since you obviously don't look at the previous posts; i copied this from post #18.
if you had brain surgery with complications which resulted in a seizure disorder that cannot be managed because it was due to a brain bleed; you'd receive medicare too whether you paid taxes or not. at the time; i was making approximately $1600/week so i'm getting a nice monthly check. the money put into trusts is/was AFTER TAX MONEY. the organization i own now is a "non-profit" organization which means profits are moved around. since it's a ranch i have to live here to "watch over" things so all my expenses are paid by the organization and tax deductable. thus; i show no income. along with all the agricultural deductions ranches are allowed.
chances are that i've paid more in taxes prior to my surgery than you'll make in your entire life. i deserve what i receive.
this applies here too. so thanks for the monthly checks. oh; and the medical insurance.
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Then, why all the bitching about Healthcare for others? I mean, you are obviously benefitting from a Government funded (taxpayer) system... why shouldn't some poor black kid in the city? Is it because he isn't able to spend $50,000.00 on a truck and write it off as a business expense? Or because he doesn't have $250,000.00 to give to a charity.. then, not give to that charity and give it to another charity for the deductions?
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Also... I would think that if you have $250,000.00 to give to one charity... I would also believe that you have enough money to quit welching off the backs of hard working Americans and pay for your own health insurance.
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I mean... if I had the money that you have to toss around... I wouldn't burden my fellow Americans with my expenses.
But... that's just me.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Then, why all the bitching about Healthcare for others? I mean, you are obviously benefitting from a Government funded (taxpayer) system... why shouldn't some poor black kid in the city? Is it because he isn't able to spend $50,000.00 on a truck and write it off as a business expense? Or because he doesn't have $250,000.00 to give to a charity.. then, not give to that charity and give it to another charity for the deductions?
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Also... I would think that if you have $250,000.00 to give to one charity... I would also believe that you have enough money to quit welching off the backs of hard working Americans and pay for your own health insurance.
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I mean... if I had the money that you have to toss around... I wouldn't burden my fellow Americans with my expenses.
But... that's just me.
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Then, why all the bitching about Healthcare for others? I mean, you are obviously benefitting from a Government funded (taxpayer) system... why shouldn't some poor black kid in the city? Is it because he isn't able to spend $50,000.00 on a truck and write it off as a business expense? Or because he doesn't have $250,000.00 to give to a charity.. then, not give to that charity and give it to another charity for the deductions?
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Also... I would think that if you have $250,000.00 to give to one charity... I would also believe that you have enough money to quit welching off the backs of hard working Americans and pay for your own health insurance.
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I mean... if I had the money that you have to toss around... I wouldn't burden my fellow Americans with my expenses.
But... that's just me.
this reminds me... didnt this guy once go "underground" to escape the feds cos he was wanted? but, of course, he first announced to the entire board that he was doing so?
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Then, why all the bitching about Healthcare for others? I mean, you are obviously benefitting from a Government funded (taxpayer) system... why shouldn't some poor black kid in the city? Is it because he isn't able to spend $50,000.00 on a truck and write it off as a business expense? Or because he doesn't have $250,000.00 to give to a charity.. then, not give to that charity and give it to another charity for the deductions?
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Also... I would think that if you have $250,000.00 to give to one charity... I would also believe that you have enough money to quit welching off the backs of hard working Americans and pay for your own health insurance.
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I mean... if I had the money that you have to toss around... I wouldn't burden my fellow Americans with my expenses.
But... that's just me.
i had a contract with social security. i pay them 16% of my income for my entire working life; and in return; they give me a percentage back. it was great in the good o'l 60's and early 70's when social security had a limit so i didn't have to "pay in" the last 5 months of the year; but that was their rule; so i kept my part of the contract.
HOWEVER; i pay $101.00/month for medicare. it isn't free as you seem to think. the bloke from MA said he has to buy insurance for about $100/month so how is that any different?
FURTHERMORE; the poor black kid in the inner city qualifies for medicaid. anyone who cannot afford insurance gets public medical care. that poor black kid also gets welfare and food stamps.
IN CONCLUSION; i'd like to know what the hell are you talking about?
this reminds me... didnt this guy once go "underground" to escape the feds cos he was wanted? but, of course, he first announced to the entire board that he was doing so?
i told the board after the fact. and i wasn't wanted. the person who stole my identity was wanted.
i had a contract with social security. i pay them 16% of my income for my entire working life; and in return; they give me a percentage back. it was great in the good o'l 60's and early 70's when social security had a limit so i didn't have to "pay in" the last 5 months of the year; but that was their rule; so i kept my part of the contract.
HOWEVER; i pay $101.00/month for medicare. it isn't free as you seem to think. the bloke from MA said he has to buy insurance for about $100/month so how is that any different?
FURTHERMORE; the poor black kid in the inner city qualifies for medicaid. anyone who cannot afford insurance gets public medical care. that poor black kid also gets welfare and food stamps.
IN CONCLUSION; i'd like to know what the hell are you talking about?
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Here's what the Hell I'm talking about...
I find it contradictary to incessantly bitch about government programs while taking advantage of the very same systems you complain about.
I also find it contradictary to continually brag about how you are using loopholes in the tax system to avoid paying any taxes, then use taxpayer systems for your own good.
Obviously, you do not.
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And so what if the poor black kid gets Federal, State and county services? You get them, too. What? You want Welfare and Food Stamps just because he gets them? I'm talking about providing basic health care for ALL Americans... not just the ones who can afford it.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Here's what the Hell I'm talking about...
I find it contradictary to incessantly bitch about government programs while taking advantage of the very same systems you complain about.
I also find it contradictary to continually brag about how you are using loopholes in the tax system to avoid paying any taxes, then use taxpayer systems for your own good.
Obviously, you do not.
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And so what if the poor black kid gets Federal, State and county services? You get them, too. What? You want Welfare and Food Stamps just because he gets them? I'm talking about providing basic health care for ALL Americans... not just the ones who can afford it.
first of all; if people don't use the loopholes provided by law; they're idiots.
second; i don't brag; i state fact as it pertains to a thread.
third; i'm not taking from the government. if i live to 120; it'll still be money i paid into the system. when bill gates reaches 70, he'll get the same medicare benefits i receive. somehow you seem to think social security is only for the poor when it's the working class that pays into it.
forth; i PAY for medicare. it isn't free. it isn't any different than your employer providing you with health insurance. my having been a government employee has nothing to do with it; although it was the government that retired me; due to medical reasons.
fifth; i don't want or need welfare or foodstamps. i wouldn't qualify because of my holdings. they'd tell me to sell some land or a house. however; the poor little black kid is covered by medical insurance and does get welfare and food stamps without having to pay anything into the system. so does the illegal who sneeks over the border to birth an american citizen. they're getting money I paid into the system and i should have a say in that.
sixth; i've never committed a crime except to smoke pot. anything i've done has been legal and under the advice of an attorney. we have a saying; any man who represents himself has a jackass for an attorney. (SS could learn something here). the IRS clearly states that you must pay taxes on income. if you don't show any income, what do you pay tax on? NOTHING. you don't have to file. not even to tell them you didn't have any income. also; nevada doesn't have personal or business taxes. so as far as my state goes; if they don't have taxes, i have nothing to pay. only property taxes.
i recently read about the democratic debates in las vegas and couldn't believe what i read. first; the issue of illegals obtaining drivers licenses. drivers licenses are a state matter and the federal government cannot interfere with state matters so the issue is moot. next; is universal healthcare. "Clinton charged that Obama's health care plan isn't truly universal because it doesn't require people to buy insurance."
so if everyone is required to buy insurance; how is it universal healthcare?
now; if we're going to have universal healthcare for americans; won't non-americans, ie: those who don't qualify; have to be rooted out. this again will bring crys of discrimination and as always; the government will buckle and offer healthcare for those here illegally. not one candidate mentioned where this money will come from. it won't come from the rich. we have too many loopholes and profits can be reinvested via trusts.
so; here's my question: does anybody believe these clowns?
I sure don't believe any of them. They are all lying greedy bastards whose opinions are formed by large companies that give them money.
But the sad thing is that is all we have got to choose from, so just find the one you dislike the least and vote for him/her.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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first of all; if people don't use the loopholes provided by law; they're idiots.
second; i don't brag; i state fact as it pertains to a thread.
third; i'm not taking from the government. if i live to 120; it'll still be money i paid into the system. when bill gates reaches 70, he'll get the same medicare benefits i receive. somehow you seem to think social security is only for the poor when it's the working class that pays into it.
forth; i PAY for medicare. it isn't free. it isn't any different than your employer providing you with health insurance. my having been a government employee has nothing to do with it; although it was the government that retired me; due to medical reasons.
fifth; i don't want or need welfare or foodstamps. i wouldn't qualify because of my holdings. they'd tell me to sell some land or a house. however; the poor little black kid is covered by medical insurance and does get welfare and food stamps without having to pay anything into the system. so does the illegal who sneeks over the border to birth an american citizen. they're getting money I paid into the system and i should have a say in that.
sixth; i've never committed a crime except to smoke pot. anything i've done has been legal and under the advice of an attorney. we have a saying; any man who represents himself has a jackass for an attorney. (SS could learn something here). the IRS clearly states that you must pay taxes on income. if you don't show any income, what do you pay tax on? NOTHING. you don't have to file. not even to tell them you didn't have any income. also; nevada doesn't have personal or business taxes. so as far as my state goes; if they don't have taxes, i have nothing to pay. only property taxes.
any other questions?
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One last question...
Why are you so filled with contempt?
I mean... I thought you were on death's doorstep... a couple of 6 months ago. I guess we are completely different people. Instead of bitching about some poor kid who is too poor to add to the Socal Security pot... and getting some of 'YOUR' money... I don't know... I would think you would cut the kid a little slack. Guess not.
I just hope that when I'm on my death bed... money is the least of my concerns.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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One last question...
Why are you so filled with contempt?
I mean... I thought you were on death's doorstep... a couple of 6 months ago. I guess we are completely different people. Instead of bitching about some poor kid who is too poor to add to the Socal Security pot... and getting some of 'YOUR' money... I don't know... I would think you would cut the kid a little slack. Guess not.
I just hope that when I'm on my death bed... money is the least of my concerns.
that's so un-american it makes me sick. :rolleyes: john wayne is rolling in his grave.
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One last question...
Why are you so filled with contempt?
I mean... I thought you were on death's doorstep... a couple of 6 months ago. I guess we are completely different people. Instead of bitching about some poor kid who is too poor to add to the Socal Security pot... and getting some of 'YOUR' money... I don't know... I would think you would cut the kid a little slack. Guess not.
I just hope that when I'm on my death bed... money is the least of my concerns.
on august 1st; i was diagnosed with bladder cancer. i was then told that the cancer is heeled; but there's still internal bleeding; and polyps. if the bleeding is from my kidneys; it could indicate kidney cancer. 2/3 of the town donated blood for me so i get new blood once a week while i wait for surgery. it's been cancelled 3 times already because my blood levels are not right and the anestesiologist (sp?) won't put me under until they are right.
as far as the little black kid; i think you missed the point. i'm saying that he is being taken care of. i don't have a problem with that. if i died on the table in 1986; i'd hope social security would be there to help my kids. (before you ask; in my family, you don't get an inheritance until the age of 50. you must make your way in the world first. i have 1 son who is trying to squeek by until he hits 50 but he has a surprise coming. he only gets $50.00 total because he didn't try.)
most people take care of THEIR money long before knocking on deaths door. the living trust is the most popular now (from what i hear).
since i'm done paying taxes i really don't care. the opinion i was trying to express is that most tax paying people will not want to pay more taxes to support layabouts. the bulk of that money will come from the every day people who don't have the tax deductions or loopholes to reduce their tax obligation.
it's not so much contempt as it is responsability. nobody was there when i was dirt poor. ever seen a getto? instead of welfare why don't they pay these people to pick up the garbage in the streets? instead of giving these people a fish; we should be teaching them to fish. they can paint graffitti off the walls; paint their houses; there's hundreds of things they could be doing for that money. that's my point. put them to work.
on august 1st; i was diagnosed with bladder cancer. i was then told that the cancer is heeled; but there's still internal bleeding; and polyps. if the bleeding is from my kidneys; it could indicate kidney cancer. 2/3 of the town donated blood for me so i get new blood once a week while i wait for surgery. it's been cancelled 3 times already because my blood levels are not right and the anestesiologist (sp?) won't put me under until they are right.
as far as the little black kid; i think you missed the point. i'm saying that he is being taken care of. i don't have a problem with that. if i died on the table in 1986; i'd hope social security would be there to help my kids. (before you ask; in my family, you don't get an inheritance until the age of 50. you must make your way in the world first. i have 1 son who is trying to squeek by until he hits 50 but he has a surprise coming. he only gets $50.00 total because he didn't try.)
most people take care of THEIR money long before knocking on deaths door. the living trust is the most popular now (from what i hear).
since i'm done paying taxes i really don't care. the opinion i was trying to express is that most tax paying people will not want to pay more taxes to support layabouts. the bulk of that money will come from the every day people who don't have the tax deductions or loopholes to reduce their tax obligation.
it's not so much contempt as it is responsability. nobody was there when i was dirt poor. ever seen a getto? instead of welfare why don't they pay these people to pick up the garbage in the streets? instead of giving these people a fish; we should be teaching them to fish. they can paint graffitti off the walls; paint their houses; there's hundreds of things they could be doing for that money. that's my point. put them to work.
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And there is that 'What about me' thing you always try to pull on me. If it was up to me... I'd give you back every fucking penny you have 'put into Social Security' just to get you to quit bitching about it already. I get it ... it's your money... IT'S YOURS!
That's where you and I are a million miles apart. I don't mind my tax dollars going to help the down trodden in our society. I was raised believing that the strong should help and protect the weak... not forsake or forget them. And that whole, 'Teach a man to fish thing...' guess what? That would be another one of those government programs that you believe is a piece of shit and a waste of you... already paid... taxes. You cannot say government programs are worthless then turn around and say the government should do this. Or is this one of those 'Private Sector' solutions we hear about but never see? Are you gonna hire poor people to help run your ranch?
For someone who is 'Done paying taxes'... I don't know, but you sure do seem to hold an awful lot of contempt.. (or is it hatred?)... for poor people... especially poor people who come from another country. You seem to got that 'Get a job, you lazy freeloading bastard' thing going. I really don't care how some poor slob ended up having to live on the street... all i see is a poor slob living on the street right now and offer him a hand.
Maybe you need to take time and get out of that hermit lifestyle you got going and actually visit people in the real world. Most of them are just reg'lur Joes trying to make it here... they aren't all out to get your money... really.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Then, why all the bitching about Healthcare for others? I mean, you are obviously benefitting from a Government funded (taxpayer) system... why shouldn't some poor black kid in the city? Is it because he isn't able to spend $50,000.00 on a truck and write it off as a business expense? Or because he doesn't have $250,000.00 to give to a charity.. then, not give to that charity and give it to another charity for the deductions?
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Also... I would think that if you have $250,000.00 to give to one charity... I would also believe that you have enough money to quit welching off the backs of hard working Americans and pay for your own health insurance.
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I mean... if I had the money that you have to toss around... I wouldn't burden my fellow Americans with my expenses.
But... that's just me.
Hail, Hail!!!
False.
You need a passport or a birth certificate.
Thank you.
this reminds me... didnt this guy once go "underground" to escape the feds cos he was wanted? but, of course, he first announced to the entire board that he was doing so?
i had a contract with social security. i pay them 16% of my income for my entire working life; and in return; they give me a percentage back. it was great in the good o'l 60's and early 70's when social security had a limit so i didn't have to "pay in" the last 5 months of the year; but that was their rule; so i kept my part of the contract.
HOWEVER; i pay $101.00/month for medicare. it isn't free as you seem to think. the bloke from MA said he has to buy insurance for about $100/month so how is that any different?
FURTHERMORE; the poor black kid in the inner city qualifies for medicaid. anyone who cannot afford insurance gets public medical care. that poor black kid also gets welfare and food stamps.
IN CONCLUSION; i'd like to know what the hell are you talking about?
i told the board after the fact. and i wasn't wanted. the person who stole my identity was wanted.
Here's what the Hell I'm talking about...
I find it contradictary to incessantly bitch about government programs while taking advantage of the very same systems you complain about.
I also find it contradictary to continually brag about how you are using loopholes in the tax system to avoid paying any taxes, then use taxpayer systems for your own good.
Obviously, you do not.
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And so what if the poor black kid gets Federal, State and county services? You get them, too. What? You want Welfare and Food Stamps just because he gets them? I'm talking about providing basic health care for ALL Americans... not just the ones who can afford it.
Hail, Hail!!!
first of all; if people don't use the loopholes provided by law; they're idiots.
second; i don't brag; i state fact as it pertains to a thread.
third; i'm not taking from the government. if i live to 120; it'll still be money i paid into the system. when bill gates reaches 70, he'll get the same medicare benefits i receive. somehow you seem to think social security is only for the poor when it's the working class that pays into it.
forth; i PAY for medicare. it isn't free. it isn't any different than your employer providing you with health insurance. my having been a government employee has nothing to do with it; although it was the government that retired me; due to medical reasons.
fifth; i don't want or need welfare or foodstamps. i wouldn't qualify because of my holdings. they'd tell me to sell some land or a house. however; the poor little black kid is covered by medical insurance and does get welfare and food stamps without having to pay anything into the system. so does the illegal who sneeks over the border to birth an american citizen. they're getting money I paid into the system and i should have a say in that.
sixth; i've never committed a crime except to smoke pot. anything i've done has been legal and under the advice of an attorney. we have a saying; any man who represents himself has a jackass for an attorney. (SS could learn something here). the IRS clearly states that you must pay taxes on income. if you don't show any income, what do you pay tax on? NOTHING. you don't have to file. not even to tell them you didn't have any income. also; nevada doesn't have personal or business taxes. so as far as my state goes; if they don't have taxes, i have nothing to pay. only property taxes.
any other questions?
I sure don't believe any of them. They are all lying greedy bastards whose opinions are formed by large companies that give them money.
But the sad thing is that is all we have got to choose from, so just find the one you dislike the least and vote for him/her.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
you're right; and that's why i asked the question. i don't have to decide who i want to vote for; i have to decide who i need to vote against.
One last question...
Why are you so filled with contempt?
I mean... I thought you were on death's doorstep... a couple of 6 months ago. I guess we are completely different people. Instead of bitching about some poor kid who is too poor to add to the Socal Security pot... and getting some of 'YOUR' money... I don't know... I would think you would cut the kid a little slack. Guess not.
I just hope that when I'm on my death bed... money is the least of my concerns.
Hail, Hail!!!
that's so un-american it makes me sick. :rolleyes: john wayne is rolling in his grave.
on august 1st; i was diagnosed with bladder cancer. i was then told that the cancer is heeled; but there's still internal bleeding; and polyps. if the bleeding is from my kidneys; it could indicate kidney cancer. 2/3 of the town donated blood for me so i get new blood once a week while i wait for surgery. it's been cancelled 3 times already because my blood levels are not right and the anestesiologist (sp?) won't put me under until they are right.
as far as the little black kid; i think you missed the point. i'm saying that he is being taken care of. i don't have a problem with that. if i died on the table in 1986; i'd hope social security would be there to help my kids. (before you ask; in my family, you don't get an inheritance until the age of 50. you must make your way in the world first. i have 1 son who is trying to squeek by until he hits 50 but he has a surprise coming. he only gets $50.00 total because he didn't try.)
most people take care of THEIR money long before knocking on deaths door. the living trust is the most popular now (from what i hear).
since i'm done paying taxes i really don't care. the opinion i was trying to express is that most tax paying people will not want to pay more taxes to support layabouts. the bulk of that money will come from the every day people who don't have the tax deductions or loopholes to reduce their tax obligation.
it's not so much contempt as it is responsability. nobody was there when i was dirt poor. ever seen a getto? instead of welfare why don't they pay these people to pick up the garbage in the streets? instead of giving these people a fish; we should be teaching them to fish. they can paint graffitti off the walls; paint their houses; there's hundreds of things they could be doing for that money. that's my point. put them to work.
And there is that 'What about me' thing you always try to pull on me. If it was up to me... I'd give you back every fucking penny you have 'put into Social Security' just to get you to quit bitching about it already. I get it ... it's your money... IT'S YOURS!
That's where you and I are a million miles apart. I don't mind my tax dollars going to help the down trodden in our society. I was raised believing that the strong should help and protect the weak... not forsake or forget them. And that whole, 'Teach a man to fish thing...' guess what? That would be another one of those government programs that you believe is a piece of shit and a waste of you... already paid... taxes. You cannot say government programs are worthless then turn around and say the government should do this. Or is this one of those 'Private Sector' solutions we hear about but never see? Are you gonna hire poor people to help run your ranch?
For someone who is 'Done paying taxes'... I don't know, but you sure do seem to hold an awful lot of contempt.. (or is it hatred?)... for poor people... especially poor people who come from another country. You seem to got that 'Get a job, you lazy freeloading bastard' thing going. I really don't care how some poor slob ended up having to live on the street... all i see is a poor slob living on the street right now and offer him a hand.
Maybe you need to take time and get out of that hermit lifestyle you got going and actually visit people in the real world. Most of them are just reg'lur Joes trying to make it here... they aren't all out to get your money... really.
Hail, Hail!!!