Schwarzenegger gets it done

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    yoo hoo!

    I was the one who called Corp-Whore a Nazi.........did you not read where Corp-Whore uttered the term "Stupid Mexican"...I suppose you are ok with that term?

    Phew. I was going a little crazy there. I mean I have opinions about a lot of people here, but I don't voice them because it's not worth it. But you go get 'em Joe.;):)
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    cutback wrote:
    Phew. I was going a little crazy there. I mean I have opinions about a lot of people here, but I don't voice them because it's not worth it. But you go get 'em Joe.;):)

    I will fight and hopefully represent the silent types!
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    yoo hoo!

    I was the one who called Corp-Whore a Nazi.........did you not read where Corp-Whore uttered the term "Stupid Mexican"...I suppose you are ok with that term?

    So I'm sure you told the poster of the "stupid americans" thread that it was wrong to title it that? Did you call HIM a Nazi?

    Haha, Joe, Joe, Joe....
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    cutback wrote:
    Phew. I was going a little crazy there. I mean I have opinions about a lot of people here, but I don't voice them because it's not worth it. But you go get 'em Joe.;):)


    Sorry Cutback, innocent mistake.

    Joe Joe Joe, putting stupid in front of something isn't bad at all. You could say stupid Armenian, stupid American, stupid Croat, stupid Laosian etc etc.

    If he used some other words to describe Mexicans that would be different, I think we all know what I'm talking about.
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Sorry Cutback, innocent mistake.

    Joe Joe Joe, putting stupid in front of something isn't bad at all. You could say stupid Armenian, stupid American, stupid Croat, stupid Laosian etc etc.

    If he used some other words to describe Mexicans that would be different, I think we all know what I'm talking about.

    then why not just say "stupid people".....singling out a group merely expresses hatred
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    singling out a group merely expresses hatred

    Then you are firmly opposed to affirmative action and all racial preferences in education and the job market?
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    -Enoch Powell
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Then you are firmly opposed to affirmative action and all racial preferences in education and the job market?

    Nope....certain groups have been held-down by the majority, so the majority must make up for past wrongs.

    Someone's grandparents may have benefited from prior discrimination...they may have been hired simply because they were white, even they may not have been the most qualied......affirmative action attempts to right that wrong and give hope to a new generation.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Nope....certain groups have been held-down by the majority, so the majority must make up for past wrongs.

    Someone's grandparents may have benefited from prior discrimination...they may have been hired simply because they were white, even they may not have been the most qualied......affirmative action attempts to right that wrong and give hope to a new generation.

    Oh ok, so it's okay for me to be a racist, then. Whew!
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Nope....certain groups have been held-down by the majority, so the majority must make up for past wrongs.

    Someone's grandparents may have benefited from prior discrimination...they may have been hired simply because they were white, even they may not have been the most qualied......affirmative action attempts to right that wrong and give hope to a new generation.
    And that "hope" given comes at an innocent person's expense. Great system you advocate.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    surferdude wrote:
    And that "hope" given comes at an innocent person's expense. Great system you advocate.

    Past generations of whites benefited at the expense of innocent african-americans who were denied jobs based on the color of their skin.........learn about the past before you comment on the present, my friend.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Oh ok, so it's okay for me to be a racist, then. Whew!

    as long as you are ok with it, do as you like....just don't let your hatred harm others.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Past generations of whites benefited at the expense of innocent african-americans who were denied jobs based on the color of their skin.........learn about the past before you comment on the present, my friend.
    I know all about the past. I'm not disputing the events of the past. I do think it's rather foolish to use the same tools that were used to legally discriminate in the past to legally discriminate in the present as a way to correct those past mistakes.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    surferdude wrote:
    I know all about the past. I'm not disputing the events of the past. I do think it's rather foolish to use the same tools that were used to legally discriminate in the past to legally discriminate in the present as a way to correct those past mistakes.

    Giving someone a break now to make up for past wrongs is a needed "tool"...and obviously differs from the "tools" used in the past.

    Taking a less-qualified white person over a more-qualified black person in 1960 was downright racism/discrimination.

    Taking a less-qualified black person today is a way of righting that wrong.

    How else do you right the wrongs of the past?....a handshake or a half-hearted apology won't really do too much.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Giving someone a break now to make up for past wrongs is a needed "tool"...and obviously differs from the "tools" used in the past.

    Taking a less-qualified white person over a more-qualified black person in 1960 was downright racism/discrimination.

    Taking a less-qualified black person today is a way of righting that wrong.

    How else do you right the wrongs of the past?....a handshake or a half-hearted apology won't really do too much.
    You treat them like an equal. You ensure that the schooling system is fair. You do not discriminate against others to make up for past treatment of previous generations.

    Some past wrongs can never be righted. You can only ensure they never happen again. I could never back a system that perpetuates past errors as a solution.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    surferdude wrote:
    You treat them like an equal. You ensure that the schooling system is fair. You do not discriminate against others to make up for past treatment of previous generations.

    Some past wrongs can never be righted. You can only ensure they never happen again. I could never back a system that perpetuates past errors as a solution.

    Of course, many past wrongs can't be righted.....my dad is a Holocaust survivor, but he long refused to accept reparation payments from the German government.

    However, prior discrimination can be righted. Shouldn't the grandfather who was denied a career get to see the joy of his grandson getting that job now?

    Its not that difficult.

    We all end up paying for the sins of our fathers one way or another.

    Does your stance mean that you are against punitive damages awarded in court?

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