new 5 min. video on explosions at the WTC

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Yeah. I mean, seriously! The nation's military center came under attack via a passenger jet flying right into it. Can't imagine why it'd be considered a matter of national security at all.


    How can viewing the tapes from 9/11 harm national security?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    That type of national security sounds like national secrecy to me. A dirty little secrecy? I'm assuming the tapes have long been destroyed...
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I'm still waiting for the answers.

    Anything on the collapse of WTC 7 yet?
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  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Yeah. I mean, seriously! The nation's military center came under attack via a passenger jet flying right into it. Can't imagine why it'd be considered a matter of national security at all.

    uh, it already hit the pentagon,... tell me exactly why showing the impact would be a risk to national security?
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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    Magus wrote:
    The planes were traveling faster than cruising speed too, so that number can be increases, the buildings were most likely not designed for the planes to be going that speed either. Im pretty sure they were made to withstand a horrible accident on take off or landing.

    pretty amazing how guys who never flew jetliners before could fly them that fast and that accurately.

    if they were that good, why didn't they crash into the indian point power plant, which they flew directly over? the effects would have been much more deadly and long lasting.

    and why didn't the pilot on the pentagon plane dive right into rumsfelds office window, which they were heading straight towards? rather, the guy who was denied when trying to rent a cessna, flew over the pentagon, made an acrobatic 270 degree turn while diving 3000 feet - which caused air traffic controllers to believe it was a military jet - and slammed into the first floor of the pentagon at 500 mph, without placing a single scratch on the lawn. i guess he was just lucky, huh? i mean, how hard could it be to fly a 767 while facing your ultimate demise?
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  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm still waiting for the answers.

    Anything on the collapse of WTC 7 yet?

    NIST has not released their new report on WTC 7.
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    sonicreducer wrote:
    uh, it already hit the pentagon,... tell me exactly why showing the impact would be a risk to national security?
    Because it was the scene of an ongoing investigation? Find me a P.D. that'll let you walk into the scene of a crime and film away.

    Sounds like this page needs to be dug up again.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Because it was the scene of an ongoing investigation? Find me a P.D. that'll let you walk into the scene of a crime and film away.

    Sounds like this page needs to be dug up again.

    No one said shit about about filming the investigation. We are talking about tapes that already exist that could prove what did hit the pentagon. Now I'll ask again, how could airing these tapes harm security? A real answer please.
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    No one said shit about about filming the investigation.
    You're right--I didn't say shit about filming the investigation either. If you read my post properly, you'll see that I'm talking about film of an actual incident while the investigation into it was ongoing.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    dkst0426 wrote:
    You're right--I didn't say shit about filming the investigation either. If you read my post properly, you'll see that I'm talking about film of an actual incident while the investigation into it was ongoing.

    How would airing it hurt security?
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  • BUFFALO
    BUFFALO Posts: 760
    DPrival78 wrote:
    absolutely. and it was awfully scary seeing the 9/11 attacks happen on tv.

    now who has benefitted the most from that fear?

    osama?
    al-qaeda?
    military contractors?
    other factions who for decades have openly wished for things like wars in the middle east and a roll back of personal freedom?
    yup tv also feared Americans into the war with Iraq(weapons of mass destruction)... America needs money ...implement democracy ...appoint american assured officials to office ... in other words America takes over Iraq ...from behind the scenes that is


    and now they already started there mind control over ya with iran an korea

    in a couple of years or so you will be brainwashed so bad that u believe they are the BAD GUYS....its an easy sell IMO
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Magus wrote:
    Yup, our crazy govt is smart enough to pull of the biggest conspiracy in the history of the world...but we cant take control of iraq, seems logical...

    i don't believe they ever intended to create a stable government in Iraq. i've been saying from the start that they knew it would destablize the region, and that's what they wanted. they want war.
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    jlew24asu wrote:
    that "explosion" sound could have been any number of things.


    a slab of concrete falling onto a car, a gas tank exploding, a firemans oxygen tank exploding....

    but you believe it was a government bomb?


    2 of the tallest, heaviest structures man had ever built had just fallen to the ground. many things will be damaged in that area.

    this proves nothing and gives nobody anything to chew on.


    good points. it could be anything.
  • Trau
    Trau Posts: 188
    I don't understand how this debate is still going on.
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    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
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  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    Trau wrote:
    I don't understand how this debate is still going on.

    b/c there is not enough evidence to prove either way,... there is only a more accepted theory and more logical in most cases, but not all.
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  • Trau
    Trau Posts: 188
    There is quite enough evidence to show that this was not a government plot.
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  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    Trau wrote:
    There is quite enough evidence to show that this was not a government plot.

    there is enough evidence to show complicity. i can do the same thing.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm still waiting for the answers.

    Anything on the collapse of WTC 7 yet?


    well, when the head researcher from the nist was asked a year ago this month he replied:

    "We are studying the horizontal movement east to west, internal to the structure, on the fifth to seventh floors”; he added "But truthfully, I don’t really know. We’ve had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7".
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Trau
    Trau Posts: 188
    The nist?
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • Trau
    Trau Posts: 188
    sonicreducer wrote:
    there is enough evidence to show complicity. i can do the same thing.

    No, I'm afraid there isn't.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try

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