Early President Election

HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,410
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
OK, this is an early election for the next president of the usa.

1. Who you want for President
2. If that person either becomes President or not, state who you would like to see him/her team up with.


Barack Obama
Obama/Edwards
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  • Barack Obama
    Obama/Edwards

    I'll second that.
  • Ron Paul/Michael Bednarik
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    At this point, I think I would vote for Bill Richardson.

    I really don't know who would fit the bill as a good VP with him though... maybe Edwards or Obama.

    I'm not a big fan of Edwards, but I think that he could do well as a VP for issues like health care and poverty. I just don't want him in charge for our foreign policy or military.

    I would be ok with an Obama/Richardson ticket as well... that could be a nice balance of a charismatic leader and a VP that could add his executive and foreign policy experience.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Ron Paul/Michael Bednarik

    If this is the Libertarian ticket then +1.
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    cutback wrote:
    If this is the Libertarian ticket then +1.

    Is Ron Paul considered a libertarian or a republican? I do recall that he ran for president back in the day as a libertarian. I need to 'read up' on him.
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • baraka wrote:
    Is Ron Paul considered a libertarian or a republican? I do recall that he ran for president back in the day as a libertarian. I need to 'read up' on him.

    Ron Paul is very much a Libertarian. The Republican establishment despises him.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Ron Paul
    Paul/Bednarik

    Next month though I am attending a meeting of the New Jersey Libertarian Party where well get to meet and discuss issues with the candidates for the Libertarian party nomination. Depending on what these people have to say my support may change to one of them.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Ron Paul
    Paul/Bednarik

    Count me in! Looks like we have an MT front-runner!
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PearlsGirlPearlsGirl Posts: 257
    Edwards
    Edwards/Obama
    No Clinton, America isn't ready for her.
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  • sanjaya/cowel
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  • PearlsGirlPearlsGirl Posts: 257
    sanjaya/cowel

    hahahaha, I must say that a 17 year old Indian kid from Washington has had more of an impact on American society than any president in a VERY long time. Well... since Clinton and Lewinsky that is. There is this movie called American Dreamz where they actually address this issue. It's about a society where more people vote for the next pop singer on a pointless TV show than they do for the presidential election (which happened to be going on at the exact same time).
    Don't let the world bring you down, not everyone here is that fucked up and cold. Remember why you came and while you're alive, experience the warmth before you grow old.

    Best two days of my life: Oasis at MSG and Pearl Jam at the Gorge.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Obama/VP choice du jour
  • if obama is elected we're all gonna die
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • in all seriousness..mccain is making the most sense to me as of late. we cannot simply pull out of Iraq now that bush has gotten us into this massive clusterfuck we do owe the people of Iraq the decency to help them finish this to the best of our ability. this war should have never been brought upon Iraq to begin with. bush had a vendetta not a legitimate reason for war. i can't believe he pulled off fooling the people of the greatest superpower on earth to go along with it but he did. now that him and his daddy are happy he's gonna leave this bullshit in the lap of our next president.
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • I'll second (or whatever the count is) Obama/Edwards.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • I want Ralph nader or Dennis Kucinich. Anyone who is willing to pull out the troops is getting my vote. Yet no one save Kucinich and Nader are even discussing that.

    To win in 2008 they need, NEED to get the antiwar vote. A person cant be elected without it
  • I want Ralph nader or Dennis Kucinich. Anyone who is willing to pull out the troops is getting my vote. Yet no one save Kucinich and Nader are even discussing that.

    To win in 2008 they need, NEED to get the antiwar vote. A person cant be elected without it
    DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK PULLING OUT THE TROOPS IS WISE? it just makes all the lives lost already fighting this thing wasted for no accomplishment whatsoever. all the lives and money spent gone. and trust in this... WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND THE PROBLEM WILL BE MUCH WORSE FOR US THE NEXT TIME.
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I want Ralph nader or Dennis Kucinich. Anyone who is willing to pull out the troops is getting my vote. Yet no one save Kucinich and Nader are even discussing that.

    To win in 2008 they need, NEED to get the antiwar vote. A person cant be elected without it

    Actually Ron Paul and Michael Bednarik both believe we should pull the troops out immediately.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK PULLING OUT THE TROOPS IS WISE? it just makes all the lives lost already fighting this thing wasted for no accomplishment whatsoever. all the lives and money spent gone. and trust in this... WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND THE PROBLEM WILL BE MUCH WORSE FOR US THE NEXT TIME.

    We won't HAVE to go back. We could CHOOSE to go back.

    Pulling out is wiser than staying and sacrificing more lives. In gambling and investing they say never chase bad money with good. Same rule should apply here. We should get out tomorrow and stay out.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • mammasan wrote:
    Actually Ron Paul and Michael Bednarik both believe we should pull the troops out immediately.
    good idea than iran can fully invade take over the oil revenues and then the rest of the middle east.
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    good idea than iran can fully invade take over the oil revenues and then the rest of the middle east.

    Why should our troops continue to die over there when the very people they are trying to defend are not doing what is necessary to secure their country. I gave the President the benefit of the doubt with this new surge. If by January 2008 we do not see significant improvements or the Iraqi government is failing to hold it's end of the deal we pack up and go home. No amount of money, time, or troops will fix that country if the very citizens are not willing to put aside their diferences and work towards a better Iraq.

    I highly doubt Iran will physically come in and take over. What would happen is that a Shi'ite leadership, with strong ties to Iran, will seize control. This can basoically happen anyway through elections, so we can continue to stay there, continue to have our troops killed off, and in 5 years the people of Iraq can elect a government (predominatly Shi'ite) that has strong ties to Iran and all those deaths and billions of dollars would have been for nothing.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • I want Ralph nader or Dennis Kucinich. Anyone who is willing to pull out the troops is getting my vote. Yet no one save Kucinich and Nader are even discussing that.

    To win in 2008 they need, NEED to get the antiwar vote. A person cant be elected without it


    +1

    Sadly, it seems you don't have to be actually antiwar to get support for the left on this board. You just have have to choose your wording very carefully and make your plans of action vague enough to appeal to everyone pretty much.
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  • snipes824snipes824 Posts: 870
    im on whoevers side disagrees with imus' firing. so not obama.
  • HoonHoon Posts: 175
    Kucinich/Obama

    Want to Change the World? Then Change Your Mantra!

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    If I hear one more progressive, vegan, animal-rights person say to me that Dennis Kucinich can't possibly win, I think I am going to bust. It's one thing if unenlightened and uniformed people like David Letterman, who know nothing about Kucinich want to poke fun at his campaign, but there's no excuse for such defeatism by progressives, particularly at this stage of the game. If this is what you believe, then I believe you. Since your thoughts create your reality, then you will end up with the leader you focus your attention on. I know in my heart that there is no other politician in Washington (or anywhere in this country) who more closely represents everything I care deeply about: peace, compassion, economic justice, social equality, access for all to quality healthcare ... the list goes on and on. So I am focusing all of my energy and attention on Dennis Kucinich.

    When I was growing up, I remember being told over and over again that anyone could become President of the United States. Well, we see now, that that is true. The one thing they didn't tell us though, is that anyone with BIG MONEY behind him or her can become President. Still, we all continue to dream of that little guy, that person who is really "one of us" occupying the Oval Office. Dennis Kucinich is that guy! He's the person we've been waiting for all of our lives. After 40 years of public service, his record for representing the best interests of his constituents, his integrity, his voting record on the war, animal rights, the environment, and issues of equality are unparalleled! Do you know that he is the only Presidential Candidate who voted against the war in Iraq and who also voted against funding the war 100% of the time? (Both Clinton and Obama have voted to fund the war 100% of the time, Edwards 87% of the time, and Clinton even voted for us to go to war.) There was no confusion about whether or not we should have invaded a country which had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, and had neither the intention nor the capability to attack the United States. Don't let anyone in Congress tell you that they were "fooled" by the Bush Administration. Dennis Kucinich knew better, voted his conscience, and stood his ground.

    If you care deeply about creating peace here at home and in the world, animal rights, environmental protection, global warming, developing healthy, safe, and renewable sources of energy, healthcare, economic justice, and equality, there is no better choice. The time is now to support a man who will bring these ideals to the forefront of American politics, and lead us back on the path of becoming a partner in the family of nations. Dennis Kucinich represents the greatest hope for our future. I refuse to buy into a defeatist line of thinking, which tells me that you don't believe we deserve to have such a man leading our country. I do believe we deserve it. Not only do we deserve it, we desperately need it. For without such leadership, we are doomed to more of the same. If you truly want to create change in the world, then change your mantra! Start saying he can and will win! Start believing that we all deserve something far better than what we have become accustomed to in Washington. Support Dennis Kucinich for President in 2008 NOW!

    Yes We Can!

    http://www.myspace.com/denniskucinich Please add Dennis Kucinich's Official Myspace

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    http://kucinich.us/volunteer-main Join Us! Choose your Volunteer level @kucinich.us
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  • Hoon wrote:
    Kucinich/Obama

    Want to Change the World? Then Change Your Mantra!

    Want to Change the World? Then Change Your Mantra!

    THANKS PEACELOVEVEGAN on MySpace!

    Want to Change the World? Then Change Your Mantra!
    "It is your mind that creates this world." ~Gautama Buddha

    If I hear one more progressive, vegan, animal-rights person say to me that Dennis Kucinich can't possibly win, I think I am going to bust. It's one thing if unenlightened and uniformed people like David Letterman, who know nothing about Kucinich want to poke fun at his campaign, but there's no excuse for such defeatism by progressives, particularly at this stage of the game. If this is what you believe, then I believe you. Since your thoughts create your reality, then you will end up with the leader you focus your attention on. I know in my heart that there is no other politician in Washington (or anywhere in this country) who more closely represents everything I care deeply about: peace, compassion, economic justice, social equality, access for all to quality healthcare ... the list goes on and on. So I am focusing all of my energy and attention on Dennis Kucinich.

    When I was growing up, I remember being told over and over again that anyone could become President of the United States. Well, we see now, that that is true. The one thing they didn't tell us though, is that anyone with BIG MONEY behind him or her can become President. Still, we all continue to dream of that little guy, that person who is really "one of us" occupying the Oval Office. Dennis Kucinich is that guy! He's the person we've been waiting for all of our lives. After 40 years of public service, his record for representing the best interests of his constituents, his integrity, his voting record on the war, animal rights, the environment, and issues of equality are unparalleled! Do you know that he is the only Presidential Candidate who voted against the war in Iraq and who also voted against funding the war 100% of the time? (Both Clinton and Obama have voted to fund the war 100% of the time, Edwards 87% of the time, and Clinton even voted for us to go to war.) There was no confusion about whether or not we should have invaded a country which had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, and had neither the intention nor the capability to attack the United States. Don't let anyone in Congress tell you that they were "fooled" by the Bush Administration. Dennis Kucinich knew better, voted his conscience, and stood his ground.

    If you care deeply about creating peace here at home and in the world, animal rights, environmental protection, global warming, developing healthy, safe, and renewable sources of energy, healthcare, economic justice, and equality, there is no better choice. The time is now to support a man who will bring these ideals to the forefront of American politics, and lead us back on the path of becoming a partner in the family of nations. Dennis Kucinich represents the greatest hope for our future. I refuse to buy into a defeatist line of thinking, which tells me that you don't believe we deserve to have such a man leading our country. I do believe we deserve it. Not only do we deserve it, we desperately need it. For without such leadership, we are doomed to more of the same. If you truly want to create change in the world, then change your mantra! Start saying he can and will win! Start believing that we all deserve something far better than what we have become accustomed to in Washington. Support Dennis Kucinich for President in 2008 NOW!

    Yes We Can!

    http://www.myspace.com/denniskucinich Please add Dennis Kucinich's Official Myspace

    http://kucinich.us/ Your Official D.K. Home Page

    http://kucinich.us/volunteer-main Join Us! Choose your Volunteer level @kucinich.us

    And thanks Hoon :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • During every major national election, I design and sell Libertarian bumper stickers and donate the proceeds to the Libertarian party. When I lived in Chicago, I used to make a killing do this. But since I moved to Chapel Hill, the San Fransisco of the Southeast, finding a market has been a bit tough (Bednarik got a whopping 8 votes in 2004 here). So this year I'm going to sell them online:

    http://www.freedomnext.org/

    If anyone has any suggestions for sticker-lingo, I always appreciate the input.
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    During every major national election, I design and sell Libertarian bumper stickers and donate the proceeds to the Libertarian party. When I lived in Chicago, I used to make a killing do this. But since I moved to Chapel Hill, the San Fransisco of the Southeast, finding a market has been a bit tough (Bednarik got a whopping 8 votes in 2004 here). So this year I'm going to sell them online:

    http://www.freedomnext.org/

    If anyone has any suggestions for sticker-lingo, I always appreciate the input.


    These bumper stickers are so you, ffg! Hilarious. So, do you 'make' these bumper stickers yourself? Did you come up with most of the ideas for them?
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka wrote:
    These bumper stickers are so you, ffg! Hilarious. So, do you 'make' these bumper stickers yourself? Did you come up with most of the ideas for them?

    The ideas are mostly mine, though it's tough to take credit for originality in the world of one-liners. I've seen a lot of variations or duplications on some of these.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    The ideas are mostly mine, though it's tough to take credit for originality in the world of one-liners. I've seen a lot of variations or duplications on some of these.

    The Pelosi one is my favorite. :)
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