Really disappointed with this board...

LaterDays

I remember an episode of some reality TV show I ran across a few months back... one of those featuring washed-up celebrities making an ass of themselves (without realizing it of course) one last time. And on this particular episode, Vanilla Ice spouted off some ridiculous rhetoric about how all of modern technology has been given to mankind by a "super alien race" that spawned and maintains life on this planet and secretly controls the government officials of highly industrialized nations. He argued the concept vehemently and sincerely believed every word of it.

I don't come on here very often, usually stick to the Porch and then get my political mouth fed elsewhere. But I do visit here on occasion, and when I do, I expect to find meaningful, intelligent debate. Now maybe I haven't searched diligently enough this afternoon, but all I've found are these incompetent, asinine, high-school level conspiracy bullshit posts that, I would guess, wouldn't even impress Vanilla Ice. And they're not even intelligently presented, I might add.

I realize that, having not started any meaningful threads myself, my accusations may seem a bit hypocritical... but, really, what's the point? Where have all the insightful, educated people gone? Are their posts just dominated by these poser-intellectuals?

I'll check back some other time... maybe next time I'm in the mood for "The X-Files" but can't find it on TV.

Rhinocerous Surprise

This board has actually been taken over by a "super alien race", and their understanding of our human ways is limited at best. They can only assume that our "speaking boxes" (televisions) are dominated by some evil, dictatorial madman, and that our "info-tubes" (the internet) are the way to spread their message.

Also, they speak in a curious, lilting tongue.

sponger

LaterDays wrote:

I realize that, having not started any meaningful threads myself, my accusations may seem a bit hypocritical.

Don't worry about it. I like to think that I'm superior to everyone too.

Nevermind

Well, 98% of our dna is alien to this planet.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i have an insightful, educated debate goin on in my pants, but you're not invited!

prism

yeah the tin-foil hat wearing koo-koos do tend to run amuck around here

Nevermind

prism wrote:

yeah the tin-foil hat wearing koo-koos do tend to run amuck around here

Yeah, anyone who doesnt trust this government is crazy.

OutOfBreath

Nevermind wrote:

Yeah, anyone who doesnt trust this government is crazy.

Distrust is fine. paranoia is not.

Seriously though, LaterDays, there are good debates at times on this board, but they tend to drown among the others at times.

Peace
Dan

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LaterDays wrote:

I remember an episode of some reality TV show I ran across a few months back... one of those featuring washed-up celebrities making an ass of themselves (without realizing it of course) one last time. And on this particular episode, Vanilla Ice spouted off some ridiculous rhetoric about how all of modern technology has been given to mankind by a "super alien race" that spawned and maintains life on this planet and secretly controls the government officials of highly industrialized nations. He argued the concept vehemently and sincerely believed every word of it.

I don't come on here very often, usually stick to the Porch and then get my political mouth fed elsewhere. But I do visit here on occasion, and when I do, I expect to find meaningful, intelligent debate. Now maybe I haven't searched diligently enough this afternoon, but all I've found are these incompetent, asinine, high-school level conspiracy bullshit posts that, I would guess, wouldn't even impress Vanilla Ice. And they're not even intelligently presented, I might add.

I realize that, having not started any meaningful threads myself, my accusations may seem a bit hypocritical... but, really, what's the point? Where have all the insightful, educated people gone? Are their posts just dominated by these poser-intellectuals?

I'll check back some other time... maybe next time I'm in the mood for "The X-Files" but can't find it on TV.

What would you like (us) to talk about?

redsdisease

As far as I can tell, most of these conspiracy threads have been started by 4 or 5 very vocal members of the board.

boxwine_in_hell

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

This board has actually been taken over by a "super alien race", and their understanding of our human ways is limited at best. They can only assume that our "speaking boxes" (televisions) are dominated by some evil, dictatorial madman, and that our "info-tubes" (the internet) are the way to spread their message.

Also, they speak in a curious, lilting tongue.

This cracked me up!

Nevermind

OutOfBreath wrote:

Distrust is fine. paranoia is not.

Seriously though, LaterDays, there are good debates at times on this board, but they tend to drown among the others at times.

Peace
Dan

Of course it paranoid to think that a government could try and enslave the people.

FinsburyParkCarrots

LaterDays wrote:

I don't come on here very often, usually stick to the Porch and then get my political mouth fed elsewhere.

Never allow your political mouth to be fed by anyone. That's one sensory analogy best avoided.

sponger

Nevermind wrote:

Of course it paranoid to think that a government could try and enslave the people.

But it gets to the point when it's time for people to put down the Rage Against the Machine Albums and start thinking for themselves.

DriftingByTheStorm

redsdisease wrote:

As far as I can tell, most of these conspiracy threads have been started by 4 or 5 very vocal members of the board.

Like who?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/killerpunkbunny/GeorgeBushEatingA_kitten.jpg

sponger

Sadly enough, a lot of the far out lefty opinions posted on this board nowadays echo the sentiment of many people not only abroad but also in the states these days. Even though it seems like few people would be that susceptible to brainwashing, it's becoming more and more of a reality with the advent of the internet and the bombardment of biased information on the minds of the lesser-educated.

And so a big part of why I frequent this board is so that I at least have an idea of just how skewed peoples' opinions are becoming.

Nevermind

sponger wrote:

But it gets to the point when it's time for people to put down the Rage Against the Machine Albums and start thinking for themselves.

I stopped listening to Rage a couple years ago. If you think I am unable to think for myself you are mistaken. Can anyone explain why building 7 fell on 9.11?

DriftingByTheStorm

sponger wrote:

... a lot of the far out lefty opinions posted on this board...

What do you mean by "far out lefty" ...

are you refering to the "conspiracy nuts", because i thought generaly they were accused of being "extreme right wingers" masked up to get new recruits under the guise of fearmongering?

I'll tell you what i think, anyhow ...

I know what the OP is talking about, and maintain in counter argument that what is truly "incompetent, asinine, high-school level [...] bullshit" is this silly fucking fair-tale notion that those with the real power some how acquired it inspite of being completely stupid ... that instead of there being people with devious cunning and wealth who attempt to manipulate the system and succeed (hell, most of you admit Fox news is so much as a conspiracy to feed you right wing lies) in doing so ... you think that the world is just some happy fucking accident and the government is just totaly stupid and moving along directionless and inept

... and further, to get to this "far out left" crap ... the rest of the people ... and particularly those on "the left" ... even the ones who try to stay out of the conspiratorial arguments ... they themselves have their fair share of "high school level bullshit" in this silly notion that there IS a free lunch, and that it should be served on every corner of every town every hour, on the hour, every day of the week.

This post realy gets me hoping mad.
People are living in a fucking fairy tale bubble ... they think someone is actualy watching out for them, and they think things politicians tell them are realy ment to help YOU, when in fact they are ment to serve someone MUCH different than that. Everytime someone offers you something for free, you should be skeptical as all get out.

Politicians that placate with rhetoric about a piece of the pie for everyone to be had are feeding you nothing but horseshit ... and what you will end up with is massive taxes and debts ... and half of you can't even understand that taking out a loan to pay interest on a loan that was taken out to pay interest on a loan to pay interest on a loan ... can't even see where that might be a serious problem at some point ... or they don't comprehend that the value of their money is just continuously plummeting off a cliff ... and that at SOME point it they might fucking smack in to the ground and bust the silly little head!

Yup. People will fight tooth and nail to defend the integrity of the system, all the while raving and bitching about the whomever is the asshole politician du jur ... but god forbid you try to draw some lines for them and say ... "look goofball, its not just ole GW ... or Cheney isn't just some lone crook ... its not just a bunch of idiots with no clue either ... these people operate like a goddamn ball club ... there are players on the field, there are men on the side sketching out playbooks, and there are broadcasters hypin up this or that, and there are a few old grey haired fucks up in the box who are talking about the big money, and will call down to the coach if they have something to say... get wise to it!" ...

no no ... tell them that there actualy is a gameplan, and they tell you you're a fucking loon.

Because hell, if the system was rigged against you, you sure has fuck would have heard about it on Fox News, right?

:rolleyes:

DriftingByTheStorm

Nevermind wrote:

I stopped listening to Rage a couple years ago. If you think I am unable to think for myself you are mistaken. Can anyone explain why building 7 fell on 9.11?

An even better question, if we're going down that rabbit hole, is how the fuck two seperate news agencies reported live on TV that the building "has just collapsed" ... and yet it didn't actualy fall for another 20minutes ... and the ongoing story was always that no one knew it was in any danger of falling ...

... and then, when it did fall ... just 3 minutes or less before it fell, all these cops were telling people (like someone had apparently ordered them to) ... "get back get back ... its coming down" ...

huh.
that's strange.

now,
i'm not saying someone blew it up,
i'm just asking how the fuck two TV stations and a handful of cops new something was about to come down, when by all acounts it was a fucking freak accident of building mechanics having to do with ... as best NIST can tell ... a cross brace support over the 4-9th floors that was compromised by leaking fuel oil that had caught on fire (which they admit had the most miniscule possibility of actualy happening, but it was their best guess as to what happened) ...

but still point being, who the fuck would have known that to be the case at the time?

Huh.

Weird shit.

Nevermind

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

An even better question, if we're going down that rabbit hole, is how the fuck two seperate news agencies reported live on TV that the building "has just collapsed" ... and yet it didn't actualy fall for another 20minutes ... and the ongoing story was always that no one knew it was in any danger of falling ...

... and then, when it did fall ... just 3 minutes or less before it fell, all these cops were telling people (like someone had apparently ordered them to) ... "get back get back ... its coming down" ...

huh.
that's strange.

now,
i'm not saying someone blew it up,
i'm just asking how the fuck two TV stations and a handful of cops new something was about to come down, when by all acounts it was a fucking freak accident of building mechanics having to do with ... as best NIST can tell ... a cross brace support over the 4-9th floors that was compromised by leaking fuel oil that had caught on fire (which they admit had the most miniscule possibility of actualy happening, but it was their best guess as to what happened) ...

but still point being, who the fuck would have known that to be the case at the time?

Huh.

Weird shit.

There was also molten steel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVLeKwSkXA&feature=related