fox news guest: iran woud welcome u.s. invasion

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  • Well that is not what I am talking about.....but anyway Oilers game......


    Good...

    'Canes game..............
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    As much as I hate to say it...

    Jimmy Carter.

    The Iranian people need to make a stand. I'm pretty sure you would agree that we "can't help everyone..."

    Yes Jimmy Carter was a mess and yes I agree we can't help everyone nor do I want our country trying to help everyone.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I believe stupidest fucking beings may sometimes be confused with nicest fucking beings. It's relatively easy for folks from other countries to drag us through the mud simply because their respective countries do not have to intestinal fortitude to put themselves in the situations the United States does on a routine basis. Or maybe they don't possess the means? It's much easier for Americans to put up with the endless psychobabble about how evil we are because... Well, because we have all the balls to be concise about it(or atleast a vast majority of them). Most of those balls reside more often than not with no more than 50% of the country at that. We're a pretty unique country in that reguard seeing as most of the world considers our Democratic party slightly left of the Nazi's. And well, we all know how they feel about Republicans.

    Ok, I've gone too far.
    ...
    No... we're stupid.
    We made friends with shady characters in the past that has come back and bitten us in the ass... Usama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein... yet, we are doing the exact same thing today... President Musharaf of Pakistan, al Maliki of Iraq. Just because an asshole also happens to hate the same person you hate... it doesn't make him less of an asshole. It makes you the asshole for giving the guy guns that will eventually be pointed at your ass. That's not nice... that stupid.
    And we can go down a long list of characters from Batiste, Marcos, Norriega, Somosa, the Shah Of Iran... and we STILL haven't learned. We shovelled billions of our tax dollars... yours and mine... to these dicks because the said they would be against Communism or whatever they knew we wanted to hear. That is not being nice... that is being stupid.
    ...
    And yeah... we do a lot of nice things... but the stupid things are the ones that screw us... correction... screw our kids. What do you say... how about us being smart for a change? Quit buying friends with taxpayer dollars and weapons paid by tax dollars and earn the friendship of other nations. You cannot buy respect... for any amount. What you end up with is someone who disrespects you for being such a fool... but, know how easy it is to seperate a fool from his money. How about we command the respect of others by doing good deeds, with no strings attached?
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    And yeah... we do a lot of nice things... but the stupid things are the ones that screw us...

    This is all you had to say... And around and around it goes...


    By the way... I went to a club named Cosmo this weekend. They wouldn't let me in because I had Timberland's on. The pricks..
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • What?

    Oh, you're Canadian..

    I am saying there are many people towing the party line...meaning sticking with them regardless of the endless fuck-up's they do....hey I was a proud voting Liberal in Canada until I heard word of their fuck-ups and lies and turned my back from them last election.....regardless that they held many beliefs that I do...simply stating you acknowledge the mis-leading down by your government but still stick by them....to me it just opens more doors for future screw-ups....leaders should be punished for mis-leading the voters and as someone who may have voted for these people it would sicken me even more b/c I would feel betrayed and insulted that my vote went to someone dictating very crucial policy on half truths.....if you do not punish them or raise a stink they figure they can do whatever the hell they want to do...and to me the Bush Adminstration is a perfect example of that.....


    What does being Canadian have to do with this...other than being completley irrelevant to the conversation.....
  • I'm sure the administration is well aware of this. I'm even aware of it and I'm just a stupid citizen. Discussing unity with the Shias is one thing..... Discussing it with the Iranians is quite another. Until Ahmadinejad puts away his incoherent jihadist rants about the destruction of Israel we'll never talk to them about anything. That inherently makes them more dangerous to us. To suggest Iran, at this point in time, would be more of a solution than the United States during this process is just absurd.

    Ahmadinejad claims he is willing to help with Iraq. I know he sounds crazy as hell, but why not at least bring him to the table to clarify his intentions and gather data.

    Or we could just test our bombers against Iran’s new Tor-M1 anti-aircraft missiles they’ve just acquired from the Russians and take it from there…
  • Ahmadinejad claims he is willing to help with Iraq. I know he sounds crazy as hell, but why not at least bring him to the table to clarify his intentions and gather data.

    Or we could just test our bombers against Iran’s new Tor-M1 anti-aircraft missiles they’ve just acquired from the Russians and take it from there…


    First off, I'll test the American military against anything...
    I refuse to discuss a military seriously that was incapable of defeating the Iraqi army over a period of 8 years.

    And as for Ahmadinejad, read any book about Hitler. He'll win the Nobel Peace Prize in the next few years anyway. Why do we need clarification?
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • And to take on Iran....when 130,000 soldiers already cannot get the job done in Iraq...is a smart move?
    That really depends on what you think the job was...If the job was to decisvely defeat the enemies army and decapitate it's leadership, the military did that decisively yet again. They even managed to literally decapitate the leadership. Id call that a W. Where we went wrong is when the army, whose job it is to win battles, was turned into a police force. It isn't. And that's a political defeat, not a military one. If we were to come to blows with Iran's armed forces they would be defeated in very short order. Probably one day.
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