anon

know1 wrote:

No. At the time I started it, about 7 out of the first 10 threads were bashing McCain or Palin. I'm just so sick of the bashing, I was wanting to see if some of his supporters could actually come up with anything of substance to say about him as opposed to just cutting down his opponent.

Ohh booo fucking boo hoo. It didn't seem to bother people too much when spinbrett was posting pages and pages of his shit abaout obama.

YieldInHiding

know1 wrote:

No. At the time I started it, about 7 out of the first 10 threads were bashing McCain or Palin. I'm just so sick of the bashing, I was wanting to see if some of his supporters could actually come up with anything of substance to say about him as opposed to just cutting down his opponent.

Maybe they've done a lot more to deserve the bashing than Obama?