Why?

jsand

Why are so many Pearl Jam fans Israel-haters. Why has this message board been turned into an anti-Israel forum. Why are there so many deliberate lies being posted about Jews on this site?

danmac

Why are you still here? You said you were leaving.

This is the second thread youve started like this.

Need the attention that much?

Where are these lies we've printed?

Come on, back up tyour weak pathitc, inane argument with fact.#

Still here, or you busy masturbating over your Zionist flag wrapped in the pictures of dead Palestinians?

rightondude

jsand wrote:

Why are so many Pearl Jam fans Israel-haters. Why has this message board been turned into an anti-Israel forum. Why are there so many deliberate lies being posted about Jews on this site?

Yes you poor innocent Israeli army guy you....

ilana

jsand wrote:

Why are so many Pearl Jam fans Israel-haters. Why has this message board been turned into an anti-Israel forum. Why are there so many deliberate lies being posted about Jews on this site?

its just the same age old jew hatred, somethings never change.

NCfan

danmac wrote:

Why are you still here? You said you were leaving.

This is the second thread youve started like this.

Need the attention that much?

Where are these lies we've printed?

Come on, back up tyour weak pathitc, inane argument with fact.#

Still here, or you busy masturbating over your Zionist flag wrapped in the pictures of dead Palestinians?

Have the mods contacted you about the shit you post? They should...

RockinInCanada

This is like me starting a thread "why are their actually PJ fans that hate Muslims"...please realize people here do not hate Israel...they hate their policies as they have proven no less hostile/violent than those used by radical militant groups....just as I see your views against Arabs I do not think your a racist or hate all Arabs...but it seems all your comments are your anti-Israel to everything that you do not agree with....its really getting tiresome....

RockinInCanada

ilana wrote:

its just the same age old jew hatred, somethings never change.

No its the same you don't agree with me we try to slander your name....complete utter B/S to say that people here hate Israel because they are against their policies...such a weak attempt to break down your opponent....its slanderous....

thankyougrandma

jsand wrote:

Why are so many Pearl Jam fans Israel-haters. Why has this message board been turned into an anti-Israel forum. Why are there so many deliberate lies being posted about Jews on this site?

nice try..........

fada

I don't agree with what Isreal are doing. Two of their soldiers were captured , it doesn't mean that they can kill hundreds over it.

sourdough

I have nothing against Jews, but I have a very poor opinion of Israel's military record.

binauralsounds

Jsand, don't leave. Fight the good fight brotha!

NCfan

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

This is like me starting a thread "why are their actually PJ fans that hate Muslims"...please realize people here do not hate Israel...they hate their policies as they have proven no less hostile/violent than those used by radical militant groups....just as I see your views against Arabs I do not think your a racist or hate all Arabs...but it seems all your comments are your anti-Israel to everything that you do not agree with....its really getting tiresome....

I guess it just seems ironic to Jsand and myself that so many on this forum get upset with Israel for trying to destroy Hizbollah.

It makes it seem as if you guys condone Hizbollah because you bitch when Israel tries to destroy it.

The question is - do you think Hizbollah has a right to exist? If you do, what should their penatly be when they murder and terrorize Israeli's? Where is the justice for innocent Israeli's?

But even further than that, one must realize that there is no penalty for Hizbollah. There is no way to exact punishment on them.

So it gets pretty frustrating when people point their finger at Israel for killing civillians in the process of tying to destroy Hizbollah. Becuase nobody here or anywhere else has a good plan or method to punish Hizbollah when they kill innocent Jews.

thankyougrandma

binauralsounds wrote:

Jsand, don't leave. Fight the good fight brotha!

haha

so cute...

ilana

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

No its the same you don't agree with me we try to slander your name....complete utter B/S to say that people here hate Israel because they are against their policies...such a weak attempt to break down your opponent....its slanderous....

what policie are we talking about, self deffence,
i know there are lebonese people suffering but who is really to blame for it
http://www.hirhome.co./israel/hezbollah.htm

RockinInCanada

NCfan wrote:

I guess it just seems ironic to Jsand and myself that so many on this forum get upset with Israel for trying to destroy Hizbollah.

It makes it seem as if you guys condone Hizbollah because you bitch when Israel tries to destroy it.

The question is - do you think Hizbollah has a right to exist? If you do, what should their penatly be when they murder and terrorize Israeli's? Where is the justice for innocent Israeli's?

But even further than that, one must realize that there is no penalty for Hizbollah. There is no way to exact punishment on them.

So it gets pretty frustrating when people point their finger at Israel for killing civillians in the process of tying to destroy Hizbollah. Becuase nobody here or anywhere else has a good plan or method to punish Hizbollah when they kill innocent Jews.

I have spoke harshly about both sides....Jsand is a perfect example of a someone who posts blantant support for one side...which he has every right to... but the majority of the posters here have spoken negatively for both sides...its just that some people cannot fathom any negativity to be said about Israel...and thats when people like yourself (why you wanna stand beside Jsand I dont know) get irrate....it seems you cannot handle critisicm about Israel....and the way people like you (which I really dont think you belong in that select group of posters) try to argue is childish...you hate Israel wah wah wah.....come up with something meaningful instead of wasting forum space calling people out for being liars and anti-semites....its a pathetic and unintelligent way to argue/discuss.......

El_Kabong

ilana wrote:

what policie are we talking about, self deffence,
i know there are lebonese people suffering but who is really to blame for it
http://www.hirhome.co./israel/hezbollah.htm

policies like throwing stun grenades in the middle of women and children who were peacefully protesting israel tearing down their olive trees...then after the idf beats and shoots at a bunch of them the idf attacks the ambulance as it is loading injured arabs into it...

policies like shooting tear gas at ppl holding a memorial for rachel corrie and shooting at them...

policies like letting israeli children throw rocks and punch arabs (in an occupied territory) while the idf just sits around and does nothing...

things like 7-10th graders writing letters to the idf saying things like 'open up your m-16 and kill as many arabs as you can! let all palestinians burn in hell where they all belong!!'

those kinds of policies. how is beating and shooting and spraying ppl w/ tear gas who were doing nothing wrong 'self-defense'???

fuck, ppl don't dislike israel b/c they have jews, get over it!

ok, from now on whenever anyone disagress w/ me i'll just say something absurd like 'you only say this b/c i am 1/2 italian and you obviously hate italians, you are a racist!!!!' see how absurd that sounds?

RockinInCanada

ilana wrote:

what policie are we talking about, self deffence,
i know there are lebonese people suffering but who is really to blame for it
http://www.hirhome.co./israel/hezbollah.htm

In this case both sides can now make a claim to self-defence...like I said before the evil actons of a few are causing death to the many who want to live normal lives....Israel RIGHT now is not innocent with their over-reactionary actions....just as Hezbollah isn't innocent for murdering innocents...but guess what...the IDF how many innocents have they killed lately...its sickening...both sides...

thankyougrandma

ilana wrote:

what policie are we talking about, self deffence,
i know there are lebonese people suffering but who is really to blame for it
http://www.hirhome.co./israel/hezbollah.htm

Don't make me laugh more, self defense? Again, if a terrorist is my neighbour, does that give the USA govt. the RIGHT to kill me? NO, they have the responsability to protect me first if they want to attack the terrorist house, clearly Israel haven't take care of their responsabilities so far and their intervention have already been labelled as war crimes, spare me the self defense bullshit. If you want to justify all these kills by self defense, it means that every rockets launch into Israel is justify by self defense from the Hezbollah, it's a sick way of thinking isn't it? They must stop (all groups involved) to bomb and kill civillians and they must stop to aim at civil infrastructure. A delivery truck is not a fucking exclusivity to terrorist, yet it seem to be, in the eye of the Israel army, yet the same can be said for Hezbollah, if they want to defend themselves, target the military objective, spare the civillians...

NCfan

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

I have spoke harshly about both sides....Jsand is a perfect example of a someone who posts blantant support for one side...which he has every right to... but the majority of the posters here have spoken negatively for both sides...its just that some people cannot fathom any negativity to be said about Israel...and thats when people like yourself (why you wanna stand beside Jsand I dont know) get irrate....it seems you cannot handle critisicm about Israel....and the way people like you (which I really dont think you belong in that select group of posters) try to argue is childish...you hate Israel wah wah wah.....come up with something meaningful instead of wasting forum space calling people out for being liars and anti-semites....its a pathetic and unintelligent way to argue/discuss.......

I hope you weren't refering to me about the manner in which I post, but whatever floats your boat.

I have problems with Israel too, but I understand that their is an end to their means. They are trying to kill of Hizbollah once and for all, or at the very least create a buffer zone of protection from them. I think Israel has every right to do this.

I think that is innocents get killed in Lebanon, then their blood is on the hands of Hizbollah. If they would leave Israel alone, their would be no reason for a response.

thankyougrandma

NCfan wrote:

I hope you weren't refering to me about the manner in which I post, but whatever floats your boat.

I have problems with Israel too, but I understand that their is an end to their means. They are trying to kill of Hizbollah once and for all, or at the very least create a buffer zone of protection from them. I think Israel has every right to do this.

I think that is innocents get killed in Lebanon, then their blood is on the hands of Hizbollah. If they would leave Israel alone, their would be no reason for a response.

Beirut is very far from the buffer zone...

sourdough

Does Israel really believe that even if they are successful at severely crippling Hezbollah, they will have a peaceful future? Don't you think that this may cause more support and more groups to arrise because for the second time their country has been bombed and had their civilians killed by Israel? Isn't this why Hezbollah started in the first place? I would love to think that once this is over, Hezbollah will be gone and Israel will be in peaceful harmony beside a rebuilt Lebanon, but this will only fan the flames of hate and create more extremism and potentially turn a peaceful country (Lebanon) into another pissed off rogue state.

Furthermore, Israel should be worried that the current Lebanese gov't will fall because of this. The current gov't, although week has been quite pro US, on decent terms with Israel and very westernised. If this gov't falls, I would assume radical shiite gov'ts will succeed which I'm sure is not a preferable situation for Israel's long term peace.