Nyc to ban trans fats

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hippiemom wrote:
    Yes, that is what you would think. That is what would happen if the FDA's mission was to protect the public, rather than protect industry profits, and if our media did it's job.

    Hopefully some of the Europeans will weigh in on this, because it WAS made public in Europe, with the result that these foods aren't sold there.


    I hear ya sista
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    miller8966 wrote:
    People are so stupid that the government has to tell them what to eat?

    .

    The governments primary responsibility should be to look after and protect the citizens. More often than not they do not do that. i'd say this one is a good call though.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    jlew24asu wrote:
    of course it doesnt but it doesnt imply danger either.

    yep. it goes either way. and really, there's no way to know for sure with some of these things until years and years later.

    when we're all walking around eyebrowless jonesing for strawberries the size of babies' heads we'll know we have a problem. :)

    tomacco.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    exhausted wrote:
    yep. it goes either way. and really, there's no way to know for sure with some of these things until years and years later.

    when we're all walking around eyebrowless jonesing for strawberries the size of babies' heads we'll know we have a problem. :)

    tomacco.


    I did hear eyebrow cancer was the #1 killer among lab mice years ago.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    brow the browless.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    miller8966 wrote:
    People are so stupid that the government has to tell them what to eat?

    yes, americans are that stupid.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    cornnifer wrote:
    The governments primary responsibility should be to look after and protect the citizens. More often than not they do not do that. i'd say this one is a good call though.


    I'd say the governments primary responsibility is to look after and protect commerce. Therby Protecting individual citizens right to life; liberty; and the pursuit of happiness, leaving individual responsibility to the individual. But....

    The people of New York however seem to belive government is there to look after and protect citizens, so if they locally want to ban trans fats, it's fine with me, kind of like the former Soviet Union if the citizens are used to having every aspect of their lives controlled by government they are going to struggle in a system with more liberty be it social or economic or both. I personally have major issues with the government deciding my personal choices, but I love the concept of localized governement. I sure wish we had a weaker national governement and stronger local operations.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    soulsinging wrote:
    yes, americans are that stupid.


    speak for yourself
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    speak for yourself

    would i speak for you? i dont even know your language. ;)

    but i think the statistics will back me up on that one. you can't say americans are fat and lazy while denying that their intelligence and accomplishments are plummeting on the international scene.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    soulsinging wrote:
    yes, americans are that stupid.


    It's kind of sad really, we are a lazy nation as a whole.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    I sure wish we had a weaker national governement and stronger local operations.

    living in nyc and considering who makes up or national government, i often feel this way.
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    if the government told us we could only eat healthy foods; we'd all be eating buffalo. the point here isn't that the government is telling us what to eat; it's banning a dangerous product that people who eat out don't have the choice to aviod. you can't serve rancid meat but nobody says you can't eat it at home.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    I'd say the governments primary responsibility is to look after and protect commerce. Therby Protecting individual citizens right to life; liberty; and the pursuit of happiness, leaving individual responsibility to the individual. But....

    The people of New York however seem to belive government is there to look after and protect citizens, so if they locally want to ban trans fats, it's fine with me, kind of like the former Soviet Union if the citizens are used to having every aspect of their lives controlled by government they are going to struggle in a system with more liberty be it social or economic or both. I personally have major issues with the government deciding my personal choices, but I love the concept of localized governement. I sure wish we had a weaker national governement and stronger local operations.
    The problem with granting more coontrol to local governments is 1. they were never designed for it and there are balance of power issues not built into the sytem, and 2. it is much easier for your rights to be trampled at this level, especially using the majority rule idea. The idea of minority rights nad interests is not very strong at the local government level.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    While I think that trans fats are completely fucking horrorable for us I find this as government overstepping it's bounds. Why does our government feel that it has to make our decisions for us. We as individuals should be the ones who reserve the right what crappy food to put into our bodies. While I think that it would be great if resturants should be required to notify their costumers if trans fats where used in the preparation of their meals I don't think that the government, local state or federal, should go so far as to ban resturants from using it. If people want to poison their bodies they should have every right to.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    So the mafia should be able to capitalize on this, illegal trans fat food... Just leave peoples alone, if they wanna be fat, let them be fat... i gotta go eat a poutine for lunch...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    While I think that trans fats are completely fucking horrorable for us I find this as government overstepping it's bounds. Why does our government feel that it has to make our decisions for us. We as individuals should be the ones who reserve the right what crappy food to put into our bodies. While I think that it would be great if resturants should be required to notify their costumers if trans fats where used in the preparation of their meals I don't think that the government, local state or federal, should go so far as to ban resturants from using it. If people want to poison their bodies they should have every right to.

    they are doing you, us, a favor. you wont even know its gone. or maybe you will, you pants might fit better, and you wont have your first heart attack at 41
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    mammasan wrote:
    While I think that trans fats are completely fucking horrorable for us I find this as government overstepping it's bounds. Why does our government feel that it has to make our decisions for us. We as individuals should be the ones who reserve the right what crappy food to put into our bodies. While I think that it would be great if resturants should be required to notify their costumers if trans fats where used in the preparation of their meals I don't think that the government, local state or federal, should go so far as to ban resturants from using it. If people want to poison their bodies they should have every right to.

    hey, fi they arent gonna use that logic for drugs, why use it for transfat?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    soulsinging wrote:
    hey, fi they arent gonna use that logic for drugs, why use it for transfat?


    um last I checked drugs are banned. and you face jail time for having them
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    jlew24asu wrote:
    they are doing you, us, a favor. you wont even know its gone. or maybe you will, you pants might fit better, and you wont have your first heart attack at 41
    Will you put up a fight when they outlaw caffeine and you can only get decaf coffee? Think how less jittery you'll be and how much less stress will be put on your heart. Will you be thanking the gov't then?
    Will you care when it's alcohol they ban do to all the health issues surrounding it?
    Or will you finally put up a fight when they ban the use of salt and sugar?
    At what point will you start to care that your freedoms are being taken away? Or will you continue to be thankful that Big Brother's watching out for you because you are too stupid to make your own choices on how to live your life.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    um last I checked drugs are banned. and you face jail time for having them

    that was my point. so what's so out of line with the government banning transfat. they've been making judgment calls on what is good for us for years. why stop now.

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