If you're a Muslim, it's your problem

jsand
jsand Posts: 646
edited August 2006 in A Moving Train
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/lordstevens.shtml

Great article.
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  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    Stupidity is everywhere, saying that muslim community are not trying to eradicate radical islamist is pure ignorant stupidity... yes it's there problem cause they're the one suffering the most out of these terrorist, because of stupid blatant generalizations like the one in the article you post, and because of the people praising and spreading this information like candies and believing in those racist bullshit.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    Stupidity is everywhere, saying that muslim community are not trying to eradicate radical islamist is pure ignorant stupidity... yes it's there problem cause they're the one suffering the most out of these terrorist, because of stupid blatant generalizations like the one in the article you post, and because of the people praising and spreading this information like candies and believing in those racist bullshit.

    Where is the public outcry from the clerics around the world? SILENT!
  • Human Tide
    Human Tide Posts: 329
    jsand wrote:
    http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/lordstevens.shtml

    Great article.

    If you're a bigot, it's unfortunately our problem because we end up reading the crap you post.

    By the way, when are you going to tell me more about Siniora's responsibility for not disarming Hizbollah 5 years ago?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jsand wrote:
    http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/lordstevens.shtml

    Great article.

    Islamic terrorism is not "their" problem. Islamic terrorism is a problem for anyone who loves life and freedom.

    A random British muslim is no more responsible for Islamic terrorism than a random British christian. I won't go so far to call this article racist since it seems to stem from nothing more than stupidity and a lack of thought.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    binauralsounds wrote:
    Where is the public outcry from the clerics around the world? SILENT!

    Canadian Clerics have time and time again denounced terrorist activity related to fundanutlism......so there is public outcry....
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    binauralsounds wrote:
    Where is the public outcry from the clerics around the world? SILENT!

    Many clerics from all corners of the globe have denounced terrorism.
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    Not being sarcastic, but I hardy hear or read anything about the outcry. Sure, I hear of one once in a blue moon, but not like it's described here.
  • sliverstain
    sliverstain Posts: 340
    Its the NOTW for chrissake people. Don't waste time responding.

    You take that National Enquirer, throw in a dozen pages of soccer, and half a dozen pages of breasts and bikinis, you get the NOTW.
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    binauralsounds wrote:
    Where is the public outcry from the clerics around the world? SILENT!

    It's not true at all, you're either lying or have not heard of them, but they are not silent. Example The Canadian Muslim council spoke loud and clear AGAINST radical islam. And you probably have no arabs or muslims around you either, they're the one suffering, they hate those radicals, they make them suffer from racism generalisations.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    It's not true at all, you're either lying or have not heard of them, but they are not silent. Example The Canadian Muslim council spoke loud and clear AGAINST radical islam. And you probably have no arabs or muslims around you either, they're the one suffering, they hate those radicals, they make them suffer from racism generalisations.

    First, i'm not lying! Secondly, I have no arabs or muslims around me? I have quite a few muslim friends and have had rational debates with them!!

    One condemned suicide bombers, the few others, well, lets say, never denounced them at all. so...
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    binauralsounds wrote:
    Not being sarcastic, but I hardy hear or read anything about the outcry. Sure, I hear of one once in a blue moon, but not like it's described here.

    Well in my country there is ALWAYS somebody denouncing radical Islam...its always on the news...I can say that for a fact....once in a blue moon my ass.....just cause you do not hear about it does not mean it is happening.....
  • sliverstain
    sliverstain Posts: 340
    binauralsounds wrote:
    Not being sarcastic, but I hardy hear or read anything about the outcry. Sure, I hear of one once in a blue moon, but not like it's described here.


    Maybe, you know, try tuning into none US media outlets.

    And maybe, just maybe, these clerics wait until justice has taken its turn, and wait for the conviction.

    A 1000 people have been arrested in the UK under the terror act since 911. 60 await trial. And what, one conviction?

    I'm disgusted by the lack of condemnation from Christian leaders with regards to the indiscriminate slaughter of people around the wolrd by the USUKISRAEL. millions have died since Iraq 91...no condemnations though...
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    sliverstain wrote:
    Its the NOTW for chrissake people. Don't waste time responding.

    How ironic...
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    binauralsounds wrote:
    First, i'm not lying! Secondly, I have no arabs or muslims around me? I have quite a few muslim friends and have had rational debates with them!!

    One condemned suicide bombers, the few others, well, lets say, never denounced them at all. so...

    .... so they're guilty? I was not trying to say you're lying by the way, just trying to say that what you said is not true.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • sliverstain
    sliverstain Posts: 340
    farfromglorified wrote:
    How ironic...


    How unconstructive. A waste of a post.

    My post discredited the source of the original, disgraceful 'report'.

    Please stay on topic. Sarcastic side swipes are really uncalled for given the current climate.

    Thank you!!
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    .... so they're guilty? I was not trying to say you're lying by the way, just trying to say that what you said is not true.

    I never said they were "guilty" And i'm just saying I have'nt heard the outcry and never said it was false! I'll do some searching around today.
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    binauralsounds wrote:
    Not being sarcastic, but I hardy hear or read anything about the outcry. Sure, I hear of one once in a blue moon, but not like it's described here.


    Why does there need to be a public outcry? If a Muslim American is law-obiding and honest, why does he or she need to actively campaign against the unlawful acts of others? I do agree that profiling the 78 year-old grandmother is a waste of time, but I don't think that nationalized Arabs owe a special duty of care to anybody. Why should they need to stand up and condemn their neighbours? Why is this their responsibility, anymore than it is ours?

    Just askin.
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    sliverstain wrote:
    How unconstructive. A waste of a post.

    My post discredited the source of the original, disgraceful 'report'.

    Please stay on topic. Sarcastic side swipes are really uncalled for given the current climate.

    Thank you!!
    sliverstain wrote:
    Its the NOTW for chrissake people. Don't waste time responding.

    You take that National Enquirer, throw in a dozen pages of soccer, and half a dozen pages of breasts and bikinis, you get the NOTW.

    And this was "CONSTRUCTIVE"??? Once again, your double standard is exposed!
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    sliverstain wrote:
    How unconstructive. A waste of a post.

    Then why respond?
    My post discredited the source of the original, disgraceful 'report'.

    Your post did nothing to discredit the source.
    Please stay on topic. Sarcastic side swipes are really uncalled for given the current climate.

    The topic of this thread is muslim responsibility.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    blueandwhite wrote:
    Why does there need to be a public outcry? If a Muslim American is law-obiding and honest, why does he or she need to actively campaign against the unlawful acts of others? I do agree that profiling the 78 year-old grandmother is a waste of time, but I don't think that nationalized Arabs owe a special duty of care to anybody. Why should they need to stand up and condemn their neighbours? Why is this their responsibility, anymore than it is ours?

    Just askin.

    Very nice.

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