If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

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edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    If that actually ends up holding up, that's a pretty huge bump for McCain.

    We'll see what happens.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Obama will be the next president.. these polls are just polls.

    Unless Hillary keeps holding on, it will just anger voters and win McCain more support. Hillary supporters are just stubborn. Those numbers are just voices of protest and not will not actually happen.
  • Obama will be the next president.. these polls are just polls.

    Unless you agree with them, then they're post worthy. Or at least that's how it usually goes around here.

    I just thought it was interesting.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Unless you agree with them, then they're post worthy. Or at least that's how it usually goes around here.

    I just thought it was interesting.
    I think those numbers reflect competition stubborness rather than what people will actually do.

    Like when you get angry and say things you don't mean.. Hillary supporters are just more bitter.

    Hillary and Obama are almost identical.. They'd be morons to switch to McCain over Obama if they support Hillary's views.. which they may be already.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    no surprise there. say goodnight to the democratic party.
  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    That poll is just the result of the intense friction between the supporters of the candidates now.

    Once a nominee is decided, the loser will endorse the winner and the rift will heal. People will get a chance to think about what they're doing. This means nothing right now.
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • a month ago everyone was saying the huckabee conservatives would never vote for McCain, yet now they are all on board. its the same thing here. people have short memories.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    don't you people know that the New World Order has this whole thing rigged? don't you know they will create a series of events and a list of talking points that will be propagated upon by the elite NWO media, which will lead the people to vote the way the NWO wants them to, and if they have to tweak the results a little bit, they will?!?!?!?!?!?! ugh... i mean, wake up, sheeple! c'mon! sheeese.


    :D;)


    i mean, it's fun to think about.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    MrSmith wrote:
    a month ago everyone was saying the huckabee conservatives would never vote for McCain, yet now they are all on board. its the same thing here. people have short memories.

    I'm going to disagree here. while the comparrison might be similar, the actuality of it is much different. the amount of huckabee supports was nothing compared to the supporters of hilary/obama.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    MrSmith wrote:
    a month ago everyone was saying the huckabee conservatives would never vote for McCain, yet now they are all on board. its the same thing here. people have short memories.


    I tend to agree.... right now Hilary supporters will say they won't vote for Obama, and Obama voters won't vote for Hilary, but in the end, when it comes down to actually voting, I can't see that many crossovers into republican votes.

    There may be a significant number that stay home or vote for a third party, but both dem candidates have railed against the republican party for the last year, I just can't see their supports then just going to McCain out of spite.

    Any poll at this point is a joke. Once the Dems get their nominee straightened out, and a couple of weeks go by to cool off (and have the loser come out in support of the winner), then poll numbers might make sense.
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  • jbalicki10jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    What about Republicans voting for Hillary to cause chaos in the democratic party? That should be about 2-3 percent right?? Wasn't Limbaugh telling conservatives to do this?
  • SunorizonSunorizon Posts: 30
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    don't you people know that the New World Order has this whole thing rigged? don't you know they will create a series of events and a list of talking points that will be propagated upon by the elite NWO media, which will lead the people to vote the way the NWO wants them to, and if they have to tweak the results a little bit, they will?!?!?!?!?!?! ugh... i mean, wake up, sheeple! c'mon! sheeese.


    :D;)


    i mean, it's fun to think about.

    yeah! VOTE RON PAUL!

    i've spoke to a lot of american and it make me surprise nobody knows Ron Paul, that's the man!
    Government dont want him!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d_e9lrcZ8

    come on american peoples! its time to wake up!
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    These 28% will say this now because they're bitter. However, a day in politics is a lifetime. Once Hillary bows out, she will need to campaign hard to get her voters to support the candidate. I think after she drops out that she will do this. The Dems have been too good to the Clintons to allow them to drop out and not work to get the party candidate the win.
  • Its WAY too early to tell right now. I think we will lose some working class white people, but certainly not 28% of Clinton's support.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    here's an idea... why not stop voting for

    1. parties that make VERY vague promises that they will never fulfill
    2. parties that take money from the military industrial complex
    3. parties that cant even decide on a candidate and are divided.
    4. parties that have had chances to do good time and time again but fail.



    how long will the American voters accept ignorance and negligence from the people they put there voice behind.


    its a shame people...
  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    I don't think 28% is very significant. Isn't there some saying about surveys and polls which says that 25% will always be contrary. Even if the question is whether the sky is blue or not.

    The reality here is that there's been nothing that has happened here that's been surprising. The Dems knew the longer this dragged out, that McCain would benefit and that's exactly what has happened. Once the dust settles though, I doubt it will make much difference. There's still a long way to go until November and I really doubt McCain has the legs.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Its WAY too early to tell right now. I think we will lose some working class white people, but certainly not 28% of Clinton's support.

    might lose some old people too. but i don't think that matters, nor do i care, because the media is neglecting the hundreds of thousands of people who are newly registering democrat for these primaries. and now young people are involved in numbers they never were before. this younger generation is the most politically active and civic-minded generation ever. this is such an amazing time and historic election, not just because of race and gender issues, but because obama is changing the face of politics and society in the manner of who is voting now. not only are these young people active, they're voting; and they're voting for obama.

    suck it, olds.
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114

    More media hype about nothing of any value. It's a hypothetical that will never happen. There is no point in even having this poll at this time.
  • MichaelMcKevinMichaelMcKevin Posts: 1,161
    This shit gives me such a headache... how someone could be so ignorant to switch from a Dem to Rep. vote in THIS ELECTION because their horse lost in the "semis"
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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278

    doesn't that mean that the other 72% would prolly vote for obama?
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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    doesn't that mean that the other 72% would prolly vote for obama?

    yea, 72% of the 50% of americans who are democrats. ;)
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    yea, 72% of the 50% of americans who are democrats. ;)

    I think the 28% pretty much balances out the 1/2 of the far right who wouldn't vote for a "liberal senator" like John McCain
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    I think the 28% pretty much balances out the 1/2 of the far right who wouldn't vote for a "liberal senator" like John McCain

    they seem to be rallying around him now. its only the far right nutjobs like ann c.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    they seem to be rallying around him now. its only the far right nutjobs like ann c.

    So you are assuming that the Republicans can rally around someone totally against most of their beliefs, but Democrats can't rally around someone who shares virtually the same ideals as the other candidate?
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    So you are assuming that the Republicans can rally around someone totally against most of their beliefs, but Democrats can't rally around someone who shares virtually the same ideals as the other candidate?

    you may very well be right. there are some on the right that will not vote for "liberal mccain". but that number is no where near as close to what it's like on the left. IMO.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    reaching for straws i see...


    you guys need to take a rest on the whole anti-obama thing...

    support your candidate, but the whole bash obama at all costs thing is getting pretty tired
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117


    by the way...

    whats that say about hillary backers?


    you tried to make it out as a negative for obama... i see it as a negtive for hillary...
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    This shit gives me such a headache... how someone could be so ignorant to switch from a Dem to Rep. vote in THIS ELECTION because their horse lost in the "semis"

    I don't know ... because in THIS ELECTION the Republican candidate is practically a Democrat?

    While you guys are busy calling him "McBush" -- ha ha! -- McCain is probably the most palatable candidate, to independents and moderate Democrats, that the Repubs have ever won.

    If I backed Hillary, and Obama won, I would definitely give a look at McCain at least. I can see why people would do that.
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  • I don't know ... because in THIS ELECTION the Republican candidate is practically a Democrat?

    While you guys are busy calling him "McBush" -- ha ha! -- McCain is probably the most palatable candidate, to independents and moderate Democrats, that the Repubs have ever won.

    If I backed Hillary, and Obama won, I would definitely give a look at McCain at least. I can see why people would do that.

    But that gets in the way of them pushing their 'fear' vote agenda. We can't have that. They need to make it seem that every republican is GW and we must all shiver and tremble at the thought of them.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    I don't know ... because in THIS ELECTION the Republican candidate is practically a Democrat?

    While you guys are busy calling him "McBush" -- ha ha! -- McCain is probably the most palatable candidate, to independents and moderate Democrats, that the Repubs have ever won.

    If I backed Hillary, and Obama won, I would definitely give a look at McCain at least. I can see why people would do that.
    Most dems right now are paying most attention to foreign policy. While McCain MAY be ok in some other areas (I personally don't think so), his foreign policy is pretty fucking terrible, especially compared to Obama.
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