Here's another honor killing...

jsand

RainDog wrote:

I want to broaden the scope so that we don't just focus on Muslim fundamentalism.

How can you not focus on Muslim fundamentalism when it is by far the most prevalent force in the world today? If Christians, Jews, Budhists, Scientologists, or anyone else was committing acts of violence and brutality around the world on a daily basis, I would be posting about that. But that's not the case. To focus on other forms of fundamentalism is to obfuscate and avoid the truth.

dg1979us

RainDog wrote:

Honor killings have a long history in many different religions and they are all reprehensible. And I'm very un-PC when it comes to religious fundamentalism of any stripe. I want to broaden the scope so that we don't just focus on Muslim fundamentalism.

Well religion in general has certainly caused for stupidy, not disagreeing a bit there. And maybe this shouldnt be directed at you, but this board quite often seems to treat Islam with kitten gloves, but doesnt give the same treatment to Christianity. WHich I just dont understand. But again, maybe I shouldnt have directed that towards you. But in your initial post it didnt come across to me as broadening the scope, it more came across as changing the subject, but maybe I took it the wrong way.

Cosmo

jsand wrote:

Again, people on this board can dish it out but when it comes to anything about Muslims, they can't take it. How many anti-Israel posts are on this board, with terrible blood libels that aren't even true? Then I come along, and post stories about straight up FACTS, and I'm a bigoted, racist asshole?

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Who said anything about bigotry or racism? I wasn't me.
And I'm not defending Muslims or anything... regarding the Middle East... I think they are ALL assholes over there... Arabs AND Jews. ASSHOLES. If they want to continue a thousand year war with no reason... they are assholes in my opinion.
The statement I made is... YES... we understand that you hate Arabs. That is the point you are constantly drilling us with. You hate Arabs. We get it.

even flow?

Cosmo wrote:

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Who said anything about bigotry or racism? I wasn't me.
And I'm not defending Muslims or anything... regarding the Middle East... I think they are ALL assholes over there... Arabs AND Jews. ASSHOLES. If they want to continue a thousand year war with no reason... they are assholes in my opinion.
The statement I made is... YES... we understand that you hate Arabs. That is the point you are constantly drilling us with. You hate Arabs. We get it.

Isn't it too early for coffee where you live better yet to be on the board?!

WMA

There are a crazy number of murders happening everywhere, all the time.

I'm sure with enough research you can make any religion look really bad just by guessing the religion of the accused by their names, or place of residence and posting all of the news articles. I'm sure it'd piss off just about everyone here eventually if that was done though.

jsand

Cosmo wrote:

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Who said anything about bigotry or racism? I wasn't me.
And I'm not defending Muslims or anything... regarding the Middle East... I think they are ALL assholes over there... Arabs AND Jews. ASSHOLES. If they want to continue a thousand year war with no reason... they are assholes in my opinion.
The statement I made is... YES... we understand that you hate Arabs. That is the point you are constantly drilling us with. You hate Arabs. We get it.

No, I don't hate Arabs. One of my best friends is Arab - a Coptic Christian one. If you really want to see someone who hates Muslims, you should talk to him. His family is from Egypt and they were persecuted for being Christian.

stuckinline

WMA wrote:

There are a crazy number of murders happening everywhere, all the time.

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well put!

RainDog

dg1979us wrote:

Well religion in general has certainly caused for stupidy, not disagreeing a bit there. And maybe this shouldnt be directed at you, but this board quite often seems to treat Islam with kitten gloves, but doesnt give the same treatment to Christianity. WHich I just dont understand. But again, maybe I shouldnt have directed that towards you. But in your initial post it didnt come across to me as broadening the scope, it more came across as changing the subject, but maybe I took it the wrong way.

To be perfectly honest, I was doing a bit of leading there. But, trust me, I have no love for fundamental Islam.

For me, the reason why fundamental Christianity gets a lot of my ire is because Christianity is the majority religion in the west. I want to see it knocked down, not built up in opposition to fundamental Islam; I want a secular world to take them both out.

dg1979us

RainDog wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I was doing a bit of leading there. But, trust me, I have no love for fundamental Islam.

For me, the reason why fundamental Christianity gets a lot of my ire is because Christianity is the majority religion in the west. I want to see it knocked down, not built up in opposition to fundamental Islam; I want a secular world to take them both out.

I dont disagree with that.

Cosmo

even flow? wrote:

Isn't it too early for coffee where you live better yet to be on the board?!

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I'm on call his week (Thursday to Thursday) and one of the damn webserver systems went on the fritz and rousted me out of bed early.
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So... this is what 6 o'clock looks like, huh?

NMyTree

Plenty of Seriel Killers, mass-murderers and other whackos (of non-muslim ) faith, have killed because allegedly their delusional minds told them their "God" told them to do it.

Son Of Sam killed because his "Dog" told him to.

Ironically, "god" may have been talking through "dog"......visa-versa.

VictoryGin

RainDog wrote:

Honor killings have a long history in many different religions and they are all reprehensible. And I'm very un-PC when it comes to religious fundamentalism of any stripe. I want to broaden the scope so that we don't just focus on Muslim fundamentalism.

http://www.christiangallery.com/bray.html
In its review of local activities during the summer of 1997, they commented:
"There was a brief flurry of abortuary destruction in the early part of the year (bringing joy to the hearts of those who pray for spiritual revival)...But it is bothersome to be reminded of the call God has placed upon the lives of others. Paul Hill has been sentenced to death. Apparently he was called [by God] to the sacrificial, public witness he made...Paul Hill was called to abort the abortionist, and his wife and children were called to suffer the loss of husband and father for righteousness sake...A righteous man, our brother in the Faith, has been sentenced to die for doing justice and showing mercy. He is to be executed for obedience to our Lord."

http://www.christiangallery.com/

http://www.armyofgod.com/

jeffbr

VictoryGin wrote:

http://www.christiangallery.com/bray.html
In its review of local activities during the summer of 1997, they commented:
"There was a brief flurry of abortuary destruction in the early part of the year (bringing joy to the hearts of those who pray for spiritual revival)...But it is bothersome to be reminded of the call God has placed upon the lives of others. Paul Hill has been sentenced to death. Apparently he was called [by God] to the sacrificial, public witness he made...Paul Hill was called to abort the abortionist, and his wife and children were called to suffer the loss of husband and father for righteousness sake...A righteous man, our brother in the Faith, has been sentenced to die for doing justice and showing mercy. He is to be executed for obedience to our Lord."

http://www.christiangallery.com/

http://www.armyofgod.com/

Thanks for the links and the reminder that religious fundamentalism of any flavor is a bad thing. It is amazing how fucked up people can get in the name of their particular god.

VictoryGin

jeffbr wrote:

Thanks for the links and the reminder that religious fundamentalism of any flavor is a bad thing. It is amazing how fucked up people can get in the name of their particular god.

Absolutely. Religious fundamentalism isn't just bad when it's killing or other acts of violence in the name of Allah. It should also be judged accordingly when it's killing or other acts of violence in the name of God.

NMyTree

I would hope that most people already know this.

Murder and destruction in the name of any "god" is dispicable.