i'm saying he has the right to like or dislike anyone he wants. just as you believe you have the right to name call and label based on your opinion. based on your statements; one could say you are bigoted against those who feel uncomfortable undressing in front of someone that might look at them in a sexual manner.
i don't believe reporters are allowed in the showers. and the reporters are not in the showers at practice games. and in this situation; the two would be in the shower at least 180 days out of the year.
So you're admitting that your originial arguemnt, which was that free speech doesn't exist, was actually wrong. Also when complaining about my name calling besure not to forget that Tim Hardaway called himself a bigot...he said and I quote "I am a bigot, I hate gay people". Further, just because you're straight doesn't mean you don't look at/evaulate someone of the same sex's body. Reporters aren't allow IN the showers, but it's not a completely G-rated scene in the locker room, and it happens daily. Secondly I don't have to see someone naked to fantasize about them sexually, so what does showering have to do with it? The real thing you're getting at is that there is a fear that a gay man might do something about his fantasy in the locker room, which makes no sense whatsoever. It's not like straight women reporters come in the locker room, and see some guy that turns them on just out of the shower and try to fuck them right?
So you're admitting that your originial arguemnt, which was that free speech doesn't exist, was actually wrong. Also when complaining about my name calling besure not to forget that Tim Hardaway called himself a bigot...he said and I quote "I am a bigot, I hate gay people". Further, just because you're straight doesn't mean you don't look at/evaulate someone of the same sex's body. Reporters aren't allow IN the showers, but it's not a completely G-rated scene in the locker room, and it happens daily. Secondly I don't have to see someone naked to fantasize about them sexually, so what does showering have to do with it? The real thing you're getting at is that there is a fear that a gay man might do something about his fantasy in the locker room, which makes no sense whatsoever. It's not like straight women reporters come in the locker room, and see some guy that turns them on just out of the shower and try to fuck them right?
you're talking to someone who had a bad experience in high school and i don't use public rest rooms because of it. i'll find a bush before i go into a public rest room. so you'll never convince me that just because i won't undress in front of a gay person again makes me a bigot. i'll never undress in front of any man again. so am i a bigot against men even though i'm a man?
if free speach still existed; why should he have to apologise? he expressed his opinion and that should be his right. right or wrong; he's entitled to his opinions. you've posted many opinions here that were not right but i've never heard an apology from you. WHY? because you have a right to your opinions and the right to express them.
you're talking to someone who had a bad experience in high school and i don't use public rest rooms because of it. i'll find a bush before i go into a public rest room. so you'll never convince me that just because i won't undress in front of a gay person again makes me a bigot. i'll never undress in front of any man again. so am i a bigot against men even though i'm a man?
if free speach still existed; why should he have to apologise? he expressed his opinion and that should be his right. right or wrong; he's entitled to his opinions. you've posted many opinions here that were not right but i've never heard an apology from you. WHY? because you have a right to your opinions and the right to express them.
I posted before that public restrooms are skeevy, but that they are different experience when compaired to an NBA locker room. As a straight man, I don't enjoy public locker rooms shared with other men or people period. However, when your job involves being interviewed and/or seen naked by hundred/thousands of people every year, it's a bit different, and I don't think the argument holds up. Secondly, Hardaway didn't HAVE to appologize, and he's never rescinded his dislike of homosexuality, so I'm not sure his free speech was impinged upon. Thirdly, no one has asked me to appologize for my opinions, and posed compelling reasons why my opinion was so offensive/bigoted in the first place.
I posted before that public restrooms are skeevy, but that they are different experience when compaired to an NBA locker room. As a straight man, I don't enjoy public locker rooms shared with other men or people period. However, when your job involves being interviewed and/or seen naked by hundred/thousands of people every year, it's a bit different, and I don't think the argument holds up. Secondly, Hardaway didn't HAVE to appologize, and he's never rescinded his dislike of homosexuality, so I'm not sure his free speech was impinged upon. Thirdly, no one has asked me to appologize for my opinions, and posed compelling reasons why my opinion was so offensive/bigoted in the first place.
but no matter WHO he is; he should still have a right to his opinion.
No one took his opinion away, many have agreed with him (if you watched Mike and Mike in the morning on Thursday you would have seen what I'm talking about), and many lambasted him. His opinion was never censored, it's been posted all over the news. Therefore he still kept his free speech, speech that was, and Hardaway even admitted it, "Bigotted".
No one took his opinion away, many have agreed with him (if you watched Mike and Mike in the morning on Thursday you would have seen what I'm talking about), and many lambasted him. His opinion was never censored, it's been posted all over the news. Therefore he still kept his free speech, speech that was, and Hardaway even admitted it, "Bigotted".
fair enough. i don't follow any sports as i think it's a waste of time. i have an active life and i don't sit in front of the tele. i'm just saying he has a right to his opinion. if you want to label it with a name; he still has the right to his beliefs no matter what he's labeled.
fair enough. i don't follow any sports as i think it's a waste of time. i have an active life and i don't sit in front of the tele. i'm just saying he has a right to his opinion. if you want to label it with a name; he still has the right to his beliefs no matter what he's labeled.
Cool...I have to watch this foolishness b/c it's my job. I'm training to be a professor in sport culture, and whenever this stuff comes up I basically am glued to the TV. That doesn't mean that I don't do other stuff, it's just sometimes a requirement for me to do my job.
He has his right to an opinion, just as I have a right to mine, and if I am going to have an opinion you better believe that I will argue forcefully, while using evidence (which is why I know who said what, where, and when) to back up my argument.
I am sorry for your poor experience as youth, but that doesn't mean that everyone behaves in a similar manner. I guess, to me, that would be akin to saying that just because a middle eastern taxi cab driver stole my wallet, that I don't think that middle eastern people should be allowed to drive cabs. On the contrary, he was an individual who acted like an idiot, but he doesn't represent the whole.
Cool...I have to watch this foolishness b/c it's my job. I'm training to be a professor in sport culture, and whenever this stuff comes up I basically am glued to the TV. That doesn't mean that I don't do other stuff, it's just sometimes a requirement for me to do my job.
He has his right to an opinion, just as I have a right to mine, and if I am going to have an opinion you better believe that I will argue forcefully, while using evidence (which is why I know who said what, where, and when) to back up my argument.
I am sorry for your poor experience as youth, but that doesn't mean that everyone behaves in a similar manner. I guess, to me, that would be akin to saying that just because a middle eastern taxi cab driver stole my wallet, that I don't think that middle eastern people should be allowed to drive cabs. On the contrary, he was an individual who acted like an idiot, but he doesn't represent the whole.
i can live with that. good luck on the career. it's a big money profession. i don't argue that. if my dad didn't spend his time glued to sports i may have known him better. that's why i don't follow sports.
however; i'm proud to see him express his opinion when it's not PC.
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you're talking to someone who had a bad experience in high school and i don't use public rest rooms because of it. i'll find a bush before i go into a public rest room. so you'll never convince me that just because i won't undress in front of a gay person again makes me a bigot. i'll never undress in front of any man again. so am i a bigot against men even though i'm a man?
if free speach still existed; why should he have to apologise? he expressed his opinion and that should be his right. right or wrong; he's entitled to his opinions. you've posted many opinions here that were not right but i've never heard an apology from you. WHY? because you have a right to your opinions and the right to express them.
but no matter WHO he is; he should still have a right to his opinion.
fair enough. i don't follow any sports as i think it's a waste of time. i have an active life and i don't sit in front of the tele. i'm just saying he has a right to his opinion. if you want to label it with a name; he still has the right to his beliefs no matter what he's labeled.
He has his right to an opinion, just as I have a right to mine, and if I am going to have an opinion you better believe that I will argue forcefully, while using evidence (which is why I know who said what, where, and when) to back up my argument.
I am sorry for your poor experience as youth, but that doesn't mean that everyone behaves in a similar manner. I guess, to me, that would be akin to saying that just because a middle eastern taxi cab driver stole my wallet, that I don't think that middle eastern people should be allowed to drive cabs. On the contrary, he was an individual who acted like an idiot, but he doesn't represent the whole.
i can live with that. good luck on the career. it's a big money profession. i don't argue that. if my dad didn't spend his time glued to sports i may have known him better. that's why i don't follow sports.
however; i'm proud to see him express his opinion when it's not PC.