Nazism, or Naziism, officially called National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), refers primarily to the ideology of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party, or NSDAP) under Adolf Hitler. It is also used to refer to the policies adopted by the government of Germany from 1933 to 1945 (known as Nazi Germany or the "Third Reich").
You have it partly correct. Hitler added Nationalism plus Socialism to rally both the left and the right to his side in the beginning. Hitler was right wing compared only to Communism at the time. The man was pretty sneaky for a deranged madman.
Don't you like it when people put you down by insinuating you don't know the facts, and then get the chance to make them look like complete mind-numbed robots but actually putting forth the facts?
Complete mind-numbed robot you say. Hitler was not a socialist in the true sense of the word. Now if you want to debate me on this, instead of attempting to insult me, be my guest.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Having read what you suggested I admit that I might be wrong. I also apologize to miller for being a bit immature in my response to him.
that is pretty cool of you to post that...god knows i've had to do the same thing many times, it's all good.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Don't you like it when people put you down by insinuating you don't know the facts, and then get the chance to make them look like complete mind-numbed robots but actually putting forth the facts?
Ummm . . . yeah, they called themselves socialists, and they did believe in the dominance of the state. But did they actually get around to socializing any industries or companies? Here, let me go ahead and answer -- NO!
Part of the utter horror of the Nazi regime was the complete co-operation of the capitalists. Braun, BMW, Volkswagen, all the major banks -- all benefitted from slave labor and remained in private hands while they fed the Nazi war machine. (Hellooooo -- anyone see Schindler's List? Oskar Schindler's business didn't get "nationalized." He was making money.)
Socialist is as socialist does.
"Things will just get better and better even though it
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
eh, the only bad day is the one where you don't get your point of view out there
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
is he anti-stem cell, or anti embryonic stem cell?
He's against the kind that show the most promise of success, embryonic stem cell research.
"Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
i encourage you to find scientific evidence, peer-reviewed articles, anything, that supports the idea that embryonic research offers ANY hope whatsoever.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Hitler was a right winger with a few left wing/populist proclivities (populist provided the population was homogeneous and German). I've heard this "socialist" argument before, and it always leaves out the "National" part. He also believed in a society of classes as opposed to the classless one of traditional socialist beliefs.
North Korea is officially known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Is it Democratic?
Well I just got to work after performing my civic duty. Though I know the person I voted for, in the NJ senate race, has no shot in hell of winning I'm still anxious to see the results of the election.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
i encourage you to find scientific evidence, peer-reviewed articles, anything, that supports the idea that embryonic research offers ANY hope whatsoever.
Dude, there's only like a bazillion debates on this board alone about stem cell research and I'm not turning a thread about who to vote for into one. As I said in my post if you would have read it properly, it said "shows the most PROMISE of success."
You and I both know that people who are against it are totally closed to the fact that it will work and are very caught up in the whole "taking of a life" side of it. I respect that. But I know from what I've read, and most recently, from a conversation I had with a heart transplant surgeon, that they show enormous promise. What the surgeon told me is that when injected into a damaged heart, the embryonic stem cells regenerate for only about 5 months, then stop regenerating and die off. They're working on ways to make them last longer. But to a person seeking a heart transplant, 5 months can be life or death.
If you chose not to believe embryonic stem cells will work, and don't find research to your liking, then fine. I chose to believe. If you want to debate stem cell research, then perhaps you should start a new thread on it.
"Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
Dude, there's only like a bazillion debates on this board alone about stem cell research and I'm not turning a thread about who to vote for into one. As I said in my post if you would have read it properly, it said "shows the most PROMISE of success."
You and I both know that people who are against it are totally closed to the fact that it will work and are very caught up in the whole "taking of a life" side of it. I respect that. But I know from what I've read, and most recently, from a conversation I had with a heart transplant surgeon, that they show enormous promise. What the surgeon told me is that when injected into a damaged heart, the embryonic stem cells regenerate for only about 5 months, then stop regenerating and die off. They're working on ways to make them last longer. But to a person seeking a heart transplant, 5 months can be life or death.
If you chose not to believe embryonic stem cells will work, and don't find research to your liking, then fine. I chose to believe. If you want to debate stem cell research, then perhaps you should start a new thread on it.
You're the one who brought up the issue. now you don't want to talk about it? The better informed we are, the better. point me to scientific evidence that it does offer hope...even if it's in another thread. i'd be interested in hearing the evidence. I'm not just looking for research that backs up my side...hell, I didn't even oppose this until I read up on it myself.
Also, no, you and I both don't know that this is all about "taking a life" because I support embryonic research on those embryoes that are going to be thrown away anyway. what I'm opposed to cloning new ones to work on, especially if there's no evidence it will do any good.
Obviously, this issue is VERY complex and to boil it down to "Republicans are against stem cell research" is at best a ridiculous distortion, and at worst, an outright lie.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Hitler was a right winger with a few left wing/populist proclivities (populist provided the population was homogeneous and German). I've heard this "socialist" argument before, and it always leaves out the "National" part. He also believed in a society of classes as opposed to the classless one of traditional socialist beliefs.
North Korea is officially known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Is it Democratic?
Socialist countries become fascist or right wing because socialism DOESN'T WORK, and its what happens when you try to install a left wing socialist idealogue.
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You have it partly correct. Hitler added Nationalism plus Socialism to rally both the left and the right to his side in the beginning. Hitler was right wing compared only to Communism at the time. The man was pretty sneaky for a deranged madman.
Complete mind-numbed robot you say. Hitler was not a socialist in the true sense of the word. Now if you want to debate me on this, instead of attempting to insult me, be my guest.
Oh dear.
Having read what you suggested I admit that I might be wrong. I also apologize to miller for being a bit immature in my response to him.
that is pretty cool of you to post that...god knows i've had to do the same thing many times, it's all good.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Part of the utter horror of the Nazi regime was the complete co-operation of the capitalists. Braun, BMW, Volkswagen, all the major banks -- all benefitted from slave labor and remained in private hands while they fed the Nazi war machine. (Hellooooo -- anyone see Schindler's List? Oskar Schindler's business didn't get "nationalized." He was making money.)
Socialist is as socialist does.
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
-- EV, Live at the Showbox
I guess we are all allowed to have our bad days.
eh, the only bad day is the one where you don't get your point of view out there
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
evidence? seriously? provide ANY shred of evidence they work.
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...1-907ae94b1326
again, sorry to bring the science back to this debate
http://www.columbiatribune.com/2006/Nov/20061105News005.asp
i encourage you to find scientific evidence, peer-reviewed articles, anything, that supports the idea that embryonic research offers ANY hope whatsoever.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
North Korea is officially known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Is it Democratic?
I thought being the Grand Wizard of the Klan was voluntary work? Do they actually get paid for that shit these days?
You and I both know that people who are against it are totally closed to the fact that it will work and are very caught up in the whole "taking of a life" side of it. I respect that. But I know from what I've read, and most recently, from a conversation I had with a heart transplant surgeon, that they show enormous promise. What the surgeon told me is that when injected into a damaged heart, the embryonic stem cells regenerate for only about 5 months, then stop regenerating and die off. They're working on ways to make them last longer. But to a person seeking a heart transplant, 5 months can be life or death.
If you chose not to believe embryonic stem cells will work, and don't find research to your liking, then fine. I chose to believe. If you want to debate stem cell research, then perhaps you should start a new thread on it.
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
You're the one who brought up the issue. now you don't want to talk about it? The better informed we are, the better. point me to scientific evidence that it does offer hope...even if it's in another thread. i'd be interested in hearing the evidence. I'm not just looking for research that backs up my side...hell, I didn't even oppose this until I read up on it myself.
Also, no, you and I both don't know that this is all about "taking a life" because I support embryonic research on those embryoes that are going to be thrown away anyway. what I'm opposed to cloning new ones to work on, especially if there's no evidence it will do any good.
Obviously, this issue is VERY complex and to boil it down to "Republicans are against stem cell research" is at best a ridiculous distortion, and at worst, an outright lie.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Socialist countries become fascist or right wing because socialism DOESN'T WORK, and its what happens when you try to install a left wing socialist idealogue.