Radical Muslim regimes

IWishIWasASailor

They have told us what they are going to do. They are hell bent on destruction and taking over the modern world. Their first step is taking back Israel. After Israel they are going for modern Europe and then even further West. Are we as a people strong enough to face that threat?
This isn't a Republican/Democrat issue, this is a United States issue. They want us DEAD and they will do anything to bait us into full scale war.
Are we so politically correct as a nation now that we can't even admit the obvious? At this precise moment they are baiting the British Government and playing a game of chicken. When is enough enough? When do people realize that no matter what President Bush decided we already were engaged in full scale war against these radical Muslims?
Munich/911/Pan Am/Yemen/Madrid/Tehran hostage incident and countless other acts of mass violence have shown us the blueprint of what they will do.

Why are people so against President Bush that they are seemingly starting to sympathize and forget the threat against their own lives? These Radical Muslims want ALL of us dead. There is no sympathy for any of us. I'm so scared at the current culture in America. I believe that people are so against the war in Iraq that they are missing the real story here. Hope I'm wrong.

sj.brodie

Personally, i believe the way the media portrays Muslims in Britain is wrong and unjustified, and that this demonising of Muslims also present in the US is turning Western culture against them. Every day on my way to work i read articles talking about 'Muslim death squads roaming our streets' preparing for their next attack. How many of these 'red-alert' terrorist operations actually happen? Possibly the most sick example of this was an article i read explaining a 'likely' act of mass murder devised by Muslims on British civilians on Christmas day. This of course did NOT happen. Society here in Britain is breaking down and becoming a dark and miserable place to live by becoming a slave to all this bullshit. The so called 'threat' from Islamic extremists is insignificant compared with our failed foreign policy which has been reponsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians and created an effective recruiting agent for Islamic extremism. It depresses me that people don't realise this. People should stop being so fucking ignorant.

Alex_Coe

The OP is dead on. Muslims hate us and everything we stand for... although I wouldn't say war is the answer. We could fuck those saudis economically if we wanted to.

The answer is to lessen our dependance on oil, and simultaneously open up Alaska for drilling. Alaska has an assload of oil. When we stop buying saudi oil, the saudi's won't be making so much money -or any money. That would be sweet.

"Well, hey saudi royal family! We won't be needing any oil from ya this month... or ever again. We decided to open up Alaska to drilling (thumbs up) so now we have all the oil we need for the next 150 years. So go back to your sand hut, we're not giving you any more money. Bye Bye... I hope you like poverty."

Ha Ha Ha, boy am I great.

LikeAnOcean

IWishIWasASailor wrote:

Hope I'm wrong.

You probably are. Have you ever meet a Muslim who hated you?.. Sure there's a handful of them, maybe two handfuls, but trust me, they will never take over the world.

Alex_Coe

LikeAnOcean wrote:

You probably are. Have you ever meet a Muslim who hated you?.. Sure there's a handful of them, maybe two handfuls, but trust me, they will never take over the world.

The radicals live in the Middle East, I'm sure.

Specifics

Alex_Coe wrote:

"Well, hey saudi royal family! We won't be needing any oil from ya this month... or ever again. We decided to open up Alaska to drilling (thumbs up) so now we have all the oil we need for the next 150 years. So go back to your sand hut, we're not giving you any more money. Bye Bye... I hope you like poverty."

Ha Ha Ha, boy am I great.

" well fuck you America, we already have plenty of funds to be going on with and we own roughly 10 percent of your Economy, lets see who struggles most"

boy you're not even average

Alex_Coe

Specifics wrote:

" well fuck you America, we already have plenty of funds to be going on with and we own roughly 10 percent of your Economy, lets see who struggles most"

boy you're not even average

But they would suffer more... I think. Don't we buy ~40% of their oil?

Kann

Alex_Coe wrote:

But they would suffer more... I think. Don't we buy ~40% of their oil?

I think it's because of the friendly ties between the us and saudi arabia, there is a country far east looking for very large amounts of oil and I doubt any oil producing country would lack demand in the next few years. Even with the alaska magic trick.
To the threadstarter, you stated the dangers in your post but not what you think should be done.

Specifics

Alex_Coe wrote:

But they would suffer more... I think. Don't we buy ~40% of their oil?

"fuck off america, if you think we'd have any trouble selling oil then you're even more stupid than the world thinks you are"

spiral out

sj.brodie wrote:

Personally, i believe the way the media portrays Muslims in Britain is wrong and unjustified, and that this demonising of Muslims also present in the US is turning Western culture against them. Every day on my way to work i read articles talking about 'Muslim death squads roaming our streets' preparing for their next attack. How many of these 'red-alert' terrorist operations actually happen? Possibly the most sick example of this was an article i read explaining a 'likely' act of mass murder devised by Muslims on British civilians on Christmas day. This of course did NOT happen. Society here in Britain is breaking down and becoming a dark and miserable place to live by becoming a slave to all this bullshit. The so called 'threat' from Islamic extremists is insignificant compared with our failed foreign policy which has been reponsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians and created an effective recruiting agent for Islamic extremism. It depresses me that people don't realise this. People should stop being so fucking ignorant.

You tell it exactly like it is, but people are buying into the bullsxxt their feed from the news. They are unable to think for themselves unfortunatly.

El_Kabong

Alex_Coe wrote:

The OP is dead on. Muslims hate us and everything we stand for... although I wouldn't say war is the answer. We could fuck those saudis economically if we wanted to.

The answer is to lessen our dependance on oil, and simultaneously open up Alaska for drilling. Alaska has an assload of oil. When we stop buying saudi oil, the saudi's won't be making so much money -or any money. That would be sweet.

"Well, hey saudi royal family! We won't be needing any oil from ya this month... or ever again. We decided to open up Alaska to drilling (thumbs up) so now we have all the oil we need for the next 150 years. So go back to your sand hut, we're not giving you any more money. Bye Bye... I hope you like poverty."

Ha Ha Ha, boy am I great.

actually, something as simple as raising the fuel efficiency standard on new automobiles just 3 more miles to the gallon would save more oil than even the best estiamtes of what is in Alaska....

Rushlimbo

Alex_Coe wrote:

"Well, hey saudi royal family! We won't be needing any oil from ya this month... or ever again. We decided to open up Alaska to drilling (thumbs up) so now we have all the oil we need for the next 150 years. So go back to your sand hut, we're not giving you any more money. Bye Bye... I hope you like poverty."

Ha Ha Ha, boy am I great.

I'm guessing you dont realize China and India would suck up that oil from Saudi Arabia in a heartbeat. They have double digit economic growth every year.

fuck

I think the real solution is to stop absorbing all the bullshit the media is giving you, and start thinking independently. No, Muslims don't want everyone dead. I also like how you would give examples of "muslims killing israelis" and you just happened to leave off all the muslims being killed and imprisoned by US and israel.

Alex_Coe

Rushlimbo wrote:

I'm guessing you dont realize China and India would suck up that oil from Saudi Arabia in a heartbeat. They have double digit economic growth every year.

Now I know...

BTW I didn't hear that "information" on the news, I heard it from my tech teacher. Mr. Jordy is the smartest man who ever lived... sorta.

pjfanatic4

IWishIWasASailor wrote:

This isn't a Republican/Democrat issue, this is a United States issue. They want us DEAD and they will do anything to bait us into full scale war.

Why are people so against President Bush that they are seemingly starting to sympathize and forget the threat against their own lives? These Radical Muslims want ALL of us dead. There is no sympathy for any of us. I'm so scared at the current culture in America. I believe that people are so against the war in Iraq that they are missing the real story here. Hope I'm wrong.

Yeah... just keep drinking that kool-aid.

Never mind the atrocities that the US or Brittain have done throughout history in other parts of the world. It's all about controlling the resources. If you control the resource, you have the upper hand. The rest falls into place.

The US is not doing anything different than any other world power did at some point in history.

MrBrian

pjfanatic4 wrote:

Yeah... just keep drinking that kool-aid.

Never mind the atrocities that the US or Brittain have done throughout history in other parts of the world. It's all about controlling the resources. If you control the resource, you have the upper hand. The rest falls into place.

The US is not doing anything different than any other world power did at some point in history.

I disagree with that last part...I would say that America controls her propaganda much better than any of other world powers did in the past. that perhaps is the only difference.

otherwise everything else you said about the kool-aid, atrocities and whatever else is all correct.

Cosmo

IWishIWasASailor wrote:

They have told us what they are going to do. They are hell bent on destruction and taking over the modern world. Their first step is taking back Israel. After Israel they are going for modern Europe and then even further West. Are we as a people strong enough to face that threat?
This isn't a Republican/Democrat issue, this is a United States issue. They want us DEAD and they will do anything to bait us into full scale war.
Are we so politically correct as a nation now that we can't even admit the obvious? At this precise moment they are baiting the British Government and playing a game of chicken. When is enough enough? When do people realize that no matter what President Bush decided we already were engaged in full scale war against these radical Muslims?
Munich/911/Pan Am/Yemen/Madrid/Tehran hostage incident and countless other acts of mass violence have shown us the blueprint of what they will do.

Why are people so against President Bush that they are seemingly starting to sympathize and forget the threat against their own lives? These Radical Muslims want ALL of us dead. There is no sympathy for any of us. I'm so scared at the current culture in America. I believe that people are so against the war in Iraq that they are missing the real story here. Hope I'm wrong.

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How about placing blame where it lays... not where we want it to lay?
Ask yourself... 'Why don't the 'Radical muslims' want to erradicate the Chinese?" The Chinese aren't muslims... why don't they want to 'Take over' Asia?
Maybe it's because the Chinese aren't in their political arena, trying to influence their leaders to regard Chinese intrests above their own. Something we should try doing... steering clear of political/military influence in the Middle East.
And as for blame... is it their fault that we are addicted to their oil? Why shouldn't they just increase the price to the Western addicts, the same way a heroin dealer raises the price on his junkies?
Maybe if we let THEM set the pricing and just pay whatever they want for it... we would have weened ourselves out of foriegn dependencies and focused our innovation and technology on geting away from fossil fuels as a primary energy source. America has been 'talking' about our oil addiction since 1973... and we haven't done shit since then. We are partial to blame, we are not completely innocent.
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And as for those who advocate dilling the Alaskan Strategic Reserves so they can continue their wasteful addiction to driving through take out windows because they are too fucking lazy to walk anywhere... it's called a 'Strategic' reserve for a reason. The Military will NEED to fuel our machines in case a huge war breaks out and we can no longer depend on foriegn oil. How are we supposed to fight a war against a China or Russia... if they have all the fuel?
So, maybe YOU would rather risk our strategic resource just so you can continue to be a lazy fuck... I'm not.

NCfan

Cosmo wrote:

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How about placing blame where it lays... not where we want it to lay?
Ask yourself... 'Why don't the 'Radical muslims' want to erradicate the Chinese?" The Chinese aren't muslims... why don't they want to 'Take over' Asia?
Maybe it's because the Chinese aren't in their political arena, trying to influence their leaders to regard Chinese intrests above their own. Something we should try doing... steering clear of political/military influence in the Middle East.
And as for blame... is it their fault that we are addicted to their oil? Why shouldn't they just increase the price to the Western addicts, the same way a heroin dealer raises the price on his junkies?
Maybe if we let THEM set the pricing and just pay whatever they want for it... we would have weened ourselves out of foriegn dependencies and focused our innovation and technology on geting away from fossil fuels as a primary energy source. America has been 'talking' about our oil addiction since 1973... and we haven't done shit since then. We are partial to blame, we are not completely innocent.
...
And as for those who advocate dilling the Alaskan Strategic Reserves so they can continue their wasteful addiction to driving through take out windows because they are too fucking lazy to walk anywhere... it's called a 'Strategic' reserve for a reason. The Military will NEED to fuel our machines in case a huge war breaks out and we can no longer depend on foriegn oil. How are we supposed to fight a war against a China or Russia... if they have all the fuel?
So, maybe YOU would rather risk our strategic resource just so you can continue to be a lazy fuck... I'm not.

LOL, cause the chinese would fuck them up that's why. And you think the U.S. doesn't give a shit about world opinion...

Plus, the Chinese aren't viable scapegoats. But don't kid yourself, they are bullies where they need to be in this world.

inmytree

IWishIWasASailor wrote:

They have told us what they are going to do. They are hell bent on destruction and taking over the modern world. Their first step is taking back Israel. After Israel they are going for modern Europe and then even further West. Are we as a people strong enough to face that threat?
This isn't a Republican/Democrat issue, this is a United States issue. They want us DEAD and they will do anything to bait us into full scale war.
Are we so politically correct as a nation now that we can't even admit the obvious? At this precise moment they are baiting the British Government and playing a game of chicken. When is enough enough? When do people realize that no matter what President Bush decided we already were engaged in full scale war against these radical Muslims?
Munich/911/Pan Am/Yemen/Madrid/Tehran hostage incident and countless other acts of mass violence have shown us the blueprint of what they will do.

Why are people so against President Bush that they are seemingly starting to sympathize and forget the threat against their own lives? These Radical Muslims want ALL of us dead. There is no sympathy for any of us. I'm so scared at the current culture in America. I believe that people are so against the war in Iraq that they are missing the real story here. Hope I'm wrong.

well, sign the fuck up and get on with it...

Cosmo

NCfan wrote:

LOL, cause the chinese would fuck them up that's why. And you think the U.S. doesn't give a shit about world opinion...

Plus, the Chinese aren't viable scapegoats. But don't kid yourself, they are bullies where they need to be in this world.

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I'm not making the Chinese a scapegoat... I'm asking why the 'Radical Muslims that want to Take Over The World' don't regard China as this big enemy. Why is it us? It's probably because China isn't over there, buying Middle Eastern leaders, who end up oppressing the people with the weapons we provide them. And you can bet, if China were doing it instead of us... there would be a Jihad against Beijing instead of Washington.
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And you claim the Muslims don't hate the Chinese because they're afraid the Chinese will 'Fuck them up'? Where does that reasoning come from? Because of Tienimen Square? Who has China 'Fucked up', other than pacifist Buddhist monks and unarmed dissident students? What military has Red China ever taken on?
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Chinese and Muslims aside... who's fault is it that we are addicted to oil? You act as if we are minding our own business and for no reason... other than we read the Bible... the Muslims want to exterminate us. If we were minding our own business, we would just buy their fucking oil and say, "Thanx, assholes..." and be on our merry way. Why can't you even admit that we are part of the problem?

OutOfBreath

I should introduce the OP to a funny political party in Norway who label themselves "the Democrats" (absolutely no relation to the american party of the same name). It consists mostly of xenophobics and outright racists (after my judgement) formed after our right-wing populist party started cleaning up their act and kicked them out.

Apart from them being against all immigration (especially of foreign looking people of course) they come up with some great ideas sometimes.

1. Divide prisons into ethnically norwegian and foreign departments, so the upstanding norwegian criminals don't get the foreigner's bad influences. And as the clincher imigrants with clean police records can get jobs guarding these new foreign prisons!

2. A mosque in my hometown was closing down and moving to new quarters. But the local authorities closed their old place before the new was ready because of the building standard. The muslims felt that was uncalled for and "threatened" to hold their prayer in the town square instead as a protest. One democrat promptly stepped up and suggested to hang pig carcasses all over the town square amped up with loud speakers with pig squeals. (Because muslims are afraid of pigs, as we well know.) Our town square is also supposedly our sacred ground as well :rolleyes:

On a sidenote, many commented that the muslims were bitching and whining against the authorities like true Norwegians, so they are obviously well integrated. A couple of them were also members of the Labour Party, but withdrew as a further protest.

OP, know that this is the kind of people you are aligning yourself with here.

I find them a laugh, and I thank whatever gods that they never draw more than 4-5000 votes nationwide at elections.

Peace
Dan