Israel admits to nukes..

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  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Read the part I've highlighted.
    Maybe the reason for secrecy was so that the U.S would not be charged with violating the treaty by supplying nuclear materials to Israel?

    no that's wrong because Israel built its nuclear reactor with FRENCH help in the 1950s well before the treaty was in affect. Israel produces its own nuclear material.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    dayan wrote:
    no that's wrong because Israel built its nuclear reactor with FRENCH help in the 1950s well before the treaty was in affect. Israel produces its own nuclear material.

    Perhaps they simply didn't wish to upset their neighbours in the region and to also be seen as international pariahs by stockpiling weapons whilst others had vowed to decrease theirs?
    Either way, I suspect that their intentions were not particularly noble.
  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Any nuke is bad......
    Unless it's this Nuke...

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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    Eh, big deal. (makes unimpressed wanking motion)

    Vice President "Bingo Bob" Russell was aware of this 3 or 4 years ago.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Perhaps they simply didn't wish to upset their neighbours in the region and to also be seen as international pariahs by stockpiling weapons whilst others had vowed to decrease theirs?
    Either way, I suspect that their intentions were not particularly noble.

    Oh yea i bet other countries like iran and egypt ( at the time) were real trust worthy.

    I fully support Israels nuclear proliferation.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Israel having nukes is bad, from the standpoint that more nukes in the world in general is bad. But the threat of Israel nuking somebody completely unprovoked is probably about 0%. And if there is currently a nation in the world whose drive to obtain nukes was somewhat understandable, it is Israel.
    They were more than a little provoked.
  • RavennaSeattle1911
    RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    Im Very Glad To Hear Israel Has Nukes!!
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  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:
    Im Very Glad To Hear Israel Has Nukes!!

    Yeah lets have party!

    We should all get nukes!

    Fuck Canada get some fucking nukes already...I want to have the ability to wipe out masses of innocent people at a press of the finger...
  • hailhailkc
    hailhailkc Posts: 582
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Yeah lets have party!

    We should all get nukes!

    Fuck Canada get some fucking nukes already...I want to have the ability to wipe out masses of innocent people at a press of the finger...

    Your country already helped do that with it's support of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan...remember?
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  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    hailhailkc wrote:
    Your country already helped do that with it's support of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan...remember?

    Well we didn't help in Iraq...I see to recall our PM asking to see something called evidence and none was present so we passed on that idea.... and we are one of the leading forces in Afganistan....for some reason I do not understand.....
  • hailhailkc
    hailhailkc Posts: 582
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Well we didn't help in Iraq...I see to recall our PM asking to see something called evidence and none was present so we passed on that idea.... and we are one of the leading forces in Afganistan....for some reason I do not understand.....

    Don't kid yourself. You're over there...
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2003/03/27/cdnsoldiers030327.html

    And since it's obvious that Canadian troops are helping to lead the way in Afghanistan, wouldn't that mean that Canada is helping to aid this war of "greed and lies"?

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  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    hailhailkc wrote:
    Don't kid yourself. You're over there...
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2003/03/27/cdnsoldiers030327.html

    And since it's obvious that Canadian troops are helping to lead the way in Afghanistan, wouldn't that mean that Canada is helping to aid this war of "greed and lies"?

    ???

    Well good for them....you know I meant under a parliamentary call for action....and yeah a Liberal government sent us over there...

    Im ashamed of it too be honest with you...actually no I was proud when we focused on the re-building aspects of the mission...now we are in the combative role...which I don't agree with...our current Conservative government may fall because of this....the Afganistan mission I could always understand intially in the non-combative role however now I view our efforts as futile as I view those of American soldiers in Iraq.....
  • Scubascott
    Scubascott Posts: 815
    "According to the Non-Proliferation Treaty of 1968, the world recognizes the right of the U.S., the former Soviet Union (replaced by Russia), China, Britain and France to be nuclear powers. India and Pakistan are also nuclear powers for all intents and purposes, and while the world does not recognize their right to be, it accepts it as a fact. Recently North Korea apparently joined the club."

    'Right' to be a nuclear power? Is that like the 'right' to bear arms? I wonder, are all the people in the US who cling so desperately to their right to own firearms 'for defense purposes' the same ones who would prevent North Korea and Iran from having nuclear weapons 'for defense purposes'?
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  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Byrnzie wrote:
    A traitor? To Israel perhaps, to the world, no. He was a hero for disclosing Israel's illegal and potentially apocalyptic nuclear arsenal. Only someone with a fascist mindset would think differently.
    You don't think this has anything to do with human rights or democracy? I'd be interested to know how you regard human rights and democracy then. I imagine they must be pretty paltry and disposable concepts in your scheme of things.
    There is not an israel post this guy cant avoid. You probably know a thing or two about the fascist mindset. enlighten us.
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Read the part I've highlighted.
    Maybe the reason for secrecy was so that the U.S would not be charged with violating the treaty by supplying nuclear materials to Israel?

    Your friends the French, not the US, built Dimona, just like they built Osirak in Iraq. The US had no part in Dimona and were against it at the time. Cant you just read a book.....?
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Canadians love to criticize the american government.

    But when faced with the acknowledgment that their government follows america like a retarted younger brother, they get all antsy.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.

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