Eddie believes in 911 inside job?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

Of course not. Most architects and people qualified to know this stuff, dont agree with you though. And Chomsky avoids it because he doesnt believe it was an inside job.

really?

ae911truth.org

try again...

dg1979us

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The bottoms of the buildings had nothing to do with an airplane. They were designed to sway in hurricane type forces. They didn't even budge on 9/11 from the impacts.

The downward momentum and forces involved to keep plowing continuously through massive vertical steel support columns over and over again *at/extremely near free fall speed* all the way to the ground.....it's just no there..

In a hollywood FX movie maybe.

Just curious, do you have formulas and actual physical support for this argument. Or, just going with the eyeball test? Just honestly curious of your qualifications.

nobody

nobody wrote:

this article gives some information on other buildings collapsing in (not exactly) similiar fashion:

http://web.archive.org/web/200407191802 ... +paper.pdf

m.

I linked an article but it got lost on the last page...

dg1979us

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

really?

ae911truth.org

try again...

I can sign that petition if I want too. I am not an architect or engineer. If you seriously think that an internet site that anyone can sign and simply lie about their qualifications is a credible source, then you are obviously persuaded much easier than I.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

Just curious, do you have formulas and actual physical support for this argument. Or, just going with the eyeball test? Just honestly curious of your qualifications.

Eyeball test?

Vertical steel columns, and uniform (essentially) free fall speed is all I need to think about to understand this situation and how it's not possible.

Those buildings went poof all the way to the ground from fire.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

I can sign that petition if I want too. I am not an architect or engineer. If you seriously think that an internet site that anyone can sign and simply lie about their qualifications is a credible source, then you are obviously persuaded much easier than I.

yeah?

Go ahead and try...you'll need to provide you architects license number...

uhh....doh...

http://www.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php

dg1979us

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Eyeball test?

Vertical steel columns, and uniform (essentially) free fall speed is all I need to think about to understand this situation and how it's not possible.

Those buildings went poof all the way to the ground from fire.

So in other words, its the eyeball test. Not taking into consideration force, momentum, heat, etc etc etc. Again, not hacking on ya, just curious of your qualifications.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

So in other words, its the eyeball test. Not taking into consideration force, momentum, heat, etc etc etc. Again, not hacking on ya, just curious of your qualifications.

All one needs in this situation is the basics of newtons motion laws. Understand what kind of extreme temperatures are required to melt steel help as well.

dg1979us

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

All one needs in this situation is the basics of newtons motion laws. Understand what kind of extreme temperatures are required to melt steel help as well.

Also understanding that the temperatures were hot enough to make the steel lose over half its strength also helps. Steel doesnt have to melt, to become weak enough to not support the structure.

nobody

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

All one needs in this situation is the basics of newtons motion laws. Understand what kind of extreme temperatures are required to melt steel help as well.

make an effort and read the article I linked if you haven't yet...

m.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

Jumping off a picnic table isnt going to have the force or momentum of a large plane hitting a large building. Your are way over simplifing this.

Not really when you think about it, and factor in relativity. The vertical steel building is a lot stronger than human flesh and bone.

Tensile strength of steel is insanely strong.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

Also understanding that the temperatures were hot enough to make the steel lose over half its strength also helps. Steel doesnt have to melt, to become weak enough to not support the structure.

yes but you see it did melt....it was found in the basements of all three buildings.

So how?

dg1979us

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

yes but you see it did melt....it was found in the basements of all three buildings.

So how?

Do you have a link for that?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

Also understanding that the temperatures were hot enough to make the steel lose over half its strength also helps. Steel doesnt have to melt, to become weak enough to not support the structure.

Yes and the heat was very much isolated and not throughout the entire building.

A lot of perfectly good unaffected building (and much stronger than above... by design) to plow through at free fall speed.

It was as if they weren't even there... as if all the vertical support columns were negated all at once.

hmm

RolandTD20Kdrummer

dg1979us wrote:

Do you have a link for that?

There's a bunch via google.

dg1979us

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

There's a bunch via google.

And the first one I came to says it was aluminum, not steel, and the molten metals isnt a characteristic of a controlled demolition anyway. If you have a specific link I would be more than happy to look at it. Im at work, so cant do video. But the very first link I pulled up said any molten metals was aluminum, not steel.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

It's like saying if you jump off a picnic table your head will plow through your entire body if you have a weak vertebrae...

you're silly

nobody

dg1979us wrote:

And the first one I came to says it was aluminum, not steel, and the molten metals isnt a characteristic of a controlled demolition anyway. If you have a specific link I would be more than happy to look at it. Im at work, so cant do video. But the very first link I pulled up said any molten metals was aluminum, not steel.

what's the difference anyway...
steel, aluminum...same thing...

m.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

you're silly

I agree it is silly isn't it....so is the official story. Now were getting somewhere!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

nobody wrote:

what's the difference anyway...
steel, aluminum...same thing...

m.

It's important actually. They melt at different temperatures. There were actually three floors found fused i.e. melter together. It's known as the WTC meteorite.

also for more information on impossible temperatures (confirmed by NASA)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thermite.html