New Message From Ron Paul

Abookamongstthemany
Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
Though I don't agree with many of Paul's stances, I can't help but admire the man and his supporters for standing up against the system, against the odds, against the media's bullshit and the cries of 'unattainable' and 'unrealistic'. They took a stand in the name of what they view as right and opted to try to do something about it instead of sitting back and complaining with the attitude that nothing can be changed. The people that were couragous enough to get behind any candidate who puts their principles above playing ball to get by in a fucked up system should be commended, imo. So Paul/Kucinich/Nader/Gravel supports stand tall! You guys are the ones who make real change possible in this country.


http://www.youtube.com/v/Rk_vVaZxTno
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    i'd be standing tall anyway. even when i slouch, i'm still at least 6 feet off the ground. :D


    (for those who don't know, i'm 6'8")
  • Kenny Olav wrote:
    i'd be standing tall anyway. even when i slouch, i'm still at least 6 feet off the ground. :D


    (for those who don't know, i'm 6'8")

    I'll use 'stand like Kenny' in the place of tall from here on out. :D

    You never have to wonder what's on top of your fridge with Kenny around. :p
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  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Though I don't agree with many of Paul's stances, I can't help but admire the man and his supporters for standing up against the system, against the odds, against the media's bullshit and the cries of 'unattainable' and 'unrealistic'. They took a stand in the name of what they view as right and opted to try to do something about it instead of sitting back and complaining with the attitude that nothing can be changed. The people that were couragous enough to get behind any candidate who puts their principles above playing ball to get by in a fucked up system should be commended, imo. So Paul/Kucinich/Nader/Gravel supports stand tall! You guys are the ones who make real change possible in this country.


    http://www.youtube.com/v/Rk_vVaZxTno

    Ron Paul was my man. I'll probably still write him in on the November ballot.
  • For Ron Paul it's not about facing the odds or ever having a snowball's chance in hell of winning it was just about getting his message publicity. His goals were 100% unrealistic and unnattainable and Ron knew that from the get go. In any case, I love that he did it. :)
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  • f@%kin Sh$T

    i voted Hillary anyway

    ;)

    so all you Obama voters can mark that on your Texas calendars

    oh yeah, that's right the Hill won Texas

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  • For Ron Paul it's not about facing the odds or ever having a snowball's chance in hell of winning it was just about getting his message publicity. His goals were 100% unrealistic and unnattainable and Ron knew that from the get go. In any case, I love that he did it. :)

    Really? In the youtube link I posted he talks about this grassroots movement igniting a revolution. That has everything to do with fighting the odds. Of course he and his supporters know that his isn't going to win...the point was to build a movement towards the changes that others have called unrealistic and unattainable because everything has to start somewhere. It was about showing the principles they believe in are worth standing up for.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    gg
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  • wow.
    this message made me nearly well up.
    not because i'm sad,
    but because Ron Paul, the man, and more importantly, the message he brings, is so overwhelmingly honest and important to Americas future.

    I know many here disagree, but I truly feel that if there is any hope left for America, it is in the message that Ron Paul brings and the massive actions of the many "followers" (who i would term "leaders") who help to bring the real change about.

    The lines that got me the most were the bits around the march and how he could not sponsor it directly for legal reasons but that "i don't mind playing a key role in the revolution, but it HAS to be MORE than a 'Ron Paul' Revolution" ... that is the core truth of this revolution. it HAS to be about more than just Ron Paul, and i think the REAL revolutionaries know that quite well (have for some time).

    And i LOVE LOVE LOVE that he is bringing legal structures in to place himself to further the revolution. PERFECT! BEAUTIFUL! AMAZING! BRAVO!

    :D:D:D
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    i'd be standing tall anyway. even when i slouch, i'm still at least 6 feet off the ground. :D


    (for those who don't know, i'm 6'8")

    Here's to hoping that Kenny never has seats directly in front of me at a PJ show :)
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  • Here's to hoping that Kenny never has seats directly in front of me at a PJ show :)

    You could always ask if he would let you sit on his shoulders.

    :D
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    So Paul supports stand tall! You guys are the ones who make real change possible in this country.

    so... you're saying a bigot, anti choice, social darwinistic (is that a word?) politician is helping make real change possible? hmmmm....


    militias, hate groups, etc. rail against the "system" as well... does that mean i should support them simply becuase they are challenging the system or calling for change
  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    my2hands wrote:
    so... you're saying a bigot, anti choice, social darwinistic (is that a word?) politician is helping make real change possible? hmmmm....

    How ignorant. Other than the news letter incident, what makes you think any of that is true?

    If the newsletters are enough for you, fine. That's your opinion.

    Other than that, he has never said or done anything to support your positiion. Nothing.
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  • my2hands wrote:
    so... you're saying a bigot, anti choice, social darwinistic (is that a word?) politician is helping make real change possible? hmmmm....


    militias, hate groups, etc. rail against the "system" as well... does that mean i should support them simply becuase they are challenging the system or calling for change

    Huh?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    I sure would like to see a campaign that had Pauls economics and someone elses liberal social values.
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  • Pacomc79 wrote:
    I sure would like to see a campaign that had Pauls economics and someone elses liberal social values.

    There are so-called "Ron Paul Democrats" if that is what you are after.

    I actualy find it refreshing that he is unashamed to speak candidly about the religious institution of marriage on the one hand, and saying that it should not be a federal issue. Hell, it should be a religous issue period, not a government issue. If you are gay and you have a problem with that, petition your church for marriage rights, or petition your government for equal economic rights under a "civil union", but stop trying to have the state moderate religion.

    And as far as the ProChoice (or NoChoice, if you take the childs POV), i dunno man. Its a dicey slope. No one wants to see girls hurt themselves getting "illegal" abortions, but then again, should we really be condoning "murder" just to keep the accomplice from hurting themselves in the process?

    And i really don't want to go in to another abortion debate in earnest. I'm just saying.

    I hear you POV, and i also respect Ron Paul for being pretty damn candid about his. He comes from an "Old School" principled "moral" stance. He isn't pushy or preachy about it, he just states it as his belief. And all of it is hinged around constitutional foundings, not just his desire to impose will on people. In fact he is trying to give the will BACK to the people, and not the federal government.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    There are so-called "Ron Paul Democrats" if that is what you are after.

    I actualy find it refreshing that he is unashamed to speak candidly about the religious institution of marriage on the one hand, and saying that it should not be a federal issue. Hell, it should be a religous issue period, not a government issue. If you are gay and you have a problem with that, petition your church for marriage rights, or petition your government for equal economic rights under a "civil union", but stop trying to have the state moderate religion.

    And as far as the ProChoice (or NoChoice, if you take the childs POV), i dunno man. Its a dicey slope. No one wants to see girls hurt themselves getting "illegal" abortions, but then again, should we really be condoning "murder" just to keep the accomplice from hurting themselves in the process?

    And i really don't want to go in to another abortion debate in earnest. I'm just saying.

    I hear you POV, and i also respect Ron Paul for being pretty damn candid about his. He comes from an "Old School" principled "moral" stance. He isn't pushy or preachy about it, he just states it as his belief. And all of it is hinged around constitutional foundings, not just his desire to impose will on people. In fact he is trying to give the will BACK to the people, and not the federal government.

    It's just nice to have some people with principal putting themselves out there.

    It's not bought, it's not payola, it's not stick my finger in the wind and see what people think and this is what I believe.

    I don't agree with Ron Paul or Ralph Nader what have you on everything.... but geez it's refreshing they actually say what they believe and mean it. The word Genuine is basically devoid of value in most of US Politics anyway. This is the way it's supposed to be. Running on fucking principal. Not the desire to get power... the actual genuine desire to serve the freaking public. If you look at Nader... he's got a clear track record of doing what he believed would help the public. Ron Paul more of the same.

    I'd like to have a reasonable principaled president that listens to all parties and tries to make the best informed decision for the country personal political ramifications be damned.

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    unrealistic and unattainable is only limited to our own minds and hearts.

    The desire to push forward always makes anything realistic and attainable.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    It's just nice to have some people with principal putting themselves out there.

    It's not bought, it's not payola, it's not stick my finger in the wind and see what people think and this is what I believe.

    I don't agree with Ron Paul or Ralph Nader what have you on everything.... but geez it's refreshing they actually say what they believe and mean it. The word Genuine is basically devoid of value in most of US Politics anyway. This is the way it's supposed to be. Running on fucking principal. Not the desire to get power... the actual genuine desire to serve the freaking public. If you look at Nader... he's got a clear track record of doing what he believed would help the public. Ron Paul more of the same.

    I'd like to have a reasonable principaled president that listens to all parties and tries to make the best informed decision for the country personal political ramifications be damned.

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    genuine
    One entry found.

    genuine

    Main Entry: gen·u·ine

    Etymology: Latin genuinus innate, genuine; akin to Latin gignere to beget — more at kin
    Date: circa 1639
    1 a: actually having the reputed or apparent qualities or character <genuine vintage wines> b: actually produced by or proceeding from the alleged source or author <the signature is genuine> c: sincerely and honestly felt or experienced <a deep and genuine love> d: actual, true <a genuine improvement>
    2: free from hypocrisy or pretense : sincere


    finally, someone who gets it!!! refreshing to see someone else not get so caught up in the pep rallies
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong wrote:
    finally, someone who gets it!!! refreshing to see someone else not get so caught up in the pep rallies

    PEP RALLIES ARE FUN!

    WOOoOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooOOOOoooooo!

    We're going to the White House!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WoOOOooOOOOoooooooOOOOOOooooooooooOooo!
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?