The U.S. vs. John Lennon
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I watched this film over the weekend and loved it! Quite inspiring. 
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War is Over...if you want it.
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War is Over...if you want it.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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Actually, war is never over. It's human nature. It's only the stupid that resort to actually being stupid about it.
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actually moonbeam (*you know that's not a personal insult
war is over when they want it.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I ain't buying that for one second.
"Poor human nature, what horrible crimes have been committed in thy name! ~ Emma Goldman"
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Are they fighting it? They are heavily outnumbered and I believe.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I mean the modern social strata allows for disagreement, that is a healthy thing for society. That one segment of ours in America resorts to actually dropping real live bombs and sending troops 10,000 miles away to fight some idiotic idea of war there does not a war make.
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What's funny about movies like this is the focus on Nixon (who was even more liberal than Bush). the lack of emphasis on JFK and LBJ....it's a complete distortion of reality...as usual, I'll be tuning this out.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
So, I guess what I'm saying is, is that Iraq was never a real war.
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Or, that is to say, the vernacular of war wears thin when it comes to subjecting a population to one's will.
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I'm speaking of war in the terms of being hostile and using aggression and murder to defeat and/or destabilize another side. I see nothing 'human' in killing....that slips in to monsterous and animalistic to me. We humans have the compacity to love, learn, communicate and use understanding to solve our problems.
Main Entry: 1war
Pronunciation: 'wor
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English werre, from Anglo-French werre, guerre, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse
1 a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : STATE OF WAR b : the art or science of warfare c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war
2 a : a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b : a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end <a class war> <a war against disease>
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Do you see what I'm saying PurpleHawk? Trying to get an original idea across?
Not that its even that original. I get the idea, somewhat, from Leonoard Cohen's "Come back to the War" song. I'm not even sure if that's the title.
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I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with you.
Iraq is not a real war, it is an occupation. And how Bush or Cheney or anyone else can say that we have to stay until we "win" is beyond me.
Nixon was president during the time Lennon was being deported.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
okay. I'll agree with ya.
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actually, there are parts dealing w/ lbj in it....but, as was already stated who was the president trying to deport john lennon (which is what the doc is about)? it wasn't jfk, it wasn't lbj......so you an see why nixon is so prominent? where is the distortion of reality?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I mean, I'll agree with that definition of War. Seems appropriate.
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What did it inspire you to do?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
To be much more optimistic and hopeful regarding the world, it's affairs and the people living in it. John was really a light for us all. His heart was full of love for humanity.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Absolutely.
i psoted something about this on the song break thread. excellent documentary on lennon, the war, and the US government. pretty much a must see.
war is over... if you want it
my government is a fucking joke.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Imagine there's no liberals
It's easy if you try
No Feminazi's
None of Billy's lies
No environmental wackos
Lying to our kids
You, you may not like Bill Clinton
Well, you're not the only one
Imagine the truth about the 80's
Even if you can
High schools without condoms
And no brand new health plan
Imagine all the people
Paying their own way
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But, I'm not the only one
We should have listened to Rush Limbaugh
Then maybe George Bush might have won Bush I I think
Imagine Hillary baking cookies
I know it's very hard
No lesbians playing soldier
Or dragging tracks in the yard
What if Ronald Reagan
Could have had four terms
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll read "See I Told You So"
Then the world will live as one
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
yeah, you obviously have a handle on the truth.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I just got my copy in the mail Saturday! I'm glad you liked it.
I think there are people like him still but they are subjected to much more cynicism and ridicule by those who seek to discredit this kind of ideology than John had back then. He had some of it, as well...but these days people prefer to insult one another and make harsh judgements rather than exchange opinions civilly.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde