Isnt Sharia Law great?

miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
Somalia official issues beheading threat.


MOGADISHU, Somalia - Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days.


Public places such as shops and tea houses in Bulo Burto, about 124 miles northeast of the capital, Mogadishu, should be closed during prayer time and no one should be on the streets, said Sheik Hussein Barre Rage, the chairman of the town's Islamic court.


Those who do not follow this edict "will definitely be beheaded according to Islamic law," Rage told The Associated Press by phone. "As Muslims, we should practice Islam fully, not in part, and that is what our religion enjoins us to do."


He said that the courts are announcing the edict over loudspeakers in the town.


The Council on American Islamic Relations called the takeover of Somalia by Islamic militants "a positive change."
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Sharia rocks! Here are a couple more articles that SuzannePjam posted showing the joys of Sharia:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=223581
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=223917

    Allahu Akbar
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    miller8966 wrote:
    Somalia official issues beheading threat.


    MOGADISHU, Somalia - Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days.


    Public places such as shops and tea houses in Bulo Burto, about 124 miles northeast of the capital, Mogadishu, should be closed during prayer time and no one should be on the streets, said Sheik Hussein Barre Rage, the chairman of the town's Islamic court.


    Those who do not follow this edict "will definitely be beheaded according to Islamic law," Rage told The Associated Press by phone. "As Muslims, we should practice Islam fully, not in part, and that is what our religion enjoins us to do."


    He said that the courts are announcing the edict over loudspeakers in the town.


    The Council on American Islamic Relations called the takeover of Somalia by Islamic militants "a positive change."

    So when do we invade? I mean we can't have this these militant Islamist running their own country and depriving it's citizens of democracy. I mean this is worse than Iraq. Here we have an actual government that has direct ties to Islamic militants.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • here we go again... just one more thread...

    Sharia, Burka, whatever, are all bad, but they're the results of poor leaders, and the population is the victims again, muslim population in this case, but blaming an whole religion is way more cooler in America... muslim bashing at his best. But nothing new here, business as usual...
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    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    here we go again... just one more thread...

    Sharia, Burka, whatever, are all bad, but they're the results of poor leaders, and the population is the victims again, muslim population in this case, but blaming an whole religion is way more cooler in America... muslim bashing at his best. But nothing new here, business as usual...

    But didnt you just put the blame on america, which is just as cool?lol
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    mammasan wrote:
    So when do we invade? I mean we can't have this these militant Islamist running their own country and depriving it's citizens of democracy. I mean this is worse than Iraq. Here we have an actual government that has direct ties to Islamic militants.

    yeah, but they dont have oil and their leader didnt try to kill our leader's dad. so who gives a shit what they do to their people?
  • miller8966 wrote:
    But didnt you just put the blame on america, which is just as cool?lol

    oh no, i don't blame america, you imagine stuff, i say that muslim bashing is a trend in america, and you're probably a trendy kids, but they're not to blame for the sharia, it's all in the biased of the general opinions.

    It's also funny how you forget to make a difference between the majority of the muslims and those in power trying to push an agendas, in fact you (and everyone who are consistently posting against muslims) sound like the victim blaming muslims for everything, when muslims are indeed the victims of these poor leaders.

    You should be defending them, muslims...

    edit: but in the end i agree, sharia is bad, so is burka, so is violent resolutions of any conflicts.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    oh no, i don't blame america, you imagine stuff, i say that muslim bashing is a trend in america, and you're probably a trendy kids, but they're not to blame for the sharia, it's all in the biased of the general opinions.

    It's also funny how you forget to make a difference between the majority of the muslims and those in power trying to push an agendas, in fact you (and everyone who are consistently posting against muslims) sound like the victim blaming muslims for everything, when muslims are indeed the victims of these poor leaders.

    You should be defending them, muslims...

    I never talked about the majority. I just mentioned Sharia.

    lol@ muslims being the victims.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    yeah, but they dont have oil

    That's the x factor isn't it. Somolia is some dirt poor country in Africa so our governemt really doesn't give a shitwho controls the country and what happens to the population.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • miller8966 wrote:
    I never talked about the majority. I just mentioned Sharia.

    lol@ muslims being the victims.

    see.... nothing to add, you make my own point...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    oh no, i don't blame america, you imagine stuff, i say that muslim bashing is a trend in america, and you're probably a trendy kids, but they're not to blame for the sharia, it's all in the biased of the general opinions.

    It's also funny how you forget to make a difference between the majority of the muslims and those in power trying to push an agendas, in fact you (and everyone who are consistently posting against muslims) sound like the victim blaming muslims for everything, when muslims are indeed the victims of these poor leaders.

    You should be defending them, muslims...

    Where did this notion come from that Muslim bashing is popular in the US? Sure, there are those that think all Muslims are terrorists, but they are a small minority. It's understood that not all Muslims follow Sharia law. It's not like people in America refuse to acknowledge the facts. We are well aware....

    So why is it that people around the world think we hate Mulsims???? And furthermore, take a country like Iran. It is ILLEGAL to be a Christian there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So, why in the hell would someone point the finger at America??? You are free to worship Satan here if you so choose. If anybody is bashing religion, it's countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia... give me a break!
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    mammasan wrote:
    That's the x factor isn't it. Somolia is some dirt poor country in Africa so our governemt really doesn't give a shitwho controls the country and what happens to the population.

    That statement takes our governments actions far out of context. In fact, it ignores history all-together.

    We went to Somalia in 93' in a purely humanitarian role. We all know why we left, and Republicans are to blame as much as Bill Clinton and the Dems.

    America does not have the backing of the world, nor its own population to be the world's police force. When we do choose to act, we are acused of all kinds of atrocities.

    The same people who rant about America killing civillians in Afghanistan would be screaming at the top of their lungs if the same thing happened in Darfur or Somalia.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    NCfan wrote:
    That statement takes our governments actions far out of context. In fact, it ignores history all-together.

    We went to Somalia in 93' in a purely humanitarian role. We all know why we left, and Republicans are to blame as much as Bill Clinton and the Dems.

    America does not have the backing of the world, nor its own population to be the world's police force. When we do choose to act, we are acused of all kinds of atrocities.

    The same people who rant about America killing civillians in Afghanistan would be screaming at the top of their lungs if the same thing happened in Darfur or Somalia.

    well said. I truly dont understand why people piss cry and moan when america goes to war but pisses cries and moans when we dont.

    you are right, we arent a world police force. and Oil had alot to do with us going to war with Iraq. Why? becuase the US depends on oil to function, and so does the world. we need to protect our interests in Oil. as well as trying to fight terrorism.

    where is the UN? why is nobody bitching about them? shouldnt they be condemning these crazy fucks in somalia?
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    NCfan wrote:
    That statement takes our governments actions far out of context. In fact, it ignores history all-together.

    We went to Somalia in 93' in a purely humanitarian role. We all know why we left, and Republicans are to blame as much as Bill Clinton and the Dems.

    America does not have the backing of the world, nor its own population to be the world's police force. When we do choose to act, we are acused of all kinds of atrocities.

    The same people who rant about America killing civillians in Afghanistan would be screaming at the top of their lungs if the same thing happened in Darfur or Somalia.

    There are other ways to intervene beside militarily. The point is that Somalia has been slowly falling into Islamic militant hands and our government hasn't done a single thing about it. Not even a one sentence acknowledgement of the situation over there. I do agree with you that my responsewas over simplifying the situation but I was trying to make a point. If a country offers no reward that can be to our benefit our involvment is minimal to none.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • NCfan wrote:
    Where did this notion come from that Muslim bashing is popular in the US?

    hmmm, i don't know, where did i get that???

    NCfan wrote:
    Sure, there are those that think all Muslims are terrorists, but they are a small minority. It's understood that not all Muslims follow Sharia law. It's not like people in America refuse to acknowledge the facts. We are well aware....

    great, then you probably agree that muslims are the victims in these case.
    NCfan wrote:
    So why is it that people around the world think we hate Mulsims???? And furthermore, take a country like Iran. It is ILLEGAL to be a Christian there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    again, i just don't know where it comes from, probably my imagination, hehe. I won't defend Iran, i agree that making christianity illegal is bad, what's your point? Iran leaders are crooked, Iranians wish they could be more free, Iranians are not stupid, someday they'll rebel, but it's not of anyone business to liberate them, unless their leader drops a bomb on them and kill thousands of them, like in Darfur, do you want to talk about Darfur? Oh wait, muslims against muslims, that's ok i guess...
    NCfan wrote:
    So, why in the hell would someone point the finger at America??? You are free to worship Satan here if you so choose. If anybody is bashing religion, it's countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia... give me a break!

    i point finger at america cause the guy who post this thread pointing out how bad muslims religion is because of the Somalian "government", is from the USA (and i'm under the impression that the hats fits you well also, seeing your reaction), but in fact i said that i don't blame america, just saying that it's a trend to bash muslims in general without mentioning that Muslims are indeed the victims of their leaders, that's all.
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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    So you point the finger at America because of one poster's comment? How open minded you are.
  • dg1979us wrote:
    So you point the finger at America because of one poster's comment? How open minded you are.

    for jesus fuck sake... no i'm a close minded fucker...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    NCfan wrote:
    Where did this notion come from that Muslim bashing is popular in the US? Sure, there are those that think all Muslims are terrorists, but they are a small minority. It's understood that not all Muslims follow Sharia law. It's not like people in America refuse to acknowledge the facts. We are well aware....

    So why is it that people around the world think we hate Mulsims???? And furthermore, take a country like Iran. It is ILLEGAL to be a Christian there!!!!!!!!

    So, why in the hell would someone point the finger at America??? You are free to worship Satan here if you so choose. If anybody is bashing religion, it's countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia... give me a break!
    I removed some exclaimation points to bring this post down to a less annoying size.

    Anyway. Minus personally going into Iran and terminating those who support the illegality of Christianity, there's not really much I can do about that country. However, I am capable of making ours a better example to the world. How? Well, I'm glad you asked. I'll do it by pointing out when we - as either a nation or as individuals - do the same damn shit, only watered down and slapped with a different label.

    Muslim bashing not popular in America? I'll avoid going through the board and highlighting your various informative tirades and point out Keith Ellison. Dennis Prager made quite a name for himself (and a few bucks making the talk show rounds) saying Ellison doesn't have the right to swear an oath on the Koran. Then, later some white-haired fuckbag of a host whose name I can't remember asked Ellison in an interview "how can we be sure you're not working with the enemy?" And the internets are lousy with jack-offs and dickweeds endorsing (I can't even say "all but" before that) camps for Muslims. Hell, there are paranoid numbskulls who actually believe we - the United States of America - are just one liberal politician away from falling under Sharia law ourselves.

    You know, it might not be "American Idol" popular, but there's certainly a trend going on.
  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    for jesus fuck sake... no i'm a close minded fucker...


    You just said you were pointing the finger at America because the OP was from America. Your confusing.
  • darkcrowdarkcrow Posts: 1,102
    mammasan wrote:
    There are other ways to intervene beside militarily. The point is that Somalia has been slowly falling into Islamic militant hands and our government hasn't done a single thing about it. Not even a one sentence acknowledgement of the situation over there. I do agree with you that my responsewas over simplifying the situation but I was trying to make a point. If a country offers no reward that can be to our benefit our involvment is minimal to none.

    the american govt (And i am sure others) have been funding the very unpopular warlords for many years.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    darkcrow wrote:
    the american govt (And i am sure others) have been funding the very unpopular warlords for many years.


    I wasn't aware of that
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    NCfan wrote:
    The same people who rant about America killing civillians in Afghanistan would be screaming at the top of their lungs if the same thing happened in Darfur or Somalia.
    I'd support going in to Darfur if that's what it took to stop the crisis there.

    There's a huge difference between getting involved in a war to stop a genocide in progress, and going in and annihilating countless civilians long after the murders stopped.
  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    RainDog wrote:
    I removed some exclaimation points to bring this post down to a less annoying size.

    Anyway. Minus personally going into Iran and terminating those who support the illegality of Christianity, there's not really much I can do about that country. However, I am capable of making ours a better example to the world. How? Well, I'm glad you asked. I'll do it by pointing out when we - as either a nation or as individuals - do the same damn shit, only watered down and slapped with a different label.

    Muslim bashing not popular in America? I'll avoid going through the board and highlighting your various informative tirades and point out Keith Ellison. Dennis Prager made quite a name for himself (and a few bucks making the talk show rounds) saying Ellison doesn't have the right to swear an oath on the Koran. Then, later some white-haired fuckbag of a host whose name I can't remember asked Ellison in an interview "how can we be sure you're not working with the enemy?" And the internets are lousy with jack-offs and dickweeds endorsing (I can't even say "all but" before that) camps for Muslims. Hell, there are paranoid numbskulls who actually believe we - the United States of America - are just one liberal politician away from falling under Sharia law ourselves.

    You know, it might not be "American Idol" popular, but there's certainly a trend going on.


    Though there is certainly Muslim bashing in America, there is no watered down Christian version of Sharia law going on here, and there are no laws outlawing Islam. People say stupid things, there is no question about that, but citizens saying stupid things isnt the same thing as policy implemented by the government, which is what Sharia law, or outlawing Christianity in Iran are.
  • dg1979us wrote:
    You just said you were pointing the finger at America because the OP was from America. Your confusing.

    yes i probably am... in fact if you read i'm answering an assumption, then making my point at saying that the only thing i said is that "it's a trend in america to bash muslim". It doesn't make the USA responsible for the Sharia, i was also clear about that. But yes to end this debate about my personality, i'm a close minded confusing geek.
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    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • darkcrowdarkcrow Posts: 1,102
    mammasan wrote:
    I wasn't aware of that

    no worries. this board is about infomation and education as well as trying to strangle eachother lol. yeah the american govt ahve been funding them and giving them arms for so many years because the union of islamic courts (i think that is their name) have been gaining huge support from the people. the warlords according to reports were/are really repressive and the people hated them. many now say the new "rulers" are much fairer.... i dunno if that is true but if they have popular public support.....
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    RainDog wrote:
    I'd support going in to Darfur if that's what it took to stop the crisis there.

    There's a huge difference between getting involved in a war to stop a genocide in progress, and going in and annihilating countless civilians long after the murders stopped.

    Moral Equivalence at its best....

    Shia's with a chip on their shoulder hiding IED's on the street in an attempt to kill civillian sunni's is the same thing as American troops dropping a bomb on a house full of these crooked Shia fucks, and inadvertantly killing the family who lived in the house. Yes, that's the same thing huh?

    America hasn't been and isn't the cause of all the civillain deaths. It's the warlords, terrorist factions and religous leaders who are orchastrating the killing of civillians. I haven't heard of any American death squads running around Baghdad, but I sure as hell have heard of others.
  • NCfan wrote:
    Moral Equivalence at its best....

    Shia's with a chip on their shoulder hiding IED's on the street in an attempt to kill civillian sunni's is the same thing as American troops dropping a bomb on a house full of these crooked Shia fucks, and inadvertantly killing the family who lived in the house. Yes, that's the same thing huh?

    America hasn't been and isn't the cause of all the civillain deaths. It's the warlords, terrorist factions and religous leaders who are orchastrating the killing of civillians. I haven't heard of any American death squads running around Baghdad, but I sure as hell have heard of others.

    Darfur as something to do with a government bombing an whole province, just put peacekeepers, armed peacekeepers, and violence will drop dramaticly, and it's not coming from my confusing brain, but from General Roméo Dallaire brain...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • darkcrowdarkcrow Posts: 1,102
    Darfur as something to do with a government bombing an whole province, just put peacekeepers, armed peacekeepers, and violence will drop dramaticly, and it's not coming from my confusing brain, but from General Roméo Dallaire brain...

    to be fair an african union armed peacekeeping force supplimented by indian and other troops is there but it is woefully understrength and underfunded. the sudanese govt have agreed to a deal which involved the un too... so here is hoping it is sorted soon
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    dg1979us wrote:
    Though there is certainly Muslim bashing in America, there is no watered down Christian version of Sharia law going on here, and there are no laws outlawing Islam. People say stupid things, there is no question about that, but citizens saying stupid things isnt the same thing as policy implemented by the government, which is what Sharia law, or outlawing Christianity in Iran are.
    Citizens in large numbers saying stupid things in a democracy could lead to Political Action Committees that, in turn, influence politicians.

    I'm not saying we're implementing laws here. I'm simply pointing out idiots who do believe in a watered down Christian version of Saria law. I want us to all point and laugh. I don't want laws against them, that wouldn't be right in a free and open society. I just want them to be anathemas in the general public.
  • darkcrow wrote:
    to be fair an african union armed peacekeeping force supplimented by indian and other troops is there but it is woefully understrength and underfunded. the sudanese govt have agreed to a deal which involved the un too... so here is hoping it is sorted soon

    Here's hoping too, too bad Iran, Iraq and the whole muslims religions thing is more important that what's going on in Darfur in the medias (and unfortunatly in public opinion's mind).

    Btw, Dallaire is not a fool, he knows it wouldn't END violence, but it would help some areas, cause major humanitarian crisis are in the waiting of happening in most refugees camp, where they're waiting for thousands to die, not of bombs, but lack of water, food and sanitarian means. Bravos to all the organisations who are courageous enough to stay in those camp to help.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    NCfan wrote:
    Moral Equivalence at its best....

    Shia's with a chip on their shoulder hiding IED's on the street in an attempt to kill civillian sunni's is the same thing as American troops dropping a bomb on a house full of these crooked Shia fucks, and inadvertantly killing the family who lived in the house. Yes, that's the same thing huh?

    America hasn't been and isn't the cause of all the civillain deaths. It's the warlords, terrorist factions and religous leaders who are orchastrating the killing of civillians. I haven't heard of any American death squads running around Baghdad, but I sure as hell have heard of others.
    No. But I did hear of a war, or something, hard to tell these days, that the United States started. In Iraq, I think. Something about a ruthless dictator who slaughtered people in his own population while we looked away - only to later use that slaughter as a rallying cry for war, like, ten or more years after it was over.

    Then, I seem to remember - now, correct me if I'm wrong - that a civil war erupted between disparate populations in the area after the once ruthless leader was overthrown. That it was something we didn't plan for (despite evidence obvious to this keyboard jockey a year before the damn thing was started), and that it wasn't happening when we moved in.

    Oh, and those bombs we drop - they can judge a man's soul while they fall, right? That way they only kill the bad guys. And the families of those who die, they understand and will fall hand over foot just to be our friends.
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