Randi Rhodes Suspended For Calling Hillary A "Big F*cking Whore"

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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    people should be allowed to say whatever they want
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Commy wrote:
    people should be allowed to say whatever they want

    I agree somewhat with that. I'm only arguing what the constitution covers under the first amendment in reality.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I agree somewhat with that. I'm only arguing what the constitution covers under the first amendment in reality.
    we can't have any limits on what we say. The second they decide what is acceptable is about the same time we lose our ability to question authority. This is a very important issue, and we need to defend the guy's right to say the holocaust never existed as much as we defend the Bush critics.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Commy wrote:
    we can't have any limits on what we say. The second they decide what is acceptable is about the same time we lose our ability to question authority. This is a very important issue, and we need to defend the guy's right to say the holocaust never existed as much as we defend the Bush critics.


    Yes, I agree. What are your views on private property/businesses and the right to free speech by patrons/employess? What do you think about Randi Rhodes in this situation? Do you think she, as an employee representing Air America, should be allowed to say whatever she wants to even when the business owners might not wish to have their company represented in such a way? What if you were running a radio station and you wanted your station to be respected and to hold high standards, then an employee went on the air saying things that made your station look badly and caused people to stop tuning in because this person was vulgar, loud and didn't express the type of standard they thought they could count on from your radio station? Would you keep this person on anyways, even if it ruined your business and you disagreed with what they were saying in the first place?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • mookie_in_eugene
    mookie_in_eugene Posts: 1,090
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    ...What if you were running a radio station and you wanted your station to be respected and to hold high standards, then an employee went on the air saying things that made your station look badly and caused people to stop tuning in because this person was vulgar, loud and didn't express the type of standard they thought they could count on from your radio station? Would you keep this person on anyways, even if it ruined your business and you disagreed with what they were saying in the first place?

    A couple points about what you said. First, the analogy of an employee saying something on air doesn't apply because RR didn't say what she said on the radio. Second, from a biz perspective it's already killing AirAmerica that she left them. Now that she's on NovaM radio, she is taking away the afternoon slots from air america. I loved air america when it first was on the air but it has slowly lost its way. I thought that Morning Sedition was great (better than what Stephanie Miller does today, but I do like Steph Miller). Then they fire Mike Maloy and now RR has left because they were trying to get her to sign a bad contract. I like Sam Seder (though he still needs some work), but they don't have him on enough except as a utility fill in guy. Tom Hartman is great (better that Al Franken without the co-host) and Rachel Madow is also enjoyable, but the station is dying a slow death. I think liberal radio is fine, but Air America isn't. At least they did help jump start a trend of liberal radio talk show stations that are able to combat the tremendous amount of conservative stations.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    mookie_in_eugene wrote:
    A couple points about what you said. First, the analogy of an employee saying something on air doesn't apply because RR didn't say what she said on the radio. Second, from a biz perspective it's already killing AirAmerica that she left them. Now that she's on NovaM radio, she is taking away the afternoon slots from air america. I loved air america when it first was on the air but it has slowly lost its way. I thought that Morning Sedition was great (better than what Stephanie Miller does today, but I do like Steph Miller). Then they fire Mike Maloy and now RR has left because they were trying to get her to sign a bad contract. I like Sam Seder (though he still needs some work), but they don't have him on enough except as a utility fill in guy. Tom Hartman is great (better that Al Franken without the co-host) and Rachel Madow is also enjoyable, but the station is dying a slow death. I think liberal radio is fine, but Air America isn't. At least they did help jump start a trend of liberal radio talk show stations that are able to combat the tremendous amount of conservative stations.

    The person who told me about this story told it like she was on air so I have been discussing this from that angle. It does make a difference if she's not at work, imo. However, it is worth discussing...which is more important? Her right to free speech outside the work place or the companies right to take action if they feel her public persona is affecting their company? Now I, personally, think she should be allowed to say whatever she pleases off air. But does the company have a right to suspend and fire someone when they disgree with what has been said and in this case in a very public way.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    The person who told me about this story told it like she was on air so I have been discussing this from that angle. It does make a difference if she's not at work, imo. However, it is worth discussing...which is more important? Her right to free speech outside the work place or the companies right to take action if they feel her public persona is affecting their company? Now I, personally, think she should be allowed to say whatever she pleases off air. But does the company have a right to suspend and fire someone when they disgree with what has been said and in this case in a very public way.

    yes, but it's a little like McDonalds firing employees for making Hamburgers. That's what they were hired to do. They just didn't like the way they were making them.

    Air America now looks like just another facsist corporation and not a place for opinion or free thought.

    BIG mistake.

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