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If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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disturbing to say the least....so sad how irresponsible we have become. the spirit of life in all living things is divine yet how often do we act as God's raping and pillaging this spirit of life!
-Big Fish
Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
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It's about cruelty to animals. It states what it's about and that discretion should be used when viewing before it actually starts.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
So I'm not going to watch, I'll just say that animals were not put on this earth for our amusement and we should treat them like coinhabitants of the planet and not like slaves or worse.
Yes, it was hard to watch but I made myself watch it. I think it really did change the way I will look at things forever. I mean, i knew what was going on, but this video was so thorough and didn't leave anything to imagination...which was incredibly hard to view but it needs to be out there. People need to realize the reality they are being sheltered from.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
~Ron Burgundy
Oh, I know that's not what you were doing.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
If it were up to me, war supporters would have to watch uncut footage, circus-goers would have to watch behind-the-scenes tapes before gaining admittance, Walmart shoppers would have to talk to workers in China who toil seven days a week for $1 per hour, meat-eaters would have to watch a pig slaughter ... but it's not up to me, so they can keep forking over their money without knowing what they're paying for.
I know that YOU know what I meant
There will be a breaking point.
We can't last forever.
This will be on my mind for quite a while.
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Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I've watched some of it. It demonstrates that we are not interested in peace. We are not interested in each other. We have a lot of fixing of ourselves if we truly hope to survive together on this tiny planet.
When we talk about politics, we must stop pretending we care about stuff at this point - other than collecting as much as we can for ourselves.
we need a fix ourselves forum. but likely not too many would visit it.
This video is a very graphic and profound example of humans being. Tough, gut-wrenching viewing.
Respect and love for all living things and our beautiful planet, has been something I have been talking about for decades.
Sadly, very few listen:(
As I have said many times before, Human Beings have a lot of work to do and a long way to go; before we truely display all that "superiority" so many humans love to boast about. Superiority? I think not.
About eight years ago, there was a Circus up in New York state, just 30 minutes or so over New Jersey's most north-western border. I went to see (but did not pay a single penny) how they treated the elephants.
Some scum-bag was poking the elephants with one of those voltage sticks and I cursed the fucker. He cursed me back and told me to "get lost, you're disturbing the elephants":rolleyes: Yeah, I 'm disturbing them.
Certainly not the mega-volts he was poking into the elephants bodies.
Later that night, they had all the elephants chained-up outside of the "Big Tent", in a large roped-off (chains) area, all standing side-by-side.
I first stood in front of them (about ten feet way) for a long time and watched them rocking side-to-side (left feet....to right feet), and as they were doing this all six elephants were in constant physical contact with each other. While rocking they would touch and rub the sides of their bodies against each other, and their trunks were always touching the elephant next to them.
I then sat down on the ground and just watched them. I was in awe of these animals and the way they interacted and touched each other.
They are incredibly majestic animals and their profound need to always be in physical contact with their friends, moved me very deeply.
I had always suspected since I was a teenager that elephants had a high intellect and full emotional capacity. But that night surely solidified my beliefs.
Beautiful animals. Sad situation.
And no, I would never stand or sit in front of wild elephants or even go any where near them.
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
Yes...
I just don't know what to say.... damn.
We are meat-eaters, but we are aware of the cruelty they go through.
We need protein for our brains... I've tried NOT eating meat and it's hard.
I don't know what to say.....
We're also overpopulating animals...but since we are at "top of the chain", unfortunately, we do have the ability to control them. :(
Or so, we think..... it'll be payback time at one point.
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
Waiting for the day all different species of animals unite to overthrow the human race?
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
I used to think the same as you about not eating meat. I tried twice before I finally went vegetarian. It was hard at first, but now I couldn't imagine ever eating meat again. It was videos just like this that made me realize that a meat-based diet just supports so much cruelty (not to mention enviromental devastation) and I did not want to support it at all. I've since gone vegan which was actually really easy. And protein is still easy to get on a vegetarain or vegan diet. There's tons of meat replacements packed w/ protein. Soy milk has alot. As for un-processed foods try nuts, legumes, beans, and many vegetables. There's plenty of websites with this info.
Peace
Congrats on your new diet, better health and clearer conscience. Once people learn about it they see how easy it is.
I hope to go veggie to vegan some time soon.
I love regular cheese and icecream so much....but I have some connections around here and someone is going to hook me up with the quality vegan versions.
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Great maybe you can help us out. What artificial nutrient sources will I need for my Vegan diet?
No offense taken. I don't think eating meat is unhealthy, just a personal decision not to do it anymore. And, no, becomming vegan doesn't mean you have to rely on artificial nutrient sources. Well, not if you do it the proper way anyway. I'm still learning and hence doing a lot of research on how to do this the healthy way.
Vegan/vegetarianism is incredibly healthy. The percentage of people overweight while vegetarian is something like 3%. It's much much higher for meat eaters. You get all the nutrients and protein you need with a balanced vegan diet. You do not need anything "artificial" it's just that fake-meat products now exist as many people grew up enjoying hamburgers, dairy-cheese, etc. Now they can have a veggie burger or soy or rice cheese as an alternative. Nothing about this is "artificial", it's just not meat based. Soy ice cream tastes amazing!! Try So Good butterscotch.
A vegetarian diet provides you with all the nutrients you need with much less fat and cholesterol. And at the same time you are helping to stop animal cruelty and the massive enviromental costs associated with the meat industry.
It's a win win!! Plus eating is just much more fun now.
An amazing vegan recipe book is "How it all Vegan".
I have the "Becoming Vegan" The complete guide to adopting a healthy plant based diet by Davis and Melina. They have a vegitarian version too. Great simple 280 page book. Lots of tables that break down each food so you can do the math and get everything you need.
My recipe book is "The complete Vegan Cookbook" by geiskopf and Toomay It has some good stuff in it.
The net has some Huge collections of good recipes too, you just have to find them.
I'll check "How it all Vegan" out. Is it the tops?
Minimally, and more realistically, (once we can afford it) we are going to move towards organic meats and free range meat sources and just try to cut back a bit in general. Not as a cop out, but with my super duper fast matabolism, it would probably be ill advised for me to cut meat out completely.
I'm actually downloading the movie and then will watch it and I'll comment more specifically on the documentary once its through. I don't ever agree with excessive violence or flagrant brutality, but the truth of the matter is that death is intrinsic to food production, even a vegetarian one. Wild animals don't typically have nice peaceful deaths either, but I do disagree with placing unnecessary pain/distress to animals.