U.K cant find serial killer

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edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
LEVINGTON, England - Police hunting a serial killer who is murdering women at a rate unprecedented in British criminal history urged prostitutes on Wednesday to stay off the streets.

Five naked bodies have been found near the eastern English port town of Ipswich in the last 11 days, terrifying the community in an area where serious crime is relatively rare.

Detectives have identified three of the dead women as prostitutes. Police said they feared the other two bodies may be sex workers from Ipswich who had been reported missing.

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Paula Clennell, 24, has not been seen since Saturday and Annette Nicholls, 29, has been missing for at least a week.

“Three of their peers have been murdered, now tragically possibly another two. It’s not safe. They need to stay off the streets,” Detective Chief Superintendent Stewart Gull told BBC radio.

Another Jack the Ripper?
The discovery of so many victims in so few days has raised fears another “Ripper” targeting prostitutes is on the loose.

The most notorious such killer was the 19th-century murderer known as Jack the Ripper, blamed for the deaths of five prostitutes in east London in 1888 but never found.

The most prolific was Peter Sutcliffe, called the Yorkshire Ripper, who murdered 13 women, mainly prostitutes, in northern England from 1975 to 1980 before he was caught.

Reinforcements have been sent in to help the small Suffolk police force in its largest inquiry. Prime Minister Tony Blair’s office said it had been in touch with police to ensure all necessary resources were available.

Police said they had received more than 2,000 telephone calls from members of the public in just five hours.

“Our number one priority is to find the person or persons responsible,” said Gull.

“We are coming into the festive period and people are going to be out and about. We would advise them to take care,” he told a news conference.

Gull said all five women had been murdered elsewhere and their bodies dumped. Police were looking for the murder scenes.

The News of the World, Britain’s biggest selling newspaper, offered a reward of 250,000 pounds ($490,000) for the capture of the person it dubbed the “Suffolk Strangler.”

'Cold-blooded and skilful'
The two latest bodies were discovered in Levington, east of Ipswich, close to where the naked body of another victim, Anneli Alderton, 24, was found in woodland on Sunday.

Mike Berry, a criminal psychologist, said the Ipswich killer was an “exceptionally cold-blooded” and “skilful” operator.

“The killer may be confident he will not be caught,” he wrote in the Daily Mirror. “He will be fascinated by the coverage of the case ... he will be thinking ’the game is on’.”

A huge police inquiry began on Dec. 2 when the body of Gemma Adams, 25, was found in a stream near Ipswich. Police found 19-year-old Tania Nicol’s body in the same stream on Dec. 8.

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  • miller8966 wrote:
    LEVINGTON, England - Police hunting a serial killer who is murdering women at a rate unprecedented in British criminal history urged prostitutes on Wednesday to stay off the streets.

    Five naked bodies have been found near the eastern English port town of Ipswich in the last 11 days, terrifying the community in an area where serious crime is relatively rare.

    Detectives have identified three of the dead women as prostitutes. Police said they feared the other two bodies may be sex workers from Ipswich who had been reported missing.

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    Paula Clennell, 24, has not been seen since Saturday and Annette Nicholls, 29, has been missing for at least a week.

    “Three of their peers have been murdered, now tragically possibly another two. It’s not safe. They need to stay off the streets,” Detective Chief Superintendent Stewart Gull told BBC radio.

    Another Jack the Ripper?
    The discovery of so many victims in so few days has raised fears another “Ripper” targeting prostitutes is on the loose.

    The most notorious such killer was the 19th-century murderer known as Jack the Ripper, blamed for the deaths of five prostitutes in east London in 1888 but never found.

    The most prolific was Peter Sutcliffe, called the Yorkshire Ripper, who murdered 13 women, mainly prostitutes, in northern England from 1975 to 1980 before he was caught.

    Reinforcements have been sent in to help the small Suffolk police force in its largest inquiry. Prime Minister Tony Blair’s office said it had been in touch with police to ensure all necessary resources were available.

    Police said they had received more than 2,000 telephone calls from members of the public in just five hours.

    “Our number one priority is to find the person or persons responsible,” said Gull.

    “We are coming into the festive period and people are going to be out and about. We would advise them to take care,” he told a news conference.

    Gull said all five women had been murdered elsewhere and their bodies dumped. Police were looking for the murder scenes.

    The News of the World, Britain’s biggest selling newspaper, offered a reward of 250,000 pounds ($490,000) for the capture of the person it dubbed the “Suffolk Strangler.”

    'Cold-blooded and skilful'
    The two latest bodies were discovered in Levington, east of Ipswich, close to where the naked body of another victim, Anneli Alderton, 24, was found in woodland on Sunday.

    Mike Berry, a criminal psychologist, said the Ipswich killer was an “exceptionally cold-blooded” and “skilful” operator.

    “The killer may be confident he will not be caught,” he wrote in the Daily Mirror. “He will be fascinated by the coverage of the case ... he will be thinking ’the game is on’.”

    A huge police inquiry began on Dec. 2 when the body of Gemma Adams, 25, was found in a stream near Ipswich. Police found 19-year-old Tania Nicol’s body in the same stream on Dec. 8.

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    The amazing thing is the public finally being able to see how brave prostitutes are, as even now with 5 murdered, they will not be deterred from performing their civic duty of fucking for crack and smack.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    The amazing thing is the public finally being able to see how brave prostitutes are, as even now with 5 murdered, they will not be deterred from performing their civic duty of fucking for crack and smack.

    that might be the funniest post ive ever read.
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  • I hate hearing stories about this regardless of who is being killed....lets just hope they do catch this evil bastard....sooner than later.....
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    The keystone cops in this country really are useless. 3 confirmed deaths this morning, and two girls missing, and yet they were still debating on the t.v news this morning whether there was a connection between them and of whether there might be a serial killer on the loose.

    I know in Ipswich they have more important things to do, like tractor racing, and turnip munching competitions, but this is taking it too far.
  • I hate hearing stories about this regardless of who is being killed....lets just hope they do catch this evil bastard....sooner than later.....

    I hope they get him too....
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I hope they get him too....

    How do you know it's a man? :confused:

    I may have to take you in for questioning. :cool: ;)
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    How do you know it's a man? :confused:

    I may have to take you in for questioning. :cool: ;)

    My prediction:

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  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    A few days ago on tv they interviewed a prostitute there and she was saying how despite the bodies being found she would still be out on the street because she really needed the money. She apparently went missing a few days later and is thought to be one of the 5 dead bodies they have now found.
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  • stu gee wrote:
    A few days ago on tv they interviewed a prostitute there and she was saying how despite the bodies being found she would still be out on the street because she really needed the money. She apparently went missing a few days later and is thought to be one of the 5 dead bodies they have now found.

    there's a good chance that the killer watched that girl being interviewed and targeted her. he would have known the area she was working in and looked for her. that would be my guess.
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  • aBoxOfFear wrote:
    there's a good chance that the killer watched that girl being interviewed and targeted her. he would have known the area she was working in and looked for her. that would be my guess.

    Or she knew her attacker, and trusted him enough to go with him. That's another possibility.
  • Five?

    Ha ha ha ha, once again the US is number one at something else in the world. Nice try Brits, but you kids got a long way to go.

    Check out my two local boys, one's got the confirmed record at 48 and the other's an alumnist of my school, yeah allright! :)


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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Sounds like a classic type serial killer.

    Killing prostitutes because he feels worthless to society. He feels that by killing prostitutes he is cleaning up other scum, which will give him a name and make him famous. Psychopathy.

    I hope they find him, it won't be easy though.

    Guys like this know how to mesh into society, they have been trying to be a part of it for a long time. He definately won't stand out like a sore thumb. He's gonna look like everyone else.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Sounds like a classic type serial killer.

    Killing prostitutes because he feels worthless to society. He feels that by killing prostitutes he is cleaning up other scum, which will give him a name and make him famous. Psychopathy.

    quote]

    Totally, totally, toally, wrong analysis. He isnt some evangelical christian trying to rid society of prostitution.

    He does this because either

    A) he holds a grudge against women...be it from child hood or from relationship experience.

    B) He preys on them because they are easy targets. No one goes ballistic when a prostitute addicted to crack has gone astray for a few days.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Ahnimus wrote:
    He definately won't stand out like a sore thumb. He's gonna look like everyone else.

    As opposed to who? :confused: I've not seen anyone in the street recently that I've identified as a serial killer. I doubt they have any distinguishing features like horns on their heads or anything. But then, I could be wrong. :cool:
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Byrnzie wrote:
    As opposed to who? :confused: I've not seen anyone in the street recently that I've identified as a serial killer. I doubt they have any distinguishing features like horns on their heads or anything. But then, I could be wrong. :cool:

    That's what I thought when they said it on the news.

    There I was picturing this guy in a long rain coat, scruffy beard, possibly carrying a hook and he might very well have an eye-patch, he probably drives a pick-up truck and he will be accompanied by creepy music, if I'm not mistaken.
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    Totally, totally, toally, wrong analysis. He isnt some evangelical christian trying to rid society of prostitution.

    He does this because either

    A) he holds a grudge against women...be it from child hood or from relationship experience.

    B) He preys on them because they are easy targets. No one goes ballistic when a prostitute addicted to crack has gone astray for a few days.


    stop talking shit about things you arent sure of...

    "Consultant forensic psychologist Dr Ian Stephen has worked on previous serial killer cases and advised the makers of the TV drama Cracker.

    He said although there was little information to build up a clear profile of who may have killed these women, it was possible to hypothesise about what the person may be like.

    Police have not said they are looking for a serial killer but have said there are similarities in the murder of Ms Alderton to the killings of Ms Nicol and Ms Adams.


    Dr Stephen said the suspect was probably male, white, in his late 20s, 30s or 40s, and is someone who probably had been let down by women in his past.

    "We need to look at how these crimes are connected," he said. My worry is that his perception of women will change and he will see any woman who's out on the street at night on their own as a prostitute

    Dr Ian Stephen
    "The victims are prostitutes, they are in the same area - so he could have a particular issue with women whatever origin that is from."

    "He maybe had a mother who has let him down, or a mother who has abandoned him," he added. "In some sense he may have idolised women and then they let him down."

    But he also said the killer might believe he is on "some kind of Christian mission... clearing the world of prostitutes".


    I also read today that he may be reeking revenge on women after picking up a Sexually Transmitted Disease.. this was from a police criminologist as well!!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Five?

    Ha ha ha ha, once again the US is number one at something else in the world. Nice try Brits, but you kids got a long way to go.

    Check out my two local boys, one's got the confirmed record at 48 and the other's an alumnist of my school, yeah allright! :)


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgeway


    fucking pathetic attempts at killing if you ask me ;)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/caseclosed/shipman.shtml

    "Harold Shipman may be the most prolific serial killer in the world.

    An audit by the Department of Health estimated he was responsible for 236 murders over 24 years.

    But nobody knows exactly what his motive may have been. Shipman was found dead in his cell in January 2004 and has taken his secrets to the grave.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Byrnzie wrote:
    How do you know it's a man? :confused:


    1. a prostitute wont get into a car with a woman
    2. its a man


    simple huh ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    stop talking shit about things you arent sure of...

    "Consultant forensic psychologist Dr Ian Stephen has worked on previous serial killer cases and advised the makers of the TV drama Cracker.

    He said although there was little information to build up a clear profile of who may have killed these women, it was possible to hypothesise about what the person may be like.

    Police have not said they are looking for a serial killer but have said there are similarities in the murder of Ms Alderton to the killings of Ms Nicol and Ms Adams.


    Dr Stephen said the suspect was probably male, white, in his late 20s, 30s or 40s, and is someone who probably had been let down by women in his past.

    "We need to look at how these crimes are connected," he said. My worry is that his perception of women will change and he will see any woman who's out on the street at night on their own as a prostitute

    Dr Ian Stephen
    "The victims are prostitutes, they are in the same area - so he could have a particular issue with women whatever origin that is from."

    "He maybe had a mother who has let him down, or a mother who has abandoned him," he added. "In some sense he may have idolised women and then they let him down."

    But he also said the killer might believe he is on "some kind of Christian mission... clearing the world of prostitutes".


    I also read today that he may be reeking revenge on women after picking up a Sexually Transmitted Disease.. this was from a police criminologist as well!!

    LoL. Ahh time for me to own you again. All i was givign was my hypothesis...if you want to think its some christian nut have fun with that...but you will most likely be wrong ( but your used to that arent you?).
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I know in Ipswich they have more important things to do, like tractor racing, and turnip munching competitions, but this is taking it too far.
    Maybe the killer is some dude who lost a turnip munching contest to a woman??? ;)
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    LoL. Ahh time for me to own you again. All i was givign was my hypothesis...if you want to think its some christian nut have fun with that...but you will most likely be wrong ( but your used to that arent you?).


    what the fuck you on about... you never 'owned' me :confused:


    your hypothesis is a pile of shit.... on one hand we have a seasoned, erudite criminal pyschologist saying it might be an evangelical fuckhead with a grudge against sin... and on the other we have Miller8966 a delivery guy from New Jersey, with intensely bad grammar problems, who thinks it might be a big bad man





    awesome hypothesis dude... you should be writing the curriculum for the americas top universities
    miller wrote:
    Totally, totally, toally, wrong analysis. He isnt some evangelical christian trying to rid society of prostitution.

    He does this because either

    A) he holds a grudge against women...be it from child hood or from relationship experience.

    B) He preys on them because they are easy targets. No one goes ballistic when a prostitute addicted to crack has gone astray for a few days.[/b]



    oh and "your" and "you're" are 2 different things :rolleyes:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    what the fuck you on about... you never 'owned' me :confused:


    your hypothesis is a pile of shit.... on one hand we have a seasoned, erudite criminal pyschologist saying it might be an evangelical fuckhead with a grudge against sin... and on the other we have Miller8966 a delivery guy from New Jersey, with intensely bad grammar problems, who thinks it might be a big bad man





    awesome hypothesis dude... you should be writing the curriculum for the americas top universities
    miller wrote:
    Totally, totally, toally, wrong analysis. He isnt some evangelical christian trying to rid society of prostitution.

    He does this because either

    A) he holds a grudge against women...be it from child hood or from relationship experience.

    B) He preys on them because they are easy targets. No one goes ballistic when a prostitute addicted to crack has gone astray for a few days.[/b]



    oh and "your" and "you're" are 2 different things :rolleyes:

    Its one criminologists opinion....its not cemented in stone.

    At one point during your idiotic ramblings you thought it was a service men. Now you say its a christian....

    These people are wrong alot of the time. All they are making is an educated guess. If these people were so smart why couldnt they find the green river killer? Again its only a guess.

    And lol@ grammar...its a fucking pearl jam forum. If you get the gist of what im saying that should be enough.
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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    miller8966 wrote:
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Sounds like a classic type serial killer.

    Killing prostitutes because he feels worthless to society. He feels that by killing prostitutes he is cleaning up other scum, which will give him a name and make him famous. Psychopathy.

    quote]

    Totally, totally, toally, wrong analysis. He isnt some evangelical christian trying to rid society of prostitution.

    He does this because either

    A) he holds a grudge against women...be it from child hood or from relationship experience.

    B) He preys on them because they are easy targets. No one goes ballistic when a prostitute addicted to crack has gone astray for a few days.


    LMAO !! Watching CSI or Silence of the Lambs has made Miller an expert on serial killers. Get back on your couch and get back to being a cereal killer.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    miller8966 wrote:


    LMAO !! Watching CSI or Silence of the Lambs has made Miller an expert on serial killers. Get back on your couch and get back to being a cereal killer.

    I have more experience than you do in this field.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    1. a prostitute wont get into a car with a woman
    2. its a man


    simple huh ;)

    She/it may have dragged them into a car? :confused:
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    tybird wrote:
    Maybe the killer is some dude who lost a turnip munching contest to a woman??? ;)

    Or he may have been cut up in his tractor by a woman in a car on his way to the local barn dance and it pushed him over the edge? :confused:
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    miller8966 wrote:
    what the fuck you on about... you never 'owned' me :confused:


    your hypothesis is a pile of shit.... on one hand we have a seasoned, erudite criminal pyschologist saying it might be an evangelical fuckhead with a grudge against sin... and on the other we have Miller8966 a delivery guy from New Jersey, with intensely bad grammar problems, who thinks it might be a big bad man





    awesome hypothesis dude... you should be writing the curriculum for the americas top universities



    Its one criminologists opinion....its not cemented in stone.

    At one point during your idiotic ramblings you thought it was a service men. Now you say its a christian....

    These people are wrong alot of the time. All they are making is an educated guess. If these people were so smart why couldnt they find the green river killer? Again its only a guess.

    And lol@ grammar...its a fucking pearl jam forum. If you get the gist of what im saying that should be enough.

    Is it me or did you just attack yourself in this thread Miller? :confused:
    My head is now spinning with images of Miller criticising himself, dead women, tractors and turnip munching criminal pyschologist's who look like Jesus!! :eek:
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    miller8966 wrote:

    Is it me or did you just attack yourself in this thread Miller? :confused:
    My head is now spinning with images of Miller criticising himself, dead women, tractors and turnip munching criminal pyschologist's who look like Jesus!! :eek:

    where did i attack myself?
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