Isnt Sharia Law great?

RainDog

NCfan wrote:

The same people who rant about America killing civillians in Afghanistan would be screaming at the top of their lungs if the same thing happened in Darfur or Somalia.

I'd support going in to Darfur if that's what it took to stop the crisis there.

There's a huge difference between getting involved in a war to stop a genocide in progress, and going in and annihilating countless civilians long after the murders stopped.

dg1979us

RainDog wrote:

I removed some exclaimation points to bring this post down to a less annoying size.

Anyway. Minus personally going into Iran and terminating those who support the illegality of Christianity, there's not really much I can do about that country. However, I am capable of making ours a better example to the world. How? Well, I'm glad you asked. I'll do it by pointing out when we - as either a nation or as individuals - do the same damn shit, only watered down and slapped with a different label.

Muslim bashing not popular in America? I'll avoid going through the board and highlighting your various informative tirades and point out Keith Ellison. Dennis Prager made quite a name for himself (and a few bucks making the talk show rounds) saying Ellison doesn't have the right to swear an oath on the Koran. Then, later some white-haired fuckbag of a host whose name I can't remember asked Ellison in an interview "how can we be sure you're not working with the enemy?" And the internets are lousy with jack-offs and dickweeds endorsing (I can't even say "all but" before that) camps for Muslims. Hell, there are paranoid numbskulls who actually believe we - the United States of America - are just one liberal politician away from falling under Sharia law ourselves.

You know, it might not be "American Idol" popular, but there's certainly a trend going on.

Though there is certainly Muslim bashing in America, there is no watered down Christian version of Sharia law going on here, and there are no laws outlawing Islam. People say stupid things, there is no question about that, but citizens saying stupid things isnt the same thing as policy implemented by the government, which is what Sharia law, or outlawing Christianity in Iran are.

thankyougrandma

dg1979us wrote:

You just said you were pointing the finger at America because the OP was from America. Your confusing.

yes i probably am... in fact if you read i'm answering an assumption, then making my point at saying that the only thing i said is that "it's a trend in america to bash muslim". It doesn't make the USA responsible for the Sharia, i was also clear about that. But yes to end this debate about my personality, i'm a close minded confusing geek.

darkcrow

mammasan wrote:

I wasn't aware of that

no worries. this board is about infomation and education as well as trying to strangle eachother lol. yeah the american govt ahve been funding them and giving them arms for so many years because the union of islamic courts (i think that is their name) have been gaining huge support from the people. the warlords according to reports were/are really repressive and the people hated them. many now say the new "rulers" are much fairer.... i dunno if that is true but if they have popular public support.....

NCfan

RainDog wrote:

I'd support going in to Darfur if that's what it took to stop the crisis there.

There's a huge difference between getting involved in a war to stop a genocide in progress, and going in and annihilating countless civilians long after the murders stopped.

Moral Equivalence at its best....

Shia's with a chip on their shoulder hiding IED's on the street in an attempt to kill civillian sunni's is the same thing as American troops dropping a bomb on a house full of these crooked Shia fucks, and inadvertantly killing the family who lived in the house. Yes, that's the same thing huh?

America hasn't been and isn't the cause of all the civillain deaths. It's the warlords, terrorist factions and religous leaders who are orchastrating the killing of civillians. I haven't heard of any American death squads running around Baghdad, but I sure as hell have heard of others.

thankyougrandma

NCfan wrote:

Moral Equivalence at its best....

Shia's with a chip on their shoulder hiding IED's on the street in an attempt to kill civillian sunni's is the same thing as American troops dropping a bomb on a house full of these crooked Shia fucks, and inadvertantly killing the family who lived in the house. Yes, that's the same thing huh?

America hasn't been and isn't the cause of all the civillain deaths. It's the warlords, terrorist factions and religous leaders who are orchastrating the killing of civillians. I haven't heard of any American death squads running around Baghdad, but I sure as hell have heard of others.

Darfur as something to do with a government bombing an whole province, just put peacekeepers, armed peacekeepers, and violence will drop dramaticly, and it's not coming from my confusing brain, but from General Roméo Dallaire brain...

darkcrow

thankyougrandma wrote:

Darfur as something to do with a government bombing an whole province, just put peacekeepers, armed peacekeepers, and violence will drop dramaticly, and it's not coming from my confusing brain, but from General Roméo Dallaire brain...

to be fair an african union armed peacekeeping force supplimented by indian and other troops is there but it is woefully understrength and underfunded. the sudanese govt have agreed to a deal which involved the un too... so here is hoping it is sorted soon

RainDog

dg1979us wrote:

Though there is certainly Muslim bashing in America, there is no watered down Christian version of Sharia law going on here, and there are no laws outlawing Islam. People say stupid things, there is no question about that, but citizens saying stupid things isnt the same thing as policy implemented by the government, which is what Sharia law, or outlawing Christianity in Iran are.

Citizens in large numbers saying stupid things in a democracy could lead to Political Action Committees that, in turn, influence politicians.

I'm not saying we're implementing laws here. I'm simply pointing out idiots who do believe in a watered down Christian version of Saria law. I want us to all point and laugh. I don't want laws against them, that wouldn't be right in a free and open society. I just want them to be anathemas in the general public.

thankyougrandma

darkcrow wrote:

to be fair an african union armed peacekeeping force supplimented by indian and other troops is there but it is woefully understrength and underfunded. the sudanese govt have agreed to a deal which involved the un too... so here is hoping it is sorted soon

Here's hoping too, too bad Iran, Iraq and the whole muslims religions thing is more important that what's going on in Darfur in the medias (and unfortunatly in public opinion's mind).

Btw, Dallaire is not a fool, he knows it wouldn't END violence, but it would help some areas, cause major humanitarian crisis are in the waiting of happening in most refugees camp, where they're waiting for thousands to die, not of bombs, but lack of water, food and sanitarian means. Bravos to all the organisations who are courageous enough to stay in those camp to help.

RainDog

NCfan wrote:

Moral Equivalence at its best....

Shia's with a chip on their shoulder hiding IED's on the street in an attempt to kill civillian sunni's is the same thing as American troops dropping a bomb on a house full of these crooked Shia fucks, and inadvertantly killing the family who lived in the house. Yes, that's the same thing huh?

America hasn't been and isn't the cause of all the civillain deaths. It's the warlords, terrorist factions and religous leaders who are orchastrating the killing of civillians. I haven't heard of any American death squads running around Baghdad, but I sure as hell have heard of others.

No. But I did hear of a war, or something, hard to tell these days, that the United States started. In Iraq, I think. Something about a ruthless dictator who slaughtered people in his own population while we looked away - only to later use that slaughter as a rallying cry for war, like, ten or more years after it was over.

Then, I seem to remember - now, correct me if I'm wrong - that a civil war erupted between disparate populations in the area after the once ruthless leader was overthrown. That it was something we didn't plan for (despite evidence obvious to this keyboard jockey a year before the damn thing was started), and that it wasn't happening when we moved in.

Oh, and those bombs we drop - they can judge a man's soul while they fall, right? That way they only kill the bad guys. And the families of those who die, they understand and will fall hand over foot just to be our friends.

hippiemom

RainDog wrote:

Citizens in large numbers saying stupid things in a democracy could lead to Political Action Committees that, in turn, influence politicians.

I'm not saying we're implementing laws here. I'm simply pointing out idiots who do believe in a watered down Christian version of Saria law. I want us to all point and laugh. I don't want laws against them, that wouldn't be right in a free and open society. I just want them to be anathemas in the general public.

I've been doing my part for years

dg1979us

RainDog wrote:

Citizens in large numbers saying stupid things in a democracy could lead to Political Action Committees that, in turn, influence politicians.

I'm not saying we're implementing laws here. I'm simply pointing out idiots who do believe in a watered down Christian version of Saria law. I want us to all point and laugh. I don't want laws against them, that wouldn't be right in a free and open society. I just want them to be anathemas in the general public.

I think most of us do point and laugh. The majority of this country may be Christian, but the majority is certainly not fundamentalists. Jerry Falwell's recent influence has done things like outted the purple teletubby. And most rational people laughed. Robertson only makes headlines anymore because of his outrageous comments, and most people laugh and/or cringe, but they dont take him seriously.