9/11 info and sources

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  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    Nevermind wrote:
    And how credible is that? No one else mentions it. Even Bush said we havent found any.

    Several other media outlets have picked this story up as well as several US Senators. You obviously don't watch the news. You also seem incapable of using google or yahoo or any other search engine for that matter. You could easily verify this story if you wanted to.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    It could just be a story made up. Is there visual proof? And are the insults necessary?
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    Nevermind wrote:
    And are the insults necessary?

    They aren't insults so much as they are observations.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    69charger wrote:
    They aren't insults so much as they are observations.
    Now your just being a smartass.
  • rightonduderightondude Posts: 745
    They found some outdated biological warhead shells or mini missles about a month ago (that the US manufactured and sold to them in the first place), however they were really old, useless, and non functional.

    I think by WMD's we can agree that we are talking about long range nuclear weapons that could be launched (and arrive) on US soil and elsewhere at great distances. Any of those popping up?
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    They found some outdated biological warhead shells or mini missles about a month ago (that the US manufactured and sold to them in the first place), however they were really old, useless, and non functional.

    From the link I provided earlier...


    The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, Chu added.

    While that's reassuring, the agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said. "We're talking chemical agents here that could be packaged in a different format and have a great effect," he said, referencing the sarin-gas attack on a Japanese subway in the mid-1990s.

    This is true even considering any degradation of the chemical agents that may have occurred, Chu said. It's not known exactly how sarin breaks down, but no matter how degraded the agent is, it's still toxic.

    "Regardless of (how much material in the weapon is actually chemical agent), any remaining agent is toxic," he said. "Anything above zero (percent agent) would prove to be toxic, and if you were exposed to it long enough, lethal."



    Now, are we really gonna sit and split hairs here?
  • rightonduderightondude Posts: 745
    69charger wrote:
    From the link I provided earlier...


    The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, Chu added.

    While that's reassuring, the agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said. "We're talking chemical agents here that could be packaged in a different format and have a great effect," he said, referencing the sarin-gas attack on a Japanese subway in the mid-1990s.

    This is true even considering any degradation of the chemical agents that may have occurred, Chu said. It's not known exactly how sarin breaks down, but no matter how degraded the agent is, it's still toxic.

    "Regardless of (how much material in the weapon is actually chemical agent), any remaining agent is toxic," he said. "Anything above zero (percent agent) would prove to be toxic, and if you were exposed to it long enough, lethal."



    Now, are we really gonna sit and split hairs here?


    Yeah... looks like the article I read. exposed to it long enough I suppose, maybe do a few lines of em like coke or somehitng it'll blow your doors off :D. I not sure how much mass of destruction are left in those though. A current threat?

    Wasn't it set out originally like they were making recent ones and planning to use them so we had to go in and stop them? That and the terrorist thing as a piggyback reason, like Iraq was harboring them as well
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    69charger wrote:
    From the link I provided earlier...


    The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, Chu added.

    While that's reassuring, the agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said. "We're talking chemical agents here that could be packaged in a different format and have a great effect," he said, referencing the sarin-gas attack on a Japanese subway in the mid-1990s.

    This is true even considering any degradation of the chemical agents that may have occurred, Chu said. It's not known exactly how sarin breaks down, but no matter how degraded the agent is, it's still toxic.

    "Regardless of (how much material in the weapon is actually chemical agent), any remaining agent is toxic," he said. "Anything above zero (percent agent) would prove to be toxic, and if you were exposed to it long enough, lethal."



    Now, are we really gonna sit and split hairs here?
    Is cooking meth a WMD? No one has still answered my questions.
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    Nevermind wrote:
    No one has still answered my questions.

    Did I stutter? I'm not arguing with you nuts regarding conspiracy theories.

    Since you still haven't learned how to use the search function, here's a thread from almost a year ago.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=134736
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    69charger wrote:
    Did I stutter? I'm not arguing with you nuts regarding conspiracy theories.

    Since you still haven't learned how to use the search function, here's a thread from almost a year ago.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=134736
    Or is it because you cant explain that the wtc was the first 3 steel buildings to collapse due to fire? Maybe you should go on Roxdogs radio show and there wouldnt be all these threads.
  • Your 9/11 conspiracies remind me of Holocaust denial. Or is that where you're going next?
  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    Back and to the left.... back and to the left.... back and to the left...
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    JHudgens75 wrote:
    Your 9/11 conspiracies remind me of Holocaust denial. Or is that where you're going next?
    Were not racist here. Youd be suprised if you did some research. Dont knock what what you dont know or understand. And who the fuck are you. 5 posts and youll probly never get over 25.
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    You may not like some of the sources...prisonplanet, etc...but there's way more than just them here. Take the time to check them out, it won't hurt ya.

    Scholars for 9/11 Truth
    http://www.st911.org/


    All 115 comission report omissions and distortions with page footnotes
    http://www.serendipity.li/wot/571-page-lie.htm


    flight 93 news report that day
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&search=united%2093


    german doc on 93
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3505712702687232327


    Rumsfeld saying 93 was shot down
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0


    93 emergency landing at cleveland airport?
    http://web.archive.org/web/20021109040132/http:/wcpo.com/specials/2001/americaattacked/news_local/story14.html


    93 cell phone calls?
    http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/phonecalls.html

    Bush saying he saw first plane hit tower that morning
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6kouXg40Q


    a fake osama tape?
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html


    Central colums ommitted from comission report?
    http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/


    NORAD standing DOWN??
    http://standdown.net/
    http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/norad/


    WTC7
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html

    Hijackers still alive?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm


    Catherder's ATS thread debunked
    http://abovetopsecret.narod.ru/Above_Top_Secret_article.htm


    debunking Popular Mechanics
    http://911review.com/pm/markup/index.html
    http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/
    http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/090305alexresponds.htm
    http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/070305chertoffscousin.htm


    Morgan Reynolds - Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor (Bush II)
    http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050613-102755-6408r.htm
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/160605governmentcomplicit.htm


    Paul Craig Roberts - Former Assistant of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration author of "Reaganonics"
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/080206towerscollapse.htm


    Dr. Robert M. Bowman (Lt. Col. Ret.) - Former Head of Advanced Space Programs for the Department of Defense Author of "Star Wars Defense" during Reagan Administration
    http://www.rmbowman.com/ssn/Secrecy.htm
    http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A4282


    Ray McGovern - Former CIA Analyst during the Reagan and Bush I Administrations
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/191005McGovern.htm


    Stanley Hilton - Bob Dole's Former Chief of Staff
    http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=101&contentid=1536


    Karl Schwarz - Former Republican Strategist Insider
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/one-time_gop_insider.html


    Donn de Grand-Pre - U.S. Army Col. (Ret.)
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html


    Andreas Von Buelow - Former German Defense Minister
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html

    Physics Professor Steven Jones - Brigham Young University
    http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0, 1249, 635160132, 00.html
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/121105twintowers.htm


    Theology Professor David Ray Griffin - Clarmont Theology University
    http://www.WantToKnow.info/050828latimes911conspiracy


    William Rodriguez - Hero & Maintenance Worker at the Twin Towers
    http://www.arcticbeacon.com/20-Jun-2005.html


    Anatoli Kornukov - Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force
    http://www.tenc.net/news/airf.htm


    Michael Meacher - Former UK Minister of Environment
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0, 3604, 1036571, 00.html


    David Shayler - Former MI5 British Secret Agent
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm

    Russ Wittenberg -Former Air Force and Commercial Airline Pilot
    http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623




    Louis Freeh - Former FBI Director (under Bush II)
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559




    U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
    http://www.ajc.com/hp/content/auto/epaper/editions/saturday/news_241efd8d9666d13800b4.html




    U.S. Senator Mark Dayton (D-Minn.)
    http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=369


    U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, (R-TX) (MD)
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html


    U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/335527.shtml


    U.S. Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA)
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050917&articleId=965


    Command Sergeant Major Eric Haney - Founder of the Military's Elite Covert Counter-Terrorist Unit, Delta force
    http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/delta_force_founder_no_real_threat_to_us.htm


    Stan Goff - U.S. Special Forces Master Sergeant (Ret.)
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_media.htm


    Catherine Austin Fitts - Former Ass. Secretary of Housing (Bush II)
    http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041101130426916


    Sibel Edmonds - Former FBI Translator "Whistleblower"
    http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds.htm


    Coleen Rowley - Former Special FBI Agent
    http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html


    Robert Wright - Former Special FBI Agent
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/another_fbi_agent_blows_the_whistle.htm


    Paul O'Neill - Former Treasury Secretary (Bush II)
    http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004/01/more-on-paul-oneill.html


    Joseph Wilson - Former U.S. Diplomat
    http://www.legitgov.org/clg_interview_joseph_wilson_060705.html


    Karen Kwiatkowski - Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Pentagon
    http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=karen_kwiatkowski


    Respected Leaders and Families 9/11 Truth Statements
    http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633


    Unanswered Questions from 9/11 Victim's Families
    http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html


    Experts Call for Release of 9/11 Evidence
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20060301/bs_prweb/prweb352979_1


    Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20060130/bs_prweb/prweb339303


    Official 9/11 Story Disputed by Experts and Witnesses
    http://www.lasvegastribune.com/20050729/headline3.html


    National Security Experts Speak Out: 9/11 Commission Falls Short
    http://www.BreakForNews.com/Vets-on-911-Commission.htm


    "The real problem with the official line on 9/11 is that it relies on wrong-headed science that starts with "a conclusion" and seeks out evidence that supports that theory to the exclusion of all other evidence." ~ Prof. Steven E. Jones


    9/11: The Myth and the Reality
    http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060405112622982


    operation northwoods
    http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

    THANK YOU for this information. I've processed it and let me tell you, it has REALLY opened up my eyes.

    I have to say, thank *insert your prefered diety here* for Eddie Vedder and you link posters on their web site. Without your help and holding hand, I'd be a loser cruising around in a micro-bus around the country. Thanks to information like this, I've upgraded to a nice and spacious room in an upscale co-op. Best part is, it's not hard to skirt your 8 hour work/week duty b/c enforcement's not a big concern ;)

    But yeah, I'm always up for questioning our government and the devious activity they're up to? I was wondering if you had anything about the rape and/or oil for food scandals of the UN? Surely you are interested in spreading information, and have an abudence of links? And let me tell you, I CAN'T GET ENOUGH LINKS!!!!
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    A recent study showed that 90% of FOX viewers actually believe that WMDs were found in Iraq. They also believe that Saddam was connected to 9/11.

    Some weapons were discovered in Iraq, they were given to Saddam in 1991 and were chemical weapons. Weapons experts have said the weapons have a shelf life of a few months and would no longer be usable.

    The U.N. weapons inspectors confirmed that all usable chemical weapons or WMDs otherwise were dismantled, before the invasion. Bush didn't listen. Iraq wasn't about weapons, or oil specifically. Iraq is a strategic point in future middle-east wars. As 69charger said to install a pro-american government. One that will roll-over whenever the US wants it to. I don't think there is any international obligation to be pro-american, as far as I'm concerned US citizens aren't obligated to be pro-bush or anti-iraq simply because Bush said there was a problem, contrary to the rest of the world.

    There is a video on google about Al-Jazeera created by the BBC. You can see on the video how Iraqi people didn't hate Saddam. "He did some really bad things, but it's different now." said one rep. Now, it's a lot different, there is violence all over the place. "Why does al-Jazeera show pictures of dead Iraqis and no pictures of Iraqi soldiers abducting civilians?" asked a US Military personnel "Those pictures don't exist [because it didn't happen]" replied al-Jazeera.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Ahnimus wrote:
    A recent study showed that 90% of FOX viewers actually believe that WMDs were found in Iraq.

    So bascially, you are saying that 90% of FOX viewers were correct.

    Your qualifications are taken into account (so no need to bore anyone with them again), but they ARE correct.

    So to sum up your post, 90% of FOX viewers know the facts about WMD's in Iraq.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    So bascially, you are saying that 90% of FOX viewers were correct.

    Your qualifications are taken into account (so no need to bore anyone with them again), but they ARE correct.

    So to sum up your post, 90% of FOX viewers know the facts about WMD's in Iraq.

    That's not what I said. A 15 year old dud weapon is hardly going to cause MASS DESTRUCTION. What I'm saying is they heard what they wanted to and FOX spun the story in that direction.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • You may not like some of the sources...prisonplanet, etc...but there's way more than just them here. Take the time to check them out, it won't hurt ya.

    These sites hurt only those who refuse to research them.
    Scholars for 9/11 Truth
    http://www.st911.org/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholars_for_9_11_Truth

    "Detractors point to the following 'breakdown' of the scientific disciplines the various members have:

    Philosophy, 9 members.
    7 with no academic discipline
    English/literature 5 members.
    Psychology 5 members.
    Physics 5 members.
    Theology 4 members.
    Humanities 3 members.
    Engineers 2 members.

    They also point to the fact there are 0 Structural Engineers, and 0 Middle Eastern or Arabic language experts, and the few Engineers have little relevant work with the appropriate discipline, for example Judy Wood, who has focused her work on the stresses of dentistry. When combined, this member list is shown by detractors to be indicative of a group of people who are not "experts" as the site has claimed, on the matters and disciplines relevant to the September 11 attacks."

    No debris = no plane crash??? Is that what this is supposed to prove? Then this one must have been faked as well:

    American Eagle Flight 4184
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Eagle_4184_crashsite.jpg

    Ok. Is this strange? Federal officials searched the plane and found no bomb.

    I can't believe you guys still post this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waleed_al-Shehri

    "Muhammad Ali Al-Shihri, the hijacker al-Shehri brothers' true father, was identified prior to September 17, 2001, and told Arab News that he hadn't heard from his sons in ten months prior to September 2001.[1] An ABC News story in March 2002 repeated this, and during a report entitled "A Saudi Apology" for Dateline NBC on Aug 25 2002, NBC's reporter John Hockenberry traveled to 'Asir, where he interviewed the third brother, Salah, who agreed that his two brothers were dead and claimed they had been "brainwashed".

    Furthermore another article explains that the pilot who lives in Casablanca was named Walid al-Shri (not Waleed M. al-Shehri) and that much of the BBC information regarding "alive" hijackers was incorrect according to the same sources used by BBC"

    I wish you'd at least post the article they were debunking.

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

    This one....seriously???


    I'll just leave the rest alone.


    I notice you also didn't even post the Comission report, though you post lots of sites that "debunk" it. How can your readers hope to understand a debunking of something they've never read? Anyway, that's available here:

    http://www.9-11commission.gov/


    By all means everyone should read the links you provided. They paint a very complete picture of your theories.
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    A recent study showed that 90% of FOX viewers actually believe that WMDs were found in Iraq. They also believe that Saddam was connected to 9/11.

    That's probably true. Wouldn't you also agree that it's quite likely that 90% of prisonplanet readers probably think the 9/11 hijackers are still alive and that the government is behind the attacks?
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    That's probably true. Wouldn't you also agree that it's quite likely that 90% of prisonplanet readers probably think the 9/11 hijackers are still alive and that the government is behind the attacks?

    I believed that before I ever found prisonplanet.tv

    I like Alex Jones, but personally I don't agree with him on every case. Yes, I believe there was complacency in the attacks, possibly even assisted by preplanted explosives as Steven Jones of BYU has apparently proven. However, I have different views about the New World Order and what that means. I don't automatically assume all terrorist or violent organizations are part of the NWO, I think the Hezbollah and the Hamas act on what they believe is in the best interest of the Arab people. Alex believes they work for Bush and I just disagree. I agree that the UN is a false security, that it should be replaced, but not by the neo-con's terms, and I don't agree with Alex that we should not have a world government. We should, but we shouldn't have veto rights and we should all maintain independant governments.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Ahnimus wrote:
    "we" should not have a world government. We should, but we shouldn't have veto rights and we should all maintain independant governments.

    I disagree with you on a lot, but I admire your directness and ability to express your opinion (unlike the "I posted links to numerous fringe web sites and it's YOUR job to refute every one of them" contingent) so THAT can be debated. It's actually refreshing.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • I disagree with you on a lot, but I admire your directness and ability to express your opinion (unlike the "I posted links to numerous fringe web sites and it's YOUR job to refute every one of them" contingent) so THAT can be debated. It's actually refreshing.


    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3509058&postcount=4
    I gave my opinion and openly debate here all the time, so drop your pathetic attempt to 'call someone out' without directly doing it. We debated the other night (or at least tried to around all the name calling and insults you needed to throw around) and you asked for links and sources, I give you sources and you still complain....what a fucking surprise.:rolleyes: If you want to debate aspects of these links then feel free to do so...but don't try to act as if I don't hold my own here.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    I believed that before I ever found prisonplanet.tv

    Cool.
    I like Alex Jones, but personally I don't agree with him on every case. Yes, I believe there was complacency in the attacks, possibly even assisted by preplanted explosives as Steven Jones of BYU has apparently proven.

    Apparently proven? He has not apparently proven anything. He has offered a hypothesis -- a hypothesis that is not even accepted by his own colleagues at his own university, particularly those from the college of structural engineering. The Professor Emeritus of BYU's Civil Engineering school said the following:

    "I find Professor Jones' thesis that planted explosives (rather than fire from the planes) caused the collapse of the Towers, very unreliable. Before one (especially students) supports such a conspiracy theory, they should investigate all details of the theory. To me a practicing structural engineer of 57 continuous years (1941-1998), Professor Jones' presentations are very disturbing."

    Furthermore, Jones has also offered a theory (with selected evidence to prove it) that Jesus Christ visited Native Americans following his resurrection. You may read that here:

    http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/jones/rel491/handstext%20and%20figures.htm

    I believe Ralph Nadar, someone who I don't often agree with, said it best in a program I recently saw on television. When asked by a student if he thought the government should admit that 9/11 was an 'inside job', Nader responded by saying (and I paraphrase):

    "No, because there is a difference between plausibility and fact."
    However, I have different views about the New World Order and what that means. I don't automatically assume all terrorist or violent organizations are part of the NWO, I think the Hezbollah and the Hamas act on what they believe is in the best interest of the Arab people. Alex believes they work for Bush and I just disagree. I agree that the UN is a false security, that it should be replaced, but not by the neo-con's terms, and I don't agree with Alex that we should not have a world government. We should, but we shouldn't have veto rights and we should all maintain independant governments.

    You may believe what you wish. I agree that the UN should be replaced, but not on the neo-cons' terms. It should be replaced with a large conference room and a handful of telephones. I agree that Hezbollah and Hamas act on what they believe is in the best interest of the Arab people....the Arab people who agree with them, that is. I agree that we should not have a world government.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    Were not racist here

    How is what I said related to racism?
    Nevermind wrote:
    Youd be suprised if you did some research. Dont knock what what you dont know or understand.

    I actually have done some research. That's why I can say I don't agree with it.
    Nevermind wrote:
    And who the fuck are you. 5 posts and youll probly never get over 25.

    I know who I am. I have a right to post here as much as anyone else and not get flamed for it. Or did I miss something and you're actually the owner of this forum, entrusted with ensuring only certain people with 5 million posts to their names get to post here? Is there some initiation rite that I'm missing? Yeah, 5 posts. So what? You were never at 5 posts in your exciting career?

    Way to go. You countered my opinion by attacking my character and resorting to expletives. Very intelligent.
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300

    Trust me, I NEVER ask for links, I've asked for opinions.


    and as far as "insults" go, there's a fine line between name-calling and a sarcastic jab...

    All I'm asking for is your world view. The poster I was responding to willingly did so, which I respect. I just find it odd that it's like pulling teeth to get so many others to do so.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    And dont forget this
    http://www.nysun.com/article/26514
    I bet he is in on it with the Bush administration too eh?
    Oh and did i mention.... THE CIA KILLED KENNEDY WITH THE HELP OF CASTRO AND THE USSR!
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
  • Trust me, I NEVER ask for links, I've asked for opinions.


    and as far as "insults" go, there's a fine line between name-calling and a sarcastic jab...

    All I'm asking for is your world view. The poster I was responding to willingly did so, which I respect. I just find it odd that it's like pulling teeth to get so many others to do so.


    You asked for sources.

    You did a fine job of insulting and calling names. If it were pure wit then I would have no problem.

    I make my view very clear, no pulling teeth needed.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    You asked for sources.

    You did a fine job of insulting and calling names. If it were pure wit then I would have no problem.

    I make my view very clear, no pulling teeth needed.

    You make the views of those who are able to be published on fringe web sites clear, still not sure of yours. Not an insult, just seems to be the case.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • You make the views of those who are able to be published on fringe web sites clear, still not sure of yours. Not an insult, just seems to be the case.

    I post my opinion almost everyday here. I also read and share info. If you're not sure of my views you haven't been reading.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    Im gonna have to agree...if all you do is post links that means all your doing is subsituting "reality" for another persons "reality" try thinking for yourself... I bet we can find contridictions between those sights...which one is your exact belief? Do you see what people are getting at? I can go create my own website too and call it "the truth"
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
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