Nader is in

iwasthere

Just stop Ralph!

I think the guy comes from a good place. Most of us like to mix it up a little bit. But he is hurting America by doing this.

In 2000, I was convinced I was doing the right thing by voting for Nader. I was convinced that I couldn't vote from anyone from the 2 headed GOP/DNC monster.

I don't know what people were thinking if they voted for him in 2004.

But, for the first time since I have been an adult, there is a canidate out there who inspires people. A canidate who can get the house and the senate to cross party lines and work together. That is THE most important thing to me when I vote.

As far as Nader, he started this late in 2004 as well.

kenny olav

KosmicJelli wrote:

Well he's friggen pissing me off... I have voted for this man in the past...
pulls this out of his ass 8 months before the election... people want damn change.. he could have built more steam behind himself had he annouced earlier..

well, when he ran for President in 2000, he announced his candidacy in February, and I believe he did the same in 2004. i don't question his timing... especially when it's an independent run. but i do question his candidacy this time around, because i think its beyond ridiculous. maybe he idolizes Eugene Debs too much, because that guy ran for President 5 times... so I guess that means we'll see Nader 2012 as well?

binauralsounds

This guy's a putz. Waits all this time and then says hell with it.. he's throwin his hat in. Where has he been? He's just gonna fuck it up for the Dems again. lol

Well, least Ed has a candidate in the race now. LMAO!!!!!!

kenny olav

LukinFan wrote:

not really

really tho, the green party does have something to do with weed.


these are the last three statements on their platform for Criminal Justice:

28. We call for decriminalization of victimless crimes. For example, the possession of small amounts of marijuana.

29. We call for legalization of industrial hemp and all its many uses.

30. We call for an end to the "war on drugs." We support expanded drug counseling and treatment.

doesn't go far enough for me. people should be able to grow the stuff in their back yards without any regulation.

but anyway, i know what your're saying, because marijuana is not one of their major issues. not even close. (i served on the communications committee of the Massachusetts Green Party for a little while, and drug laws were never discussed)

KosmicJelli

that is what i meant by not being conventional...

always starting late... blah blah blah.. what its come down too..

he's lost my faith


i remember 2000 vote and 2004 vote....

its gettin old...

Eliot Rosewater

long red wrote:

this guy is a fucking joke.

anyone who votes for him probably thinks "green party" has something to do with weed.

"You are an ignorant motherfucker and shouldn't be allowed to vote." --David Cross

beachdweller

yoke wrote:

Uh oh.... you know the Dems are squirming now......



I think that Mike Bloomberg is still considering a run for it.

why would dem's squirm? Nadar has no influence at all right now. Dem's have learned, that's why Kucinich was ignored.

Barak will get 60% of the vote, McCain has no chance at being President. His support of Bush 2001 - 2006 when Republicans were abusing their power, he went along. No longer the Maverick, just another Bush croney.

Eliot Rosewater

flywallyfly wrote:

Nader has lost it. I predict no one will talk about him after a couple of days. Getting enough signatures to appear on the state ballots -- no way this time. I used to like Nader but now I almost feel sorry for him. There are many ways to get out his message than run for president every 4 years.

Tell me one person that's running who would actually be a better president than Nader. There are millions who think he'd do the best job but they're fucking pussies with their votes and don't dare to do the right thing.

"I used to like Nader"..??? What the fuck is that? Nader has and always will stand for the same things - Honesty, integrity, working hard to keep Americans truly safe and well. If you "used to like" him and now don't then I can only assume that your values have changed because he's always stuck to his guns.

I've concluded that 99% of the people who think "Nader has lost it" are just plain fucking ignorant and know very little about him. Stop watching fox fucking news and pay attention to what he's done and pay attention to what he stands for.

Eliot Rosewater

KosmicJelli wrote:

that is what i meant by not being conventional...

always starting late... blah blah blah.. what its come down too..

he's lost my faith


i remember 2000 vote and 2004 vote....

its gettin old...

Wouldn't most of us here agree that "conventional" isn't really what's the best for this nation? Jesus, people, wake up already. Conventional? You cannot be serious.

Eliot Rosewater

DaytimeDilemma wrote:

Nader is a moron. What the hell is wrong with this man?

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5217936&postcount=27

LukinFan

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

"You are an ignorant motherfucker and shouldn't be allowed to vote." --David Cross

LOVE the quote- David Cross is the man!

orig_long red

puhhhlease. this twitchy motherfucker shouldnt me allowed anywhere near a democracy.

i wouldnt trust him with a dry cleaners.

Eliot Rosewater

LukinFan wrote:

LOVE the quote- David Cross is the man!

He really is the man. And it's exactly how I feel a lot of the time...just had to make sure to give him credit for it so it's not coming directly from me...

DriftingByTheStorm

Its curious when the same people who at times rail against the 2 party system, saying it is rigged false choices then go to town yelling at a man for wanting to run 3rd party.

Wether you think he is a joke or not, or wether you think he is hurting "your" parties chance at winning (i assure you, the dems will have no problem -- shy of vote fraud -- winning this election) ... it is HIS CHOICE to run if he fucking wants to.

Sheesh.

Capricorn Sister

Would you consider voting for Ralph Nader for president?
No 74%
Yes 26%

Total Votes: 90,385

Do you think Nader's bid could affect the outcome of the presidential race?
Yes 61%
No 39%

Total Votes: 87,118

NOTE: Poll results are not scientific and reflect the opinions of only those users who chose to participate. Poll results are not reflected in real time.

flywallyfly

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

Tell me one person that's running who would actually be a better president than Nader. There are millions who think he'd do the best job but they're fucking pussies with their votes and don't dare to do the right thing.

"I used to like Nader"..??? What the fuck is that? Nader has and always will stand for the same things - Honesty, integrity, working hard to keep Americans truly safe and well. If you "used to like" him and now don't then I can only assume that your values have changed because he's always stuck to his guns.

I've concluded that 99% of the people who think "Nader has lost it" are just plain fucking ignorant and know very little about him. Stop watching fox fucking news and pay attention to what he's done and pay attention to what he stands for.

Did you even read my statement? I love his message BUT maybe he should try another way to get it out !!!!!!!!!!! BTW - I dont watch Fox news and I am liberal. Having stated that all I have to say is maybe you are an ignorant fuckstick who should stick his tongue up Nader's ass. Have a good day.

KosmicJelli

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Its curious when the same people who at times rail against the 2 party system, saying it is rigged false choices then go to town yelling at a man for wanting to run 3rd party.

Wether you think he is a joke or not, or wether you think he is hurting "your" parties chance at winning (i assure you, the dems will have no problem -- shy of vote fraud -- winning this election) ... it is HIS CHOICE to run if he fucking wants to.

Sheesh.

I agree... but he's getting old with this crap... he should have been working on being president the moment he lost his first race... is reason why im starting to find it suspicious, he is the candidate for the green party, he should be working on it full force and with serious dedication... almost like on some fucking whim and out of some manic need he shows up and decides to be president...

he has been given enough years and plenty of time since his "safety belt" parade to become a unique force in our "democratic" process...

yoke

beachdweller wrote:

why would dem's squirm? Nadar has no influence at all right now. Dem's have learned, that's why Kucinich was ignored.

Barak will get 60% of the vote, McCain has no chance at being President. His support of Bush 2001 - 2006 when Republicans were abusing their power, he went along. No longer the Maverick, just another Bush croney.

I agree with you, but the problem is that the Dems will all say that he is taking votes away from them and if they do lose then it will be his fault. I would tend to agree with you about Barak taking the election but I don't think that its going to be a runaway victory. I think its going to be closer than people realize. Just my opinion though.

Personaly I would really like to see a strong 3rd candidate but I don't think Nader is the one.

gimmesometruth27

i never forgave nader for what happened in 2000.

why is he running now? he has no chance to win at all. even less of a chance than fuckabee. he won't even be on the ballot in all of the states so what is he trying to do? fuck nader. he is irrelevent. if he steals enough votes from the dem candidate, it might be close enough where the supreme court has to step in again, and we all know they will favor mccain.

i think nader is going to be embarrassed in this camapaign. just watch, he will have trouble getting on the ballot in some states and i doubt he will even be invited to debate. i think he will be mostly ignored by the american people.

Commy

Democracy is not choosing between 2 corporate candidates that will continue down basically the same path. Having an alternative to them is...if enough people were not so willing to settle for the who they hate less we could put someone other than an individual who will cater to corporate interests in the whitehouse.