islamic day of hate

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Collin wrote:
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.

    Thank you for proving the point. That wasn't difficult at all.
  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    Collin wrote:
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.

    But isn't that his right of freedom of speech?
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Of course! I also believe in eventually getting over being offended, too. I mean, weeks later? You seem like a level-headed guy, so you should know what I mean.

    I definitely know what you mean. I don't agree with the pope and I think he's a huge dumbass for quoting that fragment. But their reaction to it, is exaggerated, in some cases despicable... But I also believe if you believe in something unconditionally, it doesn't matter if other people believe in it or not, they should be granted that freedom as well.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    Collin wrote:
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.

    You think they (christians) would be mad if I took a picture of jesus and burned it next to church?
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    But isn't that his right of freedom of speech?
    If burning a picture is "speech" than why shouldn't "beating someone up" be regarded as speech.

    I'm not here defending their actions, in some cases their actions are more than despicable... not in this case, in my opinion, perhaps a bit pathetic.

    This is free speech wether you like it or not.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Collin wrote:
    If burning a picture is "speech" than why shouldn't "beating someone up" be regarded as speech.

    I'm not here defending their actions, in some cases their actions are more than despicable... not in this case, in my opinion, perhaps a bit pathetic.

    This is free speech wether you like it or not.

    I have to agree that protesting is not the same thing as murdering a nun or rioting ...
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Open wrote:
    You think they (christians) would be mad if I took a picture of jesus and burned it next to church?
    Yes, sure.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • shahril
    shahril Posts: 288
    NMyTree wrote:
    "We Muslims are peace-loving people."

    LMAO!! :D


    Isn't it time for them to shut the fuck up!!!????

    Good god.........they sure can whine.

    what did we Malaysians ever do eh... ;)
    and yes, we're peace loving. dont generalise yada yada ya...u kno the drill..u just wont ever stop and consider that its unfair to people like me. in response to ur other post yesterday: abt me never condemning terrorist attacks by assholes who happened to be muslim; well i suggest u check my history of posts. ive condemned them countless of times on top of defending my religion from verbal attacks.

    it is because of these people that i am OCCASIONALLY discriminated against in the UK; just because i have a Bin in my name. it is because of these people that Islam has a bad name. And thats from a selfish point of view. From a non-selfish position, countless of innocent HUMAN BEINGS; muslims and non muslims alike, have died as a result of their extreme and WRONG interpretation of islam. How much more specific do u want me to get?
    I've seen so many people try and copy Eddie Vedder's voice. It's as if if you don't sound like him you're not a man. - Emmett Roslan

    http://theshahril.blogspot.com

    London 20/04/2006
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    shahril wrote:
    ......it is because of these people that i am OCCASIONALLY discriminated against in the UK; just because i have a Bin in my name. it is because of these people that Islam has a bad name. And thats from a selfish point of view. From a non-selfish position, countless of innocent HUMAN BEINGS; muslims and non muslims alike, have died as a result of their extreme and WRONG interpretation of islam. How much more specific do u want me to get?

    Then we agree more than you know. It is a two-way street.

    Here, read this thread and hopefully you will get a better understanding of my message and approach.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=3754489#post3754489
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    shahril wrote:
    it is because of these people that i am OCCASIONALLY discriminated against in the UK; just because i have a Bin in my name. it is because of these people that Islam has a bad name. And thats from a selfish point of view. From a non-selfish position, countless of innocent HUMAN BEINGS; muslims and non muslims alike, have died as a result of their extreme and WRONG interpretation of islam. How much more specific do u want me to get?

    Offtopic question, does Bin mean "son" or "son of?"

    I think someone told me that once.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • shahril
    shahril Posts: 288
    NMyTree wrote:
    Then we agree more than you know. It is a two-way street.

    Here, read this thread and hopefully you will get a better understanding of my message and approach.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=3754489#post3754489

    yes i am willing to concede that its a 2 way thing. im never one to simply blame solely america (GOVT!!), israel (NOT JEWS!) etc etc. i do see them as the enemies of islam for what theyve done to my brothers and sisters but i do also realise that muslims in general have a lot of blame to shoulder for their own sufferings.

    i hope u would also reflect this 2 way concept in ur future posts, and not take the other extreme of demonising 'muslim' and islam.
    I've seen so many people try and copy Eddie Vedder's voice. It's as if if you don't sound like him you're not a man. - Emmett Roslan

    http://theshahril.blogspot.com

    London 20/04/2006
  • shahril
    shahril Posts: 288
    Collin wrote:
    Offtopic question, does Bin mean "son" or "son of?"

    I think someone told me that once.

    yes Bin means son of..
    which means..
    i dont have a surname.. and..in bank statements and other official mail im referred to as Mr Hamdan, which really is my dad's name! He would be called Mr Hassan, so on so forth..

    The whole Bin Laden thing is a bit weird tho..dont think Osama's dad was Laden was he? heh
    I've seen so many people try and copy Eddie Vedder's voice. It's as if if you don't sound like him you're not a man. - Emmett Roslan

    http://theshahril.blogspot.com

    London 20/04/2006
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    religion makes me laugh sometimes
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    shahril wrote:
    yes Bin means son of..
    which means..
    i dont have a surname.. and..in bank statements and other official mail im referred to as Mr Hamdan, which really is my dad's name! He would be called Mr Hassan, so on so forth..

    The whole Bin Laden thing is a bit weird tho..dont think Osama's dad was Laden was he? heh

    Funny brown people :D

    But seriously, thank you!
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • shahril
    shahril Posts: 288
    Collin wrote:
    Funny brown people :D

    But seriously, thank you!

    im actually half chinese..nowhere near brown! lol.. but yeah..ure welcome anyday.. ;)
    I've seen so many people try and copy Eddie Vedder's voice. It's as if if you don't sound like him you're not a man. - Emmett Roslan

    http://theshahril.blogspot.com

    London 20/04/2006
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    shahril wrote:

    i hope u would also reflect this 2 way concept in ur future posts, and not take the other extreme of demonising 'muslim' and islam.


    I never demonized Islam or Muslims.

    I was demonstrating and illustrating through characterizational prose (or maybe it's more accurate to define it as a "Third Person prose" ), a specific, factual point of a double-standard which certainly exists inside the Muslim's heart and mind. The double-standard and hypocrisy I illustrated is factual.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    shahril wrote:
    im actually half chinese..nowhere near brown! lol.. but yeah..ure welcome anyday.. ;)

    A Muslim that isn't brown, now I've seen everything:D

    half chinese, half malaysian, eh? What language do they speak in Malaysia?
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Demonstrating against the Pope, and asking for his removal isn't a display of hate. People do the same thing in America against Bush, and we don't make posts about them called "American day of hate". This is another example of pure bigotry.

    And on top of that, what is the goal of spreading the word that Islam hates the West (Christians, whatever you wanna call it)? If you can't see that the obvious consequence of this is to simply increase hate towards Muslims, which will eventually increase tensions and violence, you're really lost. Spreading this stuff does nothing to help anyone. It just rallies more hatred.

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