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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Wanna bet? ;)


    I think hitler was a bit of a socialistic facist. And I think that the dem's are facist socialists. :)

    I don't bet, being a recovering cumpulsive gambler and all. Hitler may have had some socialist ideals but to label him a socialist is way off the mark. See I just concider the dems idiots and the republicans equally as idiotic.
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    mammasan wrote:
    See I just concider the dems idiots and the republicans equally as idiotic.

    You sir, are for the most part, correct. Other than the occasional oddball intelligent ones. Much like you and I. :)
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PaperPlates wrote:
    You sir, are for the most part, correct. Other than the occasional oddball intelligent ones. Much like you and I. :)

    I can agree to that. That's why I never understood all the my party is betterthan yours bullshit. I would be embarassed to show my face in public if people knew I supported the Dems or the Repubs. To me it's like having to choose between a shit sandwich or a shit salad. Sure they look different but once you take a bite they both leave a bad taste in your mouth.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    mammasan wrote:
    I can agree to that. That's why I never understood all the my party is betterthan yours bullshit. I would be embarassed to show my face in public if people knew I supported the Dems or the Repubs. To me it's like having to choose between a shit sandwich or a shit salad. Sure they look different but once you take a bite they both leave a bad taste in your mouth.


    Even if you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


    Until "vote for the lesser of two evils" is rectified and revamped, I still gotta for the most part vote Republicrat rather than Demublican.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Even if you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


    Until "vote for the lesser of two evils" is rectified and revamped, I still gotta for the most part vote Republicrat rather than Demublican.

    See I take the third parrty approach. If we continue, of course this is strictly my opinion, to continue with the lesser of two evils we will never be provided with anything but. We need find candidates out there that will work for the people. That will fight to fix all that is wrong with our government. To you this candidate may be a Republican or a Democrat or a 3rd party candidate. We need to stop thinking that by voting 3rd Party we aremeerly throwing our vote away becausethat is exactly what the powers that be want us to think. Just think about how many voters in this country must be completely fed up with the 2 major parties. If all of these people voted 3rd party, wether it be Libertarian, Green, Socialist, Working Families Party the Dems and Repubs would start to loose their grip on control and be forced to put forth more worth while candidates.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • SuzannePjam
    SuzannePjam Posts: 411
    Kean is an anti-choice, anti-stem cell, Pres. Bush loving stuttering fool. My good friend is his neighbor and she won't even vote for him. His father is an intelligent, articulate man. This apple falls way far from the tree.
    "Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand

    "Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
    But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    mammasan wrote:
    This is the funniest shit I have seen in a long time. Brother here is a tip crack open a history book every once in awhile. You may find some really interesting facts, including that Hitler was a facist. I know they rhyme so you may have some difficulty differentiating the two but trust me facism and socialism are not the samething.

    yep nothing to do with socialism at all right...

    Nazism, or Naziism, officially called National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), refers primarily to the ideology of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party, or NSDAP) under Adolf Hitler. It is also used to refer to the policies adopted by the government of Germany from 1933 to 1945 (known as Nazi Germany or the "Third Reich").
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    miller8966 wrote:
    yep nothing to do with socialism at all right...

    Nazism, or Naziism, officially called National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), refers primarily to the ideology of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party, or NSDAP) under Adolf Hitler. It is also used to refer to the policies adopted by the government of Germany from 1933 to 1945 (known as Nazi Germany or the "Third Reich").

    Don't you like it when people put you down by insinuating you don't know the facts, and then get the chance to make them look like complete mind-numbed robots but actually putting forth the facts?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    anti-stem cell.

    is he anti-stem cell, or anti embryonic stem cell?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    miller8966 wrote:
    yep nothing to do with socialism at all right...

    Nazism, or Naziism, officially called National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), refers primarily to the ideology of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party, or NSDAP) under Adolf Hitler. It is also used to refer to the policies adopted by the government of Germany from 1933 to 1945 (known as Nazi Germany or the "Third Reich").

    Hitler was not a true socialist. Hitler intigrated Nationalism into his political ideals when creating his platform. He used both idealogies in order to harvest support from both the left and right. Yes he did implement many social programs that would coenside with socialist beliefs, but Hitler's form of socialism, in my opinion, was far to right wing, to be true socialism.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    miller8966 wrote:
    yep nothing to do with socialism at all right...

    Nazism, or Naziism, officially called National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), refers primarily to the ideology of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party, or NSDAP) under Adolf Hitler. It is also used to refer to the policies adopted by the government of Germany from 1933 to 1945 (known as Nazi Germany or the "Third Reich").

    You have it partly correct. Hitler added Nationalism plus Socialism to rally both the left and the right to his side in the beginning. Hitler was right wing compared only to Communism at the time. The man was pretty sneaky for a deranged madman.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Don't you like it when people put you down by insinuating you don't know the facts, and then get the chance to make them look like complete mind-numbed robots but actually putting forth the facts?

    Complete mind-numbed robot you say. Hitler was not a socialist in the true sense of the word. Now if you want to debate me on this, instead of attempting to insult me, be my guest.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    miller8966 wrote:
    swastikas have more in common with the democratic party btw. Hitler was a socialist.


    Oh dear.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Wanna bet? ;)


    I think hitler was a bit of a socialistic facist. And I think that the dem's are facist socialists. :)

    btw, for your reading pleasure, and the furthering of your extensive knowledge of all things hitler

    http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/08/hitler-was-socialist.html
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1143131/posts

    Having read what you suggested I admit that I might be wrong. I also apologize to miller for being a bit immature in my response to him.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    mammasan wrote:
    Having read what you suggested I admit that I might be wrong. I also apologize to miller for being a bit immature in my response to him.

    that is pretty cool of you to post that...god knows i've had to do the same thing many times, it's all good.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Hope&Anger
    Hope&Anger Posts: 260
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Don't you like it when people put you down by insinuating you don't know the facts, and then get the chance to make them look like complete mind-numbed robots but actually putting forth the facts?
    Ummm . . . yeah, they called themselves socialists, and they did believe in the dominance of the state. But did they actually get around to socializing any industries or companies? Here, let me go ahead and answer -- NO!

    Part of the utter horror of the Nazi regime was the complete co-operation of the capitalists. Braun, BMW, Volkswagen, all the major banks -- all benefitted from slave labor and remained in private hands while they fed the Nazi war machine. (Hellooooo -- anyone see Schindler's List? Oskar Schindler's business didn't get "nationalized." He was making money.)

    Socialist is as socialist does.
    "Things will just get better and better even though it
    doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
    idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
    Hope! Hope is the underdog!"

    -- EV, Live at the Showbox
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    that is pretty cool of you to post that...god knows i've had to do the same thing many times, it's all good.

    I guess we are all allowed to have our bad days.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    mammasan wrote:
    I guess we are all allowed to have our bad days.

    eh, the only bad day is the one where you don't get your point of view out there :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • SuzannePjam
    SuzannePjam Posts: 411
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    is he anti-stem cell, or anti embryonic stem cell?
    He's against the kind that show the most promise of success, embryonic stem cell research.
    "Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand

    "Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
    But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    He's against the kind that show the most promise of success, embryonic stem cell research.

    evidence? seriously? provide ANY shred of evidence they work.

    http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm

    http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...1-907ae94b1326

    again, sorry to bring the science back to this debate

    http://www.columbiatribune.com/2006/Nov/20061105News005.asp

    i encourage you to find scientific evidence, peer-reviewed articles, anything, that supports the idea that embryonic research offers ANY hope whatsoever.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days

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