Muslim attacks gynecologist

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edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
France: Muslim Jailed for Attacking Gynecologist

A French Muslim who attacked a male gynecologist for examining his wife in a hospital delivery room just after a complicated birth, saying it was against Islam, has been jailed for six months by a Paris court. The police had to intervene to remove the 23-year-old man, who said he had requested a female doctor. "This is a public and secular place," a prosecutor, Georges Holleaux, said. "This is not the place where one can invoke religion to get different treatment."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/26/world/europe/26briefs-frenchmuslim.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    wonder if muslims are gonna riot in the streets bout this




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  • worldworld Posts: 266
    Havent the radical muslims burned France down yet? Whats the car total up to? Like over 2,000 cars set on fire in '06?
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    I'll go ahead and play devil's advocate on this one since no one has chimed in yet.

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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    We all know how many female doctors they have in Muslim nations that adhere to the strict interpretation of the Koran. The schools and civil life are geared to producing educated and confident women.
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  • Hahhahahahahaha, that guy kicked the gynie's ass for checking out his wife's janx.

    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    Hahhahahahahaha, that guy kicked the gynie's ass for checking out his wife's janx.

    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.

    I have to agree with you there.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    sponger wrote:
    I'll go ahead and play devil's advocate on this one since no one has chimed in yet.

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    wow thats a first, it took longer then 5 minutes for a muslim supporter to chime in, making headway over here at the MT
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  • wow thats a first, it took longer then 5 minutes for a muslim supporter to chime in, making headway over here at the MT
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    They're called anti-semites.

    actually just because you support muslim rights that doesn't make you an anti semite.

    i wonder how much effort was made to find a female doctor if the sitaution allowed. i know if it were my ward i would have understood a request for the man's wife to be attended by a female doctor. that is of course if such a request were made.
    but attacking a doctor is never kosher.
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  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    world wrote:
    Havent the radical muslims burned France down yet? Whats the car total up to? Like over 2,000 cars set on fire in '06?

    That's more like 40,000 cars. But from what I understood it has not much to do with radical muslims.
    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.

    That's actually the opinion of a majority of people.
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Hahhahahahahaha, that guy kicked the gynie's ass for checking out his wife's janx.

    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.

    I have to agree too.

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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Hahhahahahahaha, that guy kicked the gynie's ass for checking out his wife's janx.

    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Hahhahahahahaha, that guy kicked the gynie's ass for checking out his wife's janx.

    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.

    I totally agree. This has nothing to do with Islam. This guy was just an idiot.
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  • actually just because you support muslim rights that doesn't make you an anti semite.

    i wonder how much effort was made to find a female doctor if the sitaution allowed. i know if it were my ward i would have understood a request for the man's wife to be attended by a female doctor. that is of course if such a request were made.
    but attacking a doctor is never kosher.

    I wonder why it would even be neccessary to find a female doctor? Do we need to create a whole seperate society for Muslims so that we can be sure and adhere to their religious beliefs? Do you want a Muslim run town to live in Cate? You don't seem like the kind of girl to put up with a bunch of male religious zealots telling you how to live so I guess you wouldn't.

    How inconsistent it is that in a Muslim society that adheres to the tenants the way it appears that the clerics and radicals support, would not even allow for a female doctor to exist. They don't let their girls go to school, right? Then this guy demands a female doc!

    This just shows that Islam has some serious internal problems and inconsistencies in its teachers, clerics, etc. And ya, the guy is a dumbass but I say he was TAUGHT to be a dumbass.
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  • mammasan wrote:
    I totally agree. This has nothing to do with Islam. This guy was just an idiot.

    Did you miss this part of the artical?
    France: Muslim Jailed for Attacking Gynecologist

    A French Muslim who attacked a male gynecologist for examining his wife in a hospital delivery room just after a complicated birth, saying it was against Islam,
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    WindNoSail wrote:
    I wonder why it would even be neccessary to find a female doctor? Do we need to create a whole seperate society for Muslims so that we can be sure and adhere to their religious beliefs? Do you want a Muslim run town to live in Cate? You don't seem like the kind of girl to put up with a bunch of male religious zealots telling you how to live so I guess you wouldn't.

    How inconsistent it is that in a Muslim society that adheres to the tenants the way it appears that the clerics and radicals support, would not even allow for a female doctor to exist. They don't let their girls go to school, right? Then this guy demands a female doc!

    This just shows that Islam has some serious internal problems and inconsistencies in its teachers, clerics, etc. And ya, the guy is a dumbass but I say he was TAUGHT to be a dumbass.

    you want the truth? i'd burn the lot of you.
    and you don't know what kind of girl i am. but i can tell you that i would take a person's religious tenets into account if it were possible just out of sheer respect for them as a fellow human. and consider the fact that i have a zero tolerance for religion.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    What an asshole.

    It saddens me though to read some of these posts. When it's a story about a US soldier killing and raping someone it's a rotten apple and also the horrors they face everyday in Iraq that contributed to his behavior but it is in no way a representation of the US army or even better the US people, but when something like this happens it's proof that Muslim teachings are fucked up, that Islam isn't the religion of peace... Someone mentioned radical muslims in France burning cars, though, if you paid any attention you'd know that it wasn't just muslims and, in fact, it didn't have anything to do with Islam... but nevermind that, right, in your head it's already the muslims who burnt down cars...

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  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    Collin wrote:
    What an asshole.

    It saddens me though to read some of these posts. When it's a story about a US soldier killing and raping someone it's a rotten apple and also the horrors they face everyday in Iraq that contributed to his behavior but it is in no way a representation of the US army or even better the US people, but when something like this happens it's proof that Muslim teachings are fucked up, that Islam isn't the religion of peace... Someone mentioned radical muslims in France burning cars, though, if you paid any attention you'd know that it wasn't just muslims and, in fact, it didn't have anything to do with Islam... but nevermind that, right, in your head it's already the muslims who burnt down cars...

    Prejudice.

    Bravo. What's really sad is that some people (originator of this thread) dont see how much their own actions mimic those they hate.
  • worldworld Posts: 266
    Kann wrote:
    That's more like 40,000 cars. But from what I understood it has not much to do with radical muslims.

    holy shit, im sure its not all muslims doing it, but isnt it mostly muslims burning cars?
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    world wrote:
    holy shit, im sure its not all muslims doing it, but isnt it mostly muslims burning cars?

    The majority was indeed Muslim or of (North) African origin. But the riots didn't have anything to do with their faith. Is that so hard to understand, the riots were about unemployment, police harassment, poverty and discrimination.

    That fact that you attribute these riots to the fact that these kids are Muslim just shows your ignorance on the subject. It's asinine comments like the one you made that perpetuate prejudice and these horrible stereotypes . And it's this prejudice that was part of the reason why these kids rioted.
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  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    WindNoSail wrote:
    I wonder why it would even be neccessary to find a female doctor? Do we need to create a whole seperate society for Muslims so that we can be sure and adhere to their religious beliefs? Do you want a Muslim run town to live in Cate? You don't seem like the kind of girl to put up with a bunch of male religious zealots telling you how to live so I guess you wouldn't.

    How inconsistent it is that in a Muslim society that adheres to the tenants the way it appears that the clerics and radicals support, would not even allow for a female doctor to exist. They don't let their girls go to school, right? Then this guy demands a female doc!

    This just shows that Islam has some serious internal problems and inconsistencies in its teachers, clerics, etc. And ya, the guy is a dumbass but I say he was TAUGHT to be a dumbass.

    "Look at all the crime in the US, it's those damn christians that are responsible. I think christians are just evil and it's a violent religion."

    Sound familiar? Open your mind and stop looking at things so black and white. Ever stop to wonder how many muslim births there have been in france and how many dr's were beat up as a result?

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    Police found Schlosser in her living room, covered in blood, still holding a knife and listening to a hymn. She had sliced deep into her own shoulder and chopped off her baby's arms. Schlosser, 37, has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, and her attorneys are trying to prove she did not know right from wrong when Margaret, also known as Maggie, was killed.

    Prosecutors, who are not seeking the death penalty, argue Schlosser knew what she was doing and should be sent to prison for life. If found not guilty, Schlosser would be hospitalized.
  • worldworld Posts: 266
    Collin wrote:
    The majority was indeed Muslim or of (North) African origin. But the riots didn't have anything to do with their faith. Is that so hard to understand, the riots were about unemployment, police harassment, poverty and discrimination.

    That fact that you attribute these riots to the fact that these kids are Muslim just shows your ignorance on the subject. It's asinine comments like the one you made that perpetuate prejudice and these horrible stereotypes . And it's this prejudice that was part of the reason why these kids rioted.

    Actually you are right, when the people rioted in L.A. during the 90s people didnt say "Christian riots."

    But, I find the economy in France interesting. France has had massive unemployment the past few decades. One of the factors is that younger people wait longer and longer before they start working. So when the government tries to reform the youth labour market, it is met with rioting?
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    world wrote:
    But, I find the economy in France interesting. France has had massive unemployment the past few decades. One of the factors is that younger people wait longer and longer before they start working. So when the government tries to reform the youth labour market, it is met with rioting?

    I'm not condoning this behaviour. I just said that it didn't have anything to do with religion.
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  • Hahhahahahahaha, that guy kicked the gynie's ass for checking out his wife's janx.

    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I wonder if he copped a feel? :confused:
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Hahhahahahahaha, that guy kicked the gynie's ass for checking out his wife's janx.

    Stupid idiot. That's not a Muslim problem - that's a dumbass problem. He's just a dumbass.


    Well, his dumbassness was based in Islamic beliefs, so I'd say it is about the religion.

    Granted the guy is a dumbass before and after religion. But this particular dumbass behavior was indeed rooted in his religion.
  • Did this guy think the doctor was getting some sort of kick out of seeing his wife's vagina? He would see so many of them, it would not affect him in the slightest. What a moron.....
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  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    Collin wrote:
    The majority was indeed Muslim or of (North) African origin. But the riots didn't have anything to do with their faith. Is that so hard to understand, the riots were about unemployment, police harassment, poverty and discrimination.

    That's actually exactly the reasons accepted by almost everyone in France. Following the riots, these points were to be resolved. One year later nothing had changed (the riots were in 05 btw), and the media was proud to announce the number of burnt cars matched the passed year.

    Also, election time is up for France right now and candidates are making their voices heard on some subjects. A story like this for example is a way for the media to help politicians react on muslims in France. It seems (since 2002) unemployement, poverty, riots and islma are linked for politicians and they intend to do something about it. If such stories appear in the news, I have to say it is for a political agenda (in my town, drunk shits hit on doctors every week end, and I don't hear about it on national news). Islam and muslim immigration are a big issue of the forthecoming elections.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    ...i can tell you that i would take a person's religious tenets into account if it were possible just out of sheer respect for them as a fellow human. and consider the fact that i have a zero tolerance for religion.
    Good for you! It's amazing how intolerance for the beliefs of others is so rampant. And the blindness that comes with holding one's hands over one's eyes is a little mind-boggling at times.
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