Some people.

Commy

So I had a friends Obama 08 shirt on the other day, long night, anyway...this guy comes up to me and says,

"good luck with your new president"
to which I replied, "thanks, you too man, he's your president too."

and this fucking douchebag, basically screams,
"He's not my president, I spent 2 years in Nam fighting communists and now we have one in the whitehouse." Seriously bent out of shape in a department store.

So I calmed him down a bit, was like dude, relax....and he goes on to "explain" how Obama has decided to raise FICA by 40%, if you make more than $36,000 a year your fucked, and how businesses all over the country have already felt the affect of Obama's presidency and are going overseas.

I gave him plenty of numbers, described the great depression to him, mentioned I would like to have healthcare, mentioned how I would like to see an end to the occupation of Iraq...the guy had an excuse for everything. Apparently I can get healthcare for 13$ a month at my local grocery store- according to this guy (I am going to check that out). but his favorite word was communist and his scare tactic was how Obama was going to raise FICA by 40%.

Talk about wanting him to fail., He's not even our president yet and people are blaming him for shit he isn't even going to do, or blaming him for Bush policies.

angelica

Commy wrote:

Talk about wanting him to fail., He's not even our president yet and people are blaming him for shit he isn't even going to do, or blaming him for Bush policies.

The old base problem at the heart of the human condition. It's a problem of duality thinking, which most people partake of. If someone is clinging to an ideology rather than assessing a situation accurately, they've got to break things into 'good' and 'bad' due to an inability to understand. Obama is neither a saviour, nor a bad guy. If someone is painting him specifically and continually either way, it's a first clue to some heavy duality thinking happening.

'communism' (or the demonized version that some people seem to like to see) has taken the bad-guy rap for quite awhile.

kenny olav

Was his name Walter Sobchak?

saveuplife

Commy wrote:

So I had a friends Obama 08 shirt on the other day, long night, anyway...this guy comes up to me and says,

"good luck with your new president"
to which I replied, "thanks, you too man, he's your president too."

and this fucking douchebag, basically screams,
"He's not my president, I spent 2 years in Nam fighting communists and now we have one in the whitehouse." Seriously bent out of shape in a department store.

So I calmed him down a bit, was like dude, relax....and he goes on to "explain" how Obama has decided to raise FICA by 40%, if you make more than $36,000 a year your fucked, and how businesses all over the country have already felt the affect of Obama's presidency and are going overseas.

I gave him plenty of numbers, described the great depression to him, mentioned I would like to have healthcare, mentioned how I would like to see an end to the occupation of Iraq...the guy had an excuse for everything. Apparently I can get healthcare for 13$ a month at my local grocery store- according to this guy (I am going to check that out). but his favorite word was communist and his scare tactic was how Obama was going to raise FICA by 40%.

Talk about wanting him to fail., He's not even our president yet and people are blaming him for shit he isn't even going to do, or blaming him for Bush policies.

Off topic question, why did you decide to name yourself "commy"? Just curious.

flywallyfly

Kenny Olav wrote:

Was his name Walter Sobchak?

LOL, good one!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/BlueKnights06/Walter.jpg

Anon

saveuplife wrote:

Off topic question, why did you decide to name yourself "commy"? Just curious.

I'm guessing it's short for 'common' sense. Or a good 'communicator'. Nothing ruffles him, and he is very open to other views. Yay for Commy

Anon

flywallyfly wrote:

LOL, good one!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/BlueKnights06/Walter.jpg

Too funny

saveuplife

Pj_Gurl wrote:

I'm guessing it's short for 'common' sense. Or a good 'communicator'. Nothing ruffles him, and he is very open to other views. Yay for Commy

That's funny, I figured it was because he loves capitalism.

sponger

Commy wrote:

businesses all over the country have already felt the affect of Obama's presidency and are going overseas.

That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Bush is still the acting president.

Commy

Kenny Olav wrote:

Was his name Walter Sobchak?

haha. Mark it zero!

Commy

saveuplife wrote:

Off topic question, why did you decide to name yourself "commy"? Just curious.

it was a long time ago, when Karl Marx seemed like a smart guy. I am a socialist, to some extent...I actually asked Kat if I could change my name one time, but for whatever reason that wasn't possible.

OffHeGoes29

Obama isn't going to end things in Iraq any time soon, and I'm willing to bet he orders an Air strike or two on Iran before long. I also see stepped up operations in Pakistan and in the Horn of Africa as well. He also wants to bring back the Civil Defense and mandate community service....

I didn't vote for the guy, but hes winning me over....

However I'm not down with all these government bail outs that Congress wants to pass, but we can't complain because our stimulus check was a government bail out to the general public. Kind of hypocritical to bitch.

OffHeGoes29

Commy wrote:

it was a long time ago, when Karl Marx seemed like a smart guy. I am a socialist, to some extent...I actually asked Kat if I could change my name one time, but for whatever reason that wasn't possible.

You can't call yourself a socialist, because socialist don't just take, they give as well.....

OffHeGoes29

sponger wrote:

That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Bush is still the acting president.

Don't tell that to people here, you will crush their reality.

Commy

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

Obama isn't going to end things in Iraq any time soon, and I'm willing to bet he orders an Air strike or two on Iran before long. I also see stepped up operations in Pakistan and in the Horn of Africa as well. He also wants to bring back the Civil Defense and mandate community service....

I didn't vote for the guy, but hes winning me over....

However I'm not down with all these government bail outs that Congress wants to pass, but we can't complain because our stimulus check was a government bail out to the general public. Kind of hypocritical to bitch.

truthout wrote:

As the Bush administration rumbles to an end, it is pushing with increasing urgency for a commitment to a long-term US presence in Iraq. Though the military aspect of this 'commitment' has garnered substantial publicity, the administration is equally invested in the economic aspect: securing US control over Iraqi oil before Bush leaves office, according to experts in the field."http://www.truthout.org/111108A

This is standard procedure. I think most people realize by now that the reason the US invaded Iraq was in large part influenced by resources. A president voted in by the people can't change fundamental policy, can barely change foreign policy, but again, its the small things I am thinking are important too. A troop withdrawal or scale down is possible...less Americans in Iraq is a good thing for Iraqis and the Americans.

I agree the bailouts are far from fair. goes back to Reagan's Neoliberal bs, handing billions of taxpayer dollars to the private sector.

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

You can't call yourself a socialist, because socialist don't just take, they give as well....

we all give, any system. more so in capitilaism...or in this neoliberalism we have today.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

stfu Donnie!

PJ_Saluki

Fuck 'em, man. No matter what Obama does, some people simply won't like him or his administration.

Commy

MrSmith wrote:

stfu Donnie!

This isn't Nam. there are rules.

Commy

PJ_Saluki wrote:

Fuck 'em, man. No matter what Obama does, some people simply won't like him or his administration.

agreed. was interesting, he was so fired up about it in a department store. Like I was with my niece, she was checking out shoes and this dude just comes from left field.

the thing that finally got him to think for a second rather than preach was when I mentioned that 43 million Americans are without health insurance, and I was one of them. And that 8 years with Bush didn't change that.

OffHeGoes29

PJ_Saluki wrote:

Fuck 'em, man. No matter what Obama does, some people simply won't like him or his administration.

You can say the same for Bush and Clinton

kenny olav

Commy wrote:

it was a long time ago, when Karl Marx seemed like a smart guy. I am a socialist, to some extent...I actually asked Kat if I could change my name one time, but for whatever reason that wasn't possible.

But since Obama is a commy, then surely you must be one too!

I think Marx's critique of capitalism is spot on, I just don't think his solutions were exactly right.

I think the name still fits ya. It shows your heart's in the right place.

melodious

Commy wrote:

it was a long time ago, when Karl Marx seemed like a smart guy. I am a socialist, to some extent.

commy stems from the word communal, equal parts??????

we are equal parts in a sense, it's just how we view schematics....peace.

polaris

communist, socialist, environmentalist ... whatever -ist ... they are just words with complex meanings but seem to have only the effect on fear to the close-minded ...

name me one value of communism that is worse than lying to the country in order to manufacture a war that has resulted in the loss of over 1 million innocent lives ... just one ...

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Commy wrote:

it was a long time ago, when Karl Marx seemed like a smart guy. I am a socialist, to some extent...I actually asked Kat if I could change my name one time, but for whatever reason that wasn't possible.

I like your name... and your views. Keep up the good work!

OffHeGoes29

Pure Socialism doesn't work, you rely on the integrity and honesty of people for it to be successful....and this won't ever happen. As long as there are greedy people here on earth, they will take advantage of what ever system a government adopts. All you are doing in giving more power to the government, and less choice for the average person.

melodious

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rainbow family of love



agrees with your comment, polaris...

i keep thinking of this image of a great trojan horse....

hailhailkc

Commy wrote:

So I had a friends Obama 08 shirt on the other day, long night, anyway...this guy comes up to me and says,

"good luck with your new president"
to which I replied, "thanks, you too man, he's your president too."

and this fucking douchebag, basically screams,
"He's not my president, I spent 2 years in Nam fighting communists and now we have one in the whitehouse." Seriously bent out of shape in a department store.

So I calmed him down a bit, was like dude, relax....and he goes on to "explain" how Obama has decided to raise FICA by 40%, if you make more than $36,000 a year your fucked, and how businesses all over the country have already felt the affect of Obama's presidency and are going overseas.

I gave him plenty of numbers, described the great depression to him, mentioned I would like to have healthcare, mentioned how I would like to see an end to the occupation of Iraq...the guy had an excuse for everything. Apparently I can get healthcare for 13$ a month at my local grocery store- according to this guy (I am going to check that out). but his favorite word was communist and his scare tactic was how Obama was going to raise FICA by 40%.

Talk about wanting him to fail., He's not even our president yet and people are blaming him for shit he isn't even going to do, or blaming him for Bush policies.

Was Bush your president?

El_Kabong

Kenny Olav wrote:

Was his name Walter Sobchak?

OVER THE LINE!!!!!!!!

melodious

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

Pure Socialism doesn't work, you rely on the integrity and honesty of people for it to be successful....and this won't ever happen. As long as there are greedy people here on earth, they will take advantage of what ever system a government adopts. All you are doing in giving more power to the government, and less choice for the average person.

any system that is massive with population will not work because there is no opt to know people...

a system that will succeed will put people, species, and nature first-foremost...

indigenous tribes have known socialism/communalism and look what we do to them..we di-sect them and annihilate culture.

if we look at this in a sense, and history...all indigenous tribes were nations under god, Spirit, divine or just the plain ol' sun....

in Conversations with God and many new sorts of training, I have been reading and learning that giving support is key for success...supporting does not mean transforming, it means to find good...

if everyone would stand back and let your hearts lead you, you would become part of a great movement that can and will overcome some of our past mistakes.

peace.

angelica

scb wrote:

I like your name... and your views. Keep up the good work!

Commy has always been, and probably always will be one of my fave posters ever. My daughter used to read the board just to read his posts...and she even used to scope out his myspace page........

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angelica wrote:

Commy has always been, and probably always will be one of my fave posters ever. My daughter used to read the board just to read his posts...and she even used to scope out his myspace page........

Haha! Your daughter used to stalk Commy? That's super-cute. How old is she? (Just wondering how old is too old to stalk Commy? )