Feminism...

CorporateWhore

angelica wrote:

(I also believe feminism sometimes advocates something quite other than honouring one's womanliness, by encouraging us to more finely tune the symbolically male-intelligences, and wielding power in external, linear, patriarchal ways. Unlike the symbolically feminine, receptive, matriarchal or interarchal ways.)

Well put.

Feminists want to make women act like men in a lot of ways. It never works.

angelica

CorporateWhore wrote:

Well put.

Feminists want to make women act like men in a lot of ways. It never works.

What scares me is that to a degree it works, in terms of brain functioning. Women are losing their natural female intelligences and their brains are being rewired to be more like mens*. Is this the goal..do we want equality at the cost of our womanliness? Do we want to undermine our own selves in the name of achieving male power?

It's definitely, absolutely not my goal. My goal is to honour my female-power. Which can THEN and only then lead to my integrating into a beyond-gender form of power.

I believe we can solve our problems clearly and without creating imbalance.








*as stated in neuropsychiatrist Mona Lisa Schulz's book "The New Feminine Brain: Developing Your Intuitive Genius"

smithnic

Collin wrote:

I can think of many small and big examples of men being discriminated against, from hair rules in the military, at schools, offices... to law systems (criminal law, family law...), to claims about domestics violence...

A lot of these things are not big issues at all. At least not to me... but reverse the situation...

Hair rules in the military is a military rule, and therefore only subject to military courts/rules and the problem as I see it is strict gender roles.

I'm curious to your "claims about domestic violence" and what that even means.

decides2dream

VictoryGin wrote:

i see validity in this:

THE 2008 CONVENTION:
AMERICANS GATHERING TO CHANGE THE
COURSE OF A NATION

Pay Equity Pioneer Lilly Ledbetter to Address Convention
Tuesday, August 26th

DENVER – The Democratic National Convention Committee (DNCC) announced today that Lilly Ledbetter, the voice and face of the pay equity fight in this country, will address the Democratic Convention on Tuesday, August 26th.


“We are honored that Lilly Ledbetter will address the Democratic Convention,” said Senator Barack Obama. “The fact that women are paid less than their male coworkers for doing the same job is unacceptable in the 21st century and counter to both the progress we've made and our shared values as Americans. Lilly Ledbetter's case before the Supreme Court has once again awakened the nation to this discrimination, and it's time we join together to right this wrong and pay women equal pay for equal work."


“The theme of Tuesday night’s program is Renewing America’s Promise, and there is no more critical promise that we can keep to American women than to ensure pay equity,” said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Permanent Chair of the 2008 Convention. “There is a clear difference between the parties when it comes to pay equity, and this election could not be more critical when it comes to garnering support for reversing the Supreme Court’s recent 5-4 decision in the Ledbetter v. Goodyear case. As American women are called upon to do more and more for their families with less and less resources coming in, the least we can do is to ensure pay equity.”

One of few female supervisors at the Goodyear plant in Gadsden, Alabama for almost two decades, Lily Ledbetter was consistently awarded lower pay raises than her male counterparts. When she finally learned of the discrimination, Ledbetter filed a formal charge with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), in which she asserted, among other claims, a Title VII pay discrimination claim and a claim under the Equal Pay Act of 1963. Ledbetter’s case went to trial, and the jury awarded her back-pay and approximately $3.3 million in compensatory and punitive damages for the extreme nature of the pay discrimination to which she had been subject.

The Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit reversed the jury verdict, holding that her case was filed too late – even though Ms. Ledbetter continued to receive discriminatory pay – because the company’s original decision on her pay had been made years earlier. In a 5-4 decision authored by Justice Alito, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Eleventh Circuit decision and ruled that employees cannot challenge ongoing pay discrimination if the employer’s original discriminatory pay decision occurred outside of the statute of limitations period, even when the employee continues to receive paychecks that have been discriminatorily reduced.

In addition to speaking during Tuesday’s program, Lilly Ledbetter will attend the Women’s Caucus meetings and meet with key leaders throughout Convention week. While Ledbetter will not be making a political endorsement for President, her Convention speech sends a strong message about the high priority Barack Obama and the Democratic Party are making of the pay equity issue.


and this:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gGxY4N

swoons.

*swoons* indeed.
exactly.
thanks as ever for the post/info VG.

scb wrote:

I love that song - but is it really from the '80s? You're making me feel old! Thankfully, my office doesn't have a big-brother internet warning.

Detatchable Penis, by King Missile:

I woke up this morning with a bad hangover
And my penis was missing again.
This happens all the time.
It's detachable.

[ background singing begins:
"detachable penis" over and over ]

This comes in handy a lot of the time.
I can leave it home, when I think
it's gonna get me in trouble,
or I can rent it out, when I don't need it.
But now and then I go to a party, get drunk,
and the next morning I can't for the life of me
remember what I did with it.
First I looked around my apartment, and I couldn't find it.
So I called up the place where the party was,
they hadn't seen it either.
I asked them to check the medicine cabinet
'cause for some reason I leave it there sometimes
But not this time.
So I told them if it pops up to let me know.
I called a few people who were at the party,
but they were no help either.
I was starting to get desperate.
I really don't like being without my penis for too long.
It makes me feel like less of a man,
and I really hate having to sit down
every time I take a leak.
After a few hours of searching the house,
and calling everyone I could think of,
I was starting to get very depressed,
so I went to the Kiev, and ate breakfast.
Then, as I walked down Second Avenue
towards St. Mark's Place,
where all those people sell used books
and other junk on the street,
I saw my penis lying on a blanket
next to a broken toaster oven.
Some guy was selling it.
I had to buy it off him.
He wanted twenty-two bucks, but I
talked him down to seventeen.
I took it home, washed it off,
and put it back on. I was happy again. Complete.
People sometimes tell me I should get
it permanently attached,
but I don't know.
Even though sometimes it's a pain in the ass,
I like having a detachable penis.

[ background voices continue to sing "detachable penis" for
a while, then out ]

yep, pretty sure the 80s...my heydays ....so don't feel old, i am sure to be older.
and thanks for the song!
great memories...and just so fitting. haha.
:cool: