Ban small planes for celebrities

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  • UKDave wrote:
    What has celebratory got to do with it? When you became famous you can't be allowed to do anything dangerous?? :o

    apparently to some conservatives, celebrities should only shut up and sing or act... they do not possess the intelligence to do things that a regular citizan can do, like speak up politically or now apparently fly an aircraft.
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  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    oooh.. did you break your legs?

    No but they feel frigging awful after footie on Tues night, wish someone would carry me.... :o
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  • miller8966 wrote:
    When will the government step in and regulate flying by citizens?

    Remember the good old days when conservatives wanted smaller government?

    The appointment of the minister of the department of running with scissors can't be far behind.

    you forgot john denver BTW. But even if you hadn't, it wouldn't have prevented this from being the dumbest post this week. congrats!
    69charger wrote:
    No, but you MUST blame everything on George Bush ;)

    nope (as I've said numerous times) just the stuff he's responsible for. He gets a pass on this one.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    miller8966 wrote:
    JFK junior,Lynrd skynrd, SRV,Thurman Munson and now Cory lidle..yet the list goes on and on. When will the government step in and regulate flying by citizens?
    While we're at it, we should ban cars too. For every airplane death, there's 1000 automobile deaths..

    http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen99845.htm

    Do you have a point to this thread?
  • Jammin909Jammin909 Posts: 888
    While we're at it, we should ban cars too. For every airplane death, there's 1000 automobile deaths..

    http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen99845.htm

    Do you have a point to this thread?

    He never has a point.
    The less you know, the more you believe.
  • This thread is weird.

    The government already regulates both guns and planes.

    When all is said and done, $100 says that this plane crashed because of certain no-fly zones in Manhattan that forced Liddle to make a turn he was not qualified to make.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Remember the good old days when conservatives wanted smaller government?
    Yeah, I remember when they wanted balanced budgets too. I feel like I'm in some sort of topsy-turvy parallel universe lately.
    you forgot john denver BTW. But even if you hadn't, it wouldn't have prevented this from being the dumbest post this week. congrats!
    Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, the Big Bopper and Roberto Clemente too! And it's been much longer than a week since I've seen anything dumber than the initial post.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,620
    I be careful some of you, Kat shut down my innocent thread after someone started name-calling. Maybe it's ok depending on your political leanings as it has always been here.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    miller8966 wrote:
    JFK junior,Lynrd skynrd, SRV,Thurman Munson and now Cory lidle..yet the list goes on and on. When will the government step in and regulate flying by citizens?


    hopefully not before they regulate driving


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    I be careful some of you, Kat shut down my innocent thread after someone started name-calling. Maybe it's ok depending on your political leanings as it has always been here.

    so very very true.....
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    miller8966 wrote:
    JFK junior,Lynrd skynrd, SRV,Thurman Munson and now Cory lidle..yet the list goes on and on. When will the government step in and regulate flying by citizens?
    You mean like this:

    The requirements for being issued a private pilot license are governed by the
    Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) of the U.S. Department of Transportation.

    To get a private pilot's license, you must

    * be at least 17 years
    * have a current FAA third-class medical certificate
    * log at least 40 hours of flight
    * have at least 20 hours of flight with an instructor
    * have at least 10 hours of solo flight
    * pass the FAA Private Pilot Airmen Knowledge written test
    * pass a FAA Private Pilot flight exam

    Requirements regulating the licensing of private pilots are established by the Federal Aviation Administration of the U.S. Department of Transportation and set forth in Federal Aviation Regulation, Part 61.

    Sec. 61.109 Airplane Rating: Aeronautical Experience

    An applicant for a private pilot certificate with an airplane rating must have had at least a total of 40 hours of flight instruction and solo time which must include the following:

    (a) Twenty hours of flight instruction from an authorized flight instructor, including at least--
    o Three hours of cross country;
    o Three hours of instrument flight training;
    o Three hours at night, including 10 takeoffs and landings for applicants seeking night flying privileges; and
    o Three hours in airplanes in preparation for the private pilot flight test within 60 days prior to that test.

    An applicant who does not meet the night flying requirement in paragraph (a) of this section is issued a private pilot certificate bearing the limitation "Night flying prohibited." This limitation may be removed if the holder of the certificate shows that he has met the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section.

    (b) Ten hours of solo flight time, including at least:
    o Five hours of cross-country flights, each flight with a landing at a point more than 50 nautical miles from the original departure point. One flight must be of at least 150 nautical miles with landings at a minimum of three points, one of which is at least 50 nautical miles from the original departure point.
    o Three solo takeoffs and landings to a full stop at an airport with an operating control tower.

    Sec 61.103 Eligibility requirements: General.

    To be eligible for a private pilot certificate, a person must--
    o Be at least 17 years of age, except that a private pilot certificate with a free balloon or a glider rating only may be issued to a qualified applicant who is at least 16 years of age;
    o Be able to read, speak, and understand the English language, or have such operating limitations placed on his pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of aircraft, to be removed when he shows that he can read, speak, and understand the English language;
    o Hold at least a current third-class medical certificate issued under Part 67 of this chapter, or, in the case of a glider or free balloon rating, certify that he has no known medical defect that makes him unable to pilot a glider or free balloon, as appropriate;
    o Pass a written test on the subject areas on which instruction or home study is required by Sec. 61.105;
    o Pass an oral and flight test on procedures and maneuvers selected by an FAA inspector or examiner to determine the applicant's competency in the flight operations on which instruction is required by the flight proficiency provisions of Sec. 61.107; and
    o Comply with the sections of this part that apply to the rating he seeks.


    Sec 61.105 Aeronautical Knowledge (Airplanes and rotorcraft Sec 61.105(a)

    An applicant for a private pilot certificate must have logged ground instruction from an authorized instructor, or must present evidence showing that he has satisfactorily completed a course of instruction or home study in at least the following areas of aeronautical knowledge appropriate to the category of aircraft for which a rating is sought.

    Airplanes and rotorcraft.
    o The accident reporting requirements of the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Regulations applicable to private pilot privileges, limitations, and flight operations for airplanes or rotorcraft, as appropriate, the use of the "Airman's Information Manual," and FAA advisory circulars;
    o VFR navigation using pilotage, dead reckoning, and radio aids;
    o The recognition of critical weather situations from the ground and in flight, the procurement and use of aeronautical weather reports and forecasts;
    o The safe and efficient operation of airplanes or rotorcraft, as appropriate, including high-density airport operations, collision avoidance precautions, and radio communication procedures;
    o Basic aerodynamics and the principles of flight which apply to airplanes or rotorcraft, as appropriate; and
    o Stall awareness, spin entry, spins, and spin recovery techniques for airplanes.

    Sec 61.107 Flight Proficiency (Airplane Sec 61.107(a)

    The applicant for a private pilot certificate must have logged instruction from an authorized flight instructor in at least the following pilot operations. In addition, his logbook must contain an endorsement by an authorized flight instructor who has found him competent to perform each of those operations safely as a private pilot.

    In Airplanes.
    o Preflight operations, including weight and balance determination, line inspection, and airplane servicing;
    o Airport and traffic pattern operations, including operations at controlled airports, radio communications, and collision avoidance precautions;
    o Flight maneuvering by reference to ground objects;
    o Flight at slow airspeeds with realistic distractions, and the recognition of and recovery from stalls entered from straight flight and from turns;
    o Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings;
    o Control and maneuvering an airplane solely by reference to instruments, including descents and climbs using radio aids or radar directives;
    o Cross-country flying, using pilotage, dead reckoning, and radio aids;
    o Maximum performance takeoffs and landings;
    o Night flying, including takeoffs, landings, and VFR navigation; and
    o Emergency operations, including simulated aircraft and equipment malfunctions.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    SRV was in a helicopter.
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  • miller8966 wrote:
    When will the government step in and regulate flying by citizens?


    If citizens don't fly who will???????

    People have accidents every day, whether it is in the air, on land, or in/on water, the only reason we heard about this one as much as we did is becuase the guy made millions of dollars. It is a shame what happened, but it happens every day........people die, life goes on.....

    Don't mean to sound too harsh.....but shit....

    People die of heart attacks every day too, does that mean that the government should regulate how many big macs I eat?? (which I don't BTW...)
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  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    People die of heart attacks every day too, does that mean that the government should regulate how many big macs I eat?? (which I don't BTW...)
    It wont be long.
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    I think it's great so many celbrities die in plane crashes. It makes it really easy to play Trivial Pursuit.
    You get the question, "how did so and so die?'
    Answer has to either plane crash or drug overdose, easy, my turn again !!!

    BTW, who was teh creative thinker who said teh govt regukates guns in America ?? Is that by ensuring every numbskull has one ??
    Music is not a competetion.
  • BTW, who was teh creative thinker who said teh govt regukates guns in America ??

    That would be me.
    Is that by ensuring every numbskull has one ??

    There are no federal or state laws ensuring that "every numbskull" has a gun, which partly explains why gun owners are a minority in America.

    However, there are plenty of other gun laws.

    http://www.lcav.org/library/reports_analyses/regulating_guns.asp
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    There are no federal or state laws ensuring that "every numbskull" has a gun
    Although there are a couple of places that seem to think that's the way to go ...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/12/us/12guns.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemom wrote:
    Although there are a couple of places that seem to think that's the way to go ...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/12/us/12guns.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

    Sure, but a town of 800 people in Idaho is not a state, nor is it the federal government. Furthermore, a "recommendation" of gun ownership is not a law requiring it.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Sure, but a town of 800 people in Idaho is not a state, nor is it the federal government. Furthermore, a "recommendation" of gun ownership is not a law requiring it.
    No, but the article does mention one town in Georgia where it's required, although they admit it's impossible to enforce.

    Anyway, I wasn't trying to give you a hard time, I just posted the article because it seemed relevant. I agree with you that we have plenty of gun laws, most of which do nothing at all to stop gun-related crimes.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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