Arrest Made In Jonbenet Case

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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    And the ransom note was demanding basically the same odd amount of money ($118,000) that Mr. Ramsey received as a work bonus that year, and even referred to his business.


    Makes me wonder if someone from his company, or a disgruntled customer or competitor; was involved in this. This whole case simply reeks.

    There's something very twisted and sinister involved here.
  • MrMerkinballMrMerkinball Posts: 1,978
    Someone help me here: Why is there a trial? Is the onus on him to prove he did it?

    I just got confused when I saw an interview with his defense lawyer. He confessed to it. It's not like he's trying to get away with it.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Someone help me here: Why is there a trial? Is the onus on him to prove he did it?

    I just got confused when I saw an interview with his defense lawyer. He confessed to it. It's not like he's trying to get away with it.
    You're confused because it really does not make any sense......
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    Someone help me here: Why is there a trial? Is the onus on him to prove he did it?

    I just got confused when I saw an interview with his defense lawyer. He confessed to it. It's not like he's trying to get away with it.
    There has to be a trial because sometimes people are just crazy and admit to things they did not do. His defense attorney has the obligation to put the burden of proof on the prosecutor. The confession alone means nothing.
    The trial has to show he really did it.
    Personally, I don't think he did.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Someone help me here: Why is there a trial? Is the onus on him to prove he did it?

    I just got confused when I saw an interview with his defense lawyer. He confessed to it. It's not like he's trying to get away with it.

    To what did he confess? I believe he said he was with her when she died. I don't believe he ever said he killed her. And perhaps he was speaking metaphorically. The case is pretty bizarre and at this point I don't think he did it. But I do think he's a pedophile so I'm happy he's currently locked up. Hopefully at some point he'll be turned loose into the general prison population.
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    i just read that DNA samples do not match.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- Schoolteacher John Mark Karr will not be charged with the murder of 6-year-old beauty pageant competitor JonBenet Ramsey, Karr's attorney said Monday.

    "The warrant on Mr. Karr has been dropped by the district attorney," public defender Seth Temin said outside the jail. "They are not proceeding with the case."

    He said a hearing scheduled later Monday afternoon has been canceled.

    Temin also said he was "deeply disturbed" that authorities in Boulder brought Karr from Thailand with what appears to have been scant evidence.

    Colorado authorities have not commented on their decision not to pursue charges against the man named in a warrant alleging murder, kidnapping and sexual assault on a child.

    But CNN's Denver affiliate, KUSA, reported that the DNA sample taken from Karr does not match DNA found on JonBenet's body. KUSA quoted two sources in a bulletin on its Web site.

    KUSA reported that samples of Karr's saliva and hair were taken in Boulder after his arrival Thursday evening. Those samples were tested over the weekend by the Denver Police Department's crime lab.

    Those tests ruled out Karr's DNA as the foreign DNA left on JonBenet's body when she was slain in December 1996, the station reported on its Web site.

    CNN is working to independently confirm the report.

    Karr still could face child pornography charges in California.

    Earlier Monday, Karr's defense team requested that prosecutors hand over DNA evidence in the Ramsey case.

    The 41-year-old suspect was being held in Boulder County Jail on suspicion of first-degree murder, first- and second-degree kidnapping, and sexual assault.

    It was not immediately known whether he would be freed or transferred to California.

    Karr was brought back last week to the United States from Bangkok, Thailand. He arrived in Colorado Thursday evening from California, where he skipped bail in 2001 after being charged in Sonoma County with five misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography.

    Karr appeared at a brief hearing in Los Angeles and waived extradition to Colorado. (Watch Patsy Ramsey's sister reveal what the family will do if Karr isn't guilty -- 4:11)

    He told reporters in Thailand he was with JonBenet the night she died, and that her death was an accident. The child's beaten and strangled body was found December 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home.

    Autopsy results showed she had suffered a blow to the head and been strangled with a garrote tightened with a paintbrush handle.

    After Karr's statements in Thailand, questions have surfaced as to whether the slight, soft-spoken man could have been involved in the grisly killing.

    Earlier this year, Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado, alerted authorities to e-mails he had been receiving from a person now believed to be Karr.

    Tracey, who has produced a documentary about the Ramsey case, said there was something in the e-mails "that made me decide I had to try and do something." But he would not say just what prompted him to contact prosecutors.

    A law enforcement official told CNN that Karr's e-mails to Tracey were initially innocuous but that the professor contacted authorities when they became "weird." The communications were eventually tracked to Thailand.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/28/ramsey.arrest/index.html
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  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    Here is some info from Boulder Court system that shows case as being dismissed:

    Case Number: 2006CR001244 Date Filed: 08/15/2006

    People of The State of Colorado v. Karr, John Mark
    Homicide; CR -Criminal
    Summary

    Judge: Roxanne Bailin
    Court: Boulder District Court
    Division: 13
    EFiled: N
    Appealed: N
    Case Closed Date: 08/28/2006

    Case Status

    Closed

    Judge or Magistrate
    Name BAR Number
    Roxanne Bailin 6313

    Agency
    Agency Agency Case Tkt/Summons Nbr Arrest Nbr
    Boulder District Attorney 96DA21871

    Participants
    Litigant Attorney
    Karr, John Mark Temin, Seth Lehman
    Defendant 1 BAR: 18014
    DOB: 12/11/1964 Firm: Golden Public Defender
    Gender: Male Primary Attorney: Y
    Race: Caucasian
    Alias: Daxis,


    Charges
    Count Date Details
    1 12/26/1996 Charges: Murder 1-After Deliberation
    Status: Arrest Only Charge
    Statute: 18-3-102(1)(a)
    Class: F1 (Class 1 Felony)
    BAC: 0
    2 12/26/1996 Charges: Murder 1-After Deliberation
    Status: Arrest Only Charge
    Statute: 18-3-102(1)(a)
    Class: F1 (Class 1 Felony)
    BAC: 0
    3 12/26/1996 Charges: Kidnapping 1-seize/carry victim-w/injury
    Status: Arrest Only Charge
    Statute: 18-3-301(1)(a),(2)
    Class: F1 (Class 1 Felony)
    BAC: 0
    4 12/26/1996 Charges: Kidnapping 2-sent-Enhancer-Vic Sex Asslt
    Status: Arrest Only Charge
    Statute: 18-3-302(3)(a)
    Class: F2 (Class 2 Felony)
    BAC: 0
    5 12/26/1996 Charges: Sex Assault/Child-Force
    Status: Arrest Only Charge
    Statute: 18-3-405(1),(2)(a)
    Class: F3 (Class 3 Felony)
    BAC: 0

    Scheduled Events
    Date Time Details
    08/28/2006 16:30 Hearing on Advisement
    Room: P
    Judge: Roxanne Bailin
    Status: Vacated
    01/31/2014 7:00 Review
    Room: COC
    Status: Vacated

    Proceedings
    Date Code Description
    08/15/2006 AFAW Affidavit for Arrest Warrant
    08/15/2006 WAFF Warrant Upon Affidavit
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/15/2006 RSLD Record Sealed
    08/15/2006 FOTH Filing Other
    08/21/2006 ORDR Order
    08/21/2006 FOTH Filing Other
    08/21/2006 ORDR Order
    08/21/2006 ORDR Order
    08/21/2006 ORDR Order
    08/23/2006 RSPN Response
    08/24/2006 MOTN Motion
    08/25/2006 WSRV Warrant Served
    08/25/2006 ACTA Appl for Ct Appointed Cnsl
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/25/2006 ORDR Order
    08/25/2006 MOTN Motion
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/25/2006 ENTR Entry Of Appearance
    08/25/2006 WCAN Warrant Canceled
    08/25/2006 ORDR Order
    08/25/2006 ORDR Order
    08/25/2006 ORDR Order
    08/25/2006 ORDR Order
    08/25/2006 ORDR Order
    08/25/2006 FOTH Filing Other
    08/25/2006 MOTN Motion
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/25/2006 MOTN Motion
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/25/2006 MOTN Motion
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/25/2006 MOTN Motion
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/25/2006 ORDR Order
    08/25/2006 REPL Reply
    08/25/2006 MOTN Motion
    08/28/2006 MOTN Motion
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/28/2006 FOTH Filing Other
    DEF/ Karr, John Mark
    08/28/2006 MOTN Motion
    08/28/2006 ORDR Order
    08/28/2006 RUSL Record Unsealed/Unsuppressed
    08/28/2006 CLDM Case Closed-Case Dismissed

    Judgments
    # Date Details

    Bond Information
    ID Set Date Set Amount Post Date Post Amount Details
    1 08/15/2006 $0 n/a $0
    DEF1 Karr, John Mark

    Financial Summary
    Transaction A/R Paid Transf Adj Future Avail Assigned Disbursed
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    As soon as I saw this guy... i knew he couldn't have killed JonBenet... just look at him with those pants pulled up so high... there is no way this wuss could have done it. JonBenet would have kicked his high waisted ass up the basement stairs and out into the snow.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Can Karr be charged with making a false statement or anything like that? I mean the free flight home with all the fixins at dinner on the plane must have cost the tax payers some cash. Just curious, as I can't see making a statement like "I was there when the kid died" and it is all made up and nothing at all comes from it.
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  • humanlighthumanlight Posts: 271
    I knew it! I knew it! It was the parents! I have said that all along! I think he can probably be charged with something about saying he was with her, but they will just say he was delusional, plus it was in a different country where he said that, so maybe it could not be brought in court anyway. Not sure, but what a shame that this poor girl cannot just be put to rest! I mean 10 years later....and we are still infatuated with her.
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  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    humanlight wrote:
    I knew it! I knew it! It was the parents! I have said that all along! I think he can probably be charged with something about saying he was with her, but they will just say he was delusional, plus it was in a different country where he said that, so maybe it could not be brought in court anyway. Not sure, but what a shame that this poor girl cannot just be put to rest! I mean 10 years later....and we are still infatuated with her.
    Eyes Adrift: Inquiring Minds

    They put flowers on your grave jon benet
    They put flowers on your grave jon benet
    The police they ask them
    The papers they ask them
    The parents they ask them
    But you can never ask them

    They put flowers on your grave jon benet
    They put flowers on your grave jon benet
    The papers exhume you
    From your little grave they pull you
    All they want to do
    Is to poke around your mummy
    They put flowers on your grave jon benet
    They put flowers on your grave jon benet
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