People rather be lied to than welcome change

blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
Sorry, mom’s been playing her 60’s civil rights programs again.

And that’s the question I’m left with.
Bush and Nixon lied to the people. No assignation attempts were made. (correct?)

Marten Luther King and Bobby Kennedy it seems to me wanted change for the good of the country. They were assassinated.

I know about majority and minority blah blah blah.

Why would people tolerate being lied to, over trying a little bit of change?

And do you think it’s over?
Will they try to kill Obama?
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  • If you are rich why would you ever want change?

    Think about it
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  • Who the fuck wants change?

    I want another house...more cars....fuck what has to happen to get it.

    This is how people think.

    A lot of people are either in denial, plain stupid, or just lying about it to seem concerned in public.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I don't really understand the theory in the original post. Martin & Bobby didn't lie, had a vision, and people assassinated them? Nixon & Bush lied so nobody assassinated them? Reagan was nearly assassinated. Was that because he never lied and had a vision for change? Clinton wasn't assassinated, was that because he lied? I don't see the correlation between change, truth and assassination.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    people get assassinated when crazy mother fuckers are allowed to have guns.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    long red wrote:
    people get assassinated when crazy mother fuckers are allowed to have guns.

    Crazy motherfuckers aren't allowed to have guns.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    If you are rich why would you ever want change?

    Think about it

    So why does Obama want change? He's rich.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    jeffbr wrote:
    Crazy motherfuckers aren't allowed to have guns.

    oh no? then how'd that crazy motherfucker who shot up Virginia Tech get a gun?
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    If you are rich why would you ever want change?

    Think about it


    I get what you're saying. fat cats like to stay fat.

    But are you also saying the assignators were/are filthy rich?
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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    A lot of people are either in denial, plain stupid, or just lying about it to seem concerned in public.

    But not you.
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • know1 wrote:
    So why does Obama want change? He's rich.

    no he's not.

    according to McCain you have to have 5 million $

    I don't think Campaign money counts
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  • I get what you're saying. fat cats like to stay fat.

    But are you also saying the assignators were/are filthy rich?

    Fat Cats hire skinny rats
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  • ZanneZanne Posts: 899
    know1 wrote:
    So why does Obama want change? He's rich.


    Cause 2.50 is better than 2.00. =0
    Just me
  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Fat Cats hire skinny rats

    ha! that's good. hadn't heard that one before. :)
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    no he's not.

    according to McCain you have to have 5 million $

    I don't think Campaign money counts

    Typical double talk answer.

    He's rich and you know it.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    long red wrote:
    oh no? then how'd that crazy motherfucker who shot up Virginia Tech get a gun?

    Apparently he didn't fit the definition of crazy motherfucker at the time of purchase. If he had, he would have been denied the purchase. Your contention is that assassinations happen because mentally ill people are allowed to own guns. They actually aren't.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • know1 wrote:
    Typical double talk answer.

    He's rich and you know it.
    I I like like to to double double talk talk

    thank thank you you

    :D:D
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  • know1 wrote:
    Typical double talk answer.

    He's rich and you know it.

    no, actually

    psssst..... he's not

    raised by grandparents in Kansas pretty much middle class....

    just paid off student loans
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    no, actually

    psssst..... he's not

    raised by grandparents in Kansas pretty much middle class....

    just paid off student loans

    He listed $1 million in income on his 2006 return, so he's a little above the poverty line.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr wrote:
    He listed $1 million in income on his 2006 return, so he's a little above the poverty line.

    not rich

    that describes at least 3 people in my neighborhood...
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Sorry, mom’s been playing her 60’s civil rights programs again.

    And that’s the question I’m left with.
    Bush and Nixon lied to the people. No assignation attempts were made. (correct?)

    Marten Luther King and Bobby Kennedy it seems to me wanted change for the good of the country. They were assassinated.

    I know about majority and minority blah blah blah.

    Why would people tolerate being lied to, over trying a little bit of change?

    And do you think it’s over?
    Will they try to kill Obama?

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    not rich

    that describes at least 3 people in my neighborhood...

    I agree, $1M is not necessarily "rich". But he isn't a regular working man, either. He is not your (the generic your) middle class buddy. He has a significant income, has perks way beyond his income, and doesn't worry about the cost of a gallon of milk or a dozen eggs.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    My words have been twisted on the ‘train’ before, so before I go to bed I’ll restate.

    As I look back in history, it makes me wonder why politicians that were for change/helping the little guy etc were assassinated. While politicians that lie and caught in a lie did not receive assassination attempts. …Big lies.

    And what the hell. I’ll add in the letter I wrote to Obama’s party a month ago:
    http://www.geocities.com/ivykennedy/letters/obama.htm
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  • MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    know1 wrote:
    So why does Obama want change? He's rich.

    Because HIS change would allow him to keep being rich.
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    -Reagan
  • jeffbr wrote:
    I agree, $1M is not necessarily "rich". But he isn't a regular working man, either. He is not your (the generic your) middle class buddy. He has a significant income, has perks way beyond his income, and doesn't worry about the cost of a gallon of milk or a dozen eggs.
    you are aware of your contradiction dilemma right?

    Your middle class buddy becomes president and all of a sudden he's not worried about milk and eggs.. and he doesn't return your calls anymore.

    but I still believe Obama cares and is more in touch with middle American than anyone else...
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    My words have been twisted on the ‘train’ before, so before I go to bed I’ll restate.

    As I look back in history, it makes me wonder why politicians that were for change/helping the little guy etc were assassinated. While politicians that lie and caught in a lie did not receive assassination attempts. …Big lies.

    And what the hell. I’ll add in the letter I wrote to Obama’s party a month ago:
    http://www.geocities.com/ivykennedy/letters/obama.htm
    oh, let's not forget the change Ronald Reagan was bringing, lol.
  • audome25audome25 Posts: 163

    but I still believe Obama cares and is more in touch with middle American than anyone else...

    because he says he is.

    you guys know the party comes to right? you're not electing king obama?
  • audome25 wrote:
    because he says he is.

    you guys know the party comes to right? you're not electing king obama?

    I'm a little slow. Could you please elaborate on this response?
    I don't understand it.

    Thanks
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  • mdg164mdg164 Posts: 206
    Sorry, mom’s been playing her 60’s civil rights programs again.

    And that’s the question I’m left with.
    Bush and Nixon lied to the people. No assignation attempts were made. (correct?)

    Marten Luther King and Bobby Kennedy it seems to me wanted change for the good of the country. They were assassinated.

    I know about majority and minority blah blah blah.

    Why would people tolerate being lied to, over trying a little bit of change?

    And do you think it’s over?
    Will they try to kill Obama?

    Maybe you didn't pay attention in history class, but Nixon was actually a good president before watergate. He also did the honorable thing and resigned. Clinton lied under oath and was a terrible president. No one tried to kill him. Reagan was the greatest president of our generation, and someone tried to kill him.

    Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN. Which should be no surprise if you understand how the Democrats work. Look it up!

    http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why%20MLK%20was%20a%20Republican
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    jeffbr wrote:
    I don't really understand the theory in the original post. Martin & Bobby didn't lie, had a vision, and people assassinated them? Nixon & Bush lied so nobody assassinated them? Reagan was nearly assassinated. Was that because he never lied and had a vision for change? Clinton wasn't assassinated, was that because he lied? I don't see the correlation between change, truth and assassination.

    Well baed upon what you said, I think it still holds true. ;)
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    mdg164 wrote:
    Maybe you didn't pay attention in history class, but Nixon was actually a good president before watergate. He also did the honorable thing and resigned. Clinton lied under oath and was a terrible president. No one tried to kill him. Reagan was the greatest president of our generation, and someone tried to kill him.

    Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN. Which should be no surprise if you understand how the Democrats work. Look it up!

    http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why%20MLK%20was%20a%20Republican

    point taken.
    but you didn't need to be nasty when making it.
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