islamic day of hate

miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
JERUSALEM — Thousands of Muslim worshippers staged marches against Pope Benedict XVI in Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza on Friday, waving green Hamas banners and denouncing him as a "coward" and an "agent of the Americans."

The demonstrations in the Middle East, as well as smaller rallies in Pakistan and Malaysia, came as Benedict invited representatives of Muslim countries to meet Monday at his summer residence, the Vatican said.

The Vatican has been seeking to defuse anger across the Muslim world that followed the pope's remarks about Islam last week in Germany.

Benedict cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman," particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith."

The pope said Sunday that he was "deeply sorry" about the reactions to his remarks and that they did not reflect his own opinions. Earlier this week, he said his comments were open to misinterpretation and that he had "deep respect" for Islam.

He has not issued a direct apology, as demanded by Muslim leaders. Earlier in the week, protesters attacked seven churches in the West Bank and Gaza, causing little damage and no injuries.

At Islam's third-holiest shrine, the Al Aqsa Mosque compound in Jerusalem, hundreds of worshippers hoisted black flags and banners that read, "Conquering Rome is the answer." Protesters chanted, "The army of Islam will return." The march dispersed peacefully.

In the West Bank city of Nablus, Hamas supporters took to the streets after prayers, shouting slogans against the pope and waving Hamas flags. Raising their hands to the sky, the more than 2,000 protesters chanted: "We put up with hunger, detention and occupation, but we won't put up with the offending the prophet. We sacrifice our lives for you prophet."

Marching in the streets of Nablus, the protesters called the pope a "coward and agent of the Americans."

In northern Gaza, more than 1,000 Islamic Jihad supporters shouted in praise of the prophet, and waved black flags. Khader Habib, an Islamic Jihad leader, told the crowd that the pope's comments "indicate that this pope doesn't understand Islam or the prophet."

In Ramallah, hundreds of Hamas supporters marched around the city center.

Hundreds of radical Islamists chanting "Down with the pope" rallied in several Pakistani cities.

More than 500 supporters of a coalition of six Islamic parties, called Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal, or MMA, demanded the pope's removal and accused him of supporting the policies of President Bush.

"If I get hold of the pope, I will hang him," Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, a senior MMA leader, told protesters in Islamabad, who carried placards reading "Terrorist, extremist Pope be hanged!" and "Down with Muslims' enemies!"

In Karachi, another MMA leader, Ghafoor Ahmed, accused the pope of wanting to force "Christians and Muslims against each other."

"We condemn the pope. We will not tolerate insulting remarks against Islam or our Prophet Muhammad," Ahmed said at a protest that drew about 300 people.

Another 200 rallied in the eastern city of Lahore, while several dozen protested in Multan.

The demonstrations came a day after 1,000 clerics and religious leaders met in Lahore and called for the pope's removal and warned the West of consequences if it didn't change its stance regarding Islam.

Thursday's meeting was organized by radical Islamic Jamaat al-Dawat group, which runs schools, colleges and medical clinics. In April, Washington put the group on a list of terrorist organizations for its alleged links with militants fighting in the Indian part of Kashmir.

After the meeting, a statement was issued demanding the West "change its stance regarding Islam (or) it will face severe consequences." It did not elaborate.

It also said that jihad was not terrorism and that "Islam was not propagated with the sword."

Malaysia's opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party staged demonstrations outside mosques nationwide, calling for the pope to fully retract his remarks. In Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia's largest city, some 150 party members chanted "Stop the insults" and held a banner that read "We Muslims are peace-loving people."
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Their energy should subside as they will be fasting for the next little while starting on the 24th.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    even flow? wrote:
    Their energy should subside as they will be fasting for the next little while starting on the 24th.

    which means theyll use their fasting to strengthen their religious zeal against catholics and the pope. If they target the pope expect their mullahs to be targeted also.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    "We Muslims are peace-loving people."

    LMAO!! :D


    Isn't it time for them to shut the fuck up!!!????

    Good god.........they sure can whine.
  • even flow? wrote:
    Their energy should subside as they will be fasting for the next little while starting on the 24th.

    That, or they'll just be hungry and even more fucking ornery.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    miller8966 wrote:
    which means theyll use their fasting to strengthen their religious zeal against catholics and the pope. If they target the pope expect their mullahs to be targeted also.


    At least it will be mental as they will be unnourished enough to muster up a protest until after dark. And as you are well aware of, it is hard to see them in the dark.
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  • even flow? wrote:
    At least it will be mental as they will be unnourished enough to muster up a protest until after dark. And as you are well aware of, it is hard to see them in the dark.

    Unless they're using Syrian-made night vision equipment, that is ...
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Unless they're using Syrian-made night vision equipment, that is ...


    Wouldn't it be, American know how, hidden as Iranian, guised as Syrian? ;)
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    as long as we kill them; we can use sticks for all i care
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Maybe they'll all decide to go to Hooters and have some Buffalo Wings; that way they won't be so hungry.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I can't believe Americans whine about this. Americans are constantly bitching out how free they are, about freedom of speech, even about spreading freedom in the Middle East... but when Muslims use free speech, it's somehow completely wrong, the article said the march happened peacefully.

    Sure, I don't agree with them and I think they are not making things better by doing this ... but freedom of speech is freedom of speech, right?

    You even call it Islamic day of hate...
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  • Collin wrote:
    I can't believe Americans whine about this. Americans are constantly bitching out how free they are, about freedom of speech, even about spreading freedom in the Middle East... but when Muslims use free speech, it's somehow completely wrong, the article said the march happened peacefully.

    Sure, I don't agree with them and I think they are not making things better by doing this ... but freedom of speech is freedom of speech, right?

    You even call it Islamic day of hate...

    Maybe if they actually believed in freedom of speech, people wouldn't get quite so worked up?
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    Collin wrote:
    I can't believe Americans whine about this. Americans are constantly bitching out how free they are, about freedom of speech, even about spreading freedom in the Middle East... but when Muslims use free speech, it's somehow completely wrong, the article said the march happened peacefully.

    Sure, I don't agree with them and I think they are not making things better by doing this ... but freedom of speech is freedom of speech, right?

    You even call it Islamic day of hate...

    What's funny is that they're so blinded by hate or fear that they dont even see the hippocracy. I wonder how many death threats were received by Sinead O'conner from Christians when she tore up the picture of the pope on SNL?
  • Open wrote:
    What's funny is that they're so blinded by hate or fear that they dont even see the hippocracy. I wonder how many death threats were received by Sinead O'conner from Christians when she tore up the picture of the pope on SNL?

    Oh, please ... Blinded by hate or fear is a PC euphemism, and that's not the issue here at all. Get over yourself, will ya? I am tired of explaining why I think this reaction to the Pope was wrong.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Maybe if they actually believed in freedom of speech, people wouldn't get quite so worked up?

    You believe in it right?
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Collin wrote:
    I can't believe Americans whine about this. Americans are constantly bitching out how free they are, about freedom of speech, even about spreading freedom in the Middle East... but when Muslims use free speech, it's somehow completely wrong, the article said the march happened peacefully.

    Sure, I don't agree with them and I think they are not making things better by doing this ... but freedom of speech is freedom of speech, right?

    You even call it Islamic day of hate...

    You think they would be mad if i burned a picture of the prophet mohamed next to a mosque?
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  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    Oh, please ... Blinded by hate or fear is a PC euphemism, and that's not the issue here at all. Get over yourself, will ya? I am tired of explaining why I think this reaction to the Pope was wrong.

    Really, thanks...the title of this thread says different.
  • Collin wrote:
    You believe in it right?

    Of course! I also believe in eventually getting over being offended, too. I mean, weeks later? You seem like a level-headed guy, so you should know what I mean.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    miller8966 wrote:
    You think they would be mad if i burned a picture of the prophet mohamed next to a mosque?
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Maybe if they actually believed in freedom of speech, people wouldn't get quite so worked up?

    Exactly.

    Apparently they believe they are the only one's permitted to insult others, whether through verbal means or caricurture.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Collin wrote:
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.

    lol if you actually think that i dont know what to say
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Collin wrote:
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.

    Thank you for proving the point. That wasn't difficult at all.
  • Collin wrote:
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.

    But isn't that his right of freedom of speech?
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Of course! I also believe in eventually getting over being offended, too. I mean, weeks later? You seem like a level-headed guy, so you should know what I mean.

    I definitely know what you mean. I don't agree with the pope and I think he's a huge dumbass for quoting that fragment. But their reaction to it, is exaggerated, in some cases despicable... But I also believe if you believe in something unconditionally, it doesn't matter if other people believe in it or not, they should be granted that freedom as well.
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  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    Collin wrote:
    They would probably beat the shit out of you.

    You think they (christians) would be mad if I took a picture of jesus and burned it next to church?
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    But isn't that his right of freedom of speech?
    If burning a picture is "speech" than why shouldn't "beating someone up" be regarded as speech.

    I'm not here defending their actions, in some cases their actions are more than despicable... not in this case, in my opinion, perhaps a bit pathetic.

    This is free speech wether you like it or not.
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  • Collin wrote:
    If burning a picture is "speech" than why shouldn't "beating someone up" be regarded as speech.

    I'm not here defending their actions, in some cases their actions are more than despicable... not in this case, in my opinion, perhaps a bit pathetic.

    This is free speech wether you like it or not.

    I have to agree that protesting is not the same thing as murdering a nun or rioting ...
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Open wrote:
    You think they (christians) would be mad if I took a picture of jesus and burned it next to church?
    Yes, sure.
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  • shahrilshahril Posts: 288
    NMyTree wrote:
    "We Muslims are peace-loving people."

    LMAO!! :D


    Isn't it time for them to shut the fuck up!!!????

    Good god.........they sure can whine.

    what did we Malaysians ever do eh... ;)
    and yes, we're peace loving. dont generalise yada yada ya...u kno the drill..u just wont ever stop and consider that its unfair to people like me. in response to ur other post yesterday: abt me never condemning terrorist attacks by assholes who happened to be muslim; well i suggest u check my history of posts. ive condemned them countless of times on top of defending my religion from verbal attacks.

    it is because of these people that i am OCCASIONALLY discriminated against in the UK; just because i have a Bin in my name. it is because of these people that Islam has a bad name. And thats from a selfish point of view. From a non-selfish position, countless of innocent HUMAN BEINGS; muslims and non muslims alike, have died as a result of their extreme and WRONG interpretation of islam. How much more specific do u want me to get?
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    shahril wrote:
    ......it is because of these people that i am OCCASIONALLY discriminated against in the UK; just because i have a Bin in my name. it is because of these people that Islam has a bad name. And thats from a selfish point of view. From a non-selfish position, countless of innocent HUMAN BEINGS; muslims and non muslims alike, have died as a result of their extreme and WRONG interpretation of islam. How much more specific do u want me to get?

    Then we agree more than you know. It is a two-way street.

    Here, read this thread and hopefully you will get a better understanding of my message and approach.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=3754489#post3754489
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    shahril wrote:
    it is because of these people that i am OCCASIONALLY discriminated against in the UK; just because i have a Bin in my name. it is because of these people that Islam has a bad name. And thats from a selfish point of view. From a non-selfish position, countless of innocent HUMAN BEINGS; muslims and non muslims alike, have died as a result of their extreme and WRONG interpretation of islam. How much more specific do u want me to get?

    Offtopic question, does Bin mean "son" or "son of?"

    I think someone told me that once.
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