Ron Paul has voted NO against the Patriot Act.
Ron Paul has voted NO for authorizing the War in Iraq
Ron Paul voted NO to authorize additional spending for the war.
Ron Paul voted YES on the non binding resolution disavowing the War in Iraq
Ron Paul voted NO to authorize drilling in ANWAR
Ron Paul has voted against NAFTA.
Ron Paul does only want to do away with Bush tax cuts, he wants to completely scrap the IRS and our current tax system.
Ron Paul voted NO on the expansion of the AMBER alert system hich included the creation of a federal agency to handle it. Ron Paul is not against the AMBER alert system but is smart enough to see that there is no need for more levels of government bueracracy to implement it.
Ron Paul is in favor of repealing Roe v. Wade because he feels that abortion, as well as same sex marriage, is an issue that should be handled on a state by state basis.
Many of the items listed there that state that Kucinich is the only candidate to support are an out right lie and if Kucinich in any way approved of this message than he is no better than the other politicians who would spread lies and half truths.
The girl that bulletined this is not from the Kucinich site and since she left a link to ontheissues I figured that's where she got it from and it was accurate so I didn't check it. My fault. I'll double check next time. She's always been very honest and a nice person...I wasn't expecting her to lie.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Exactly. Just posting that Ron Paul voted against the expansion of the AMBER alert program without providing the why is omitting important information.
Well sites like Project Vote Smart and OnThe Issues do exactly that...they just show the voting records. And both of those have received good receptions when I posted them here.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The girl that bulletined this is not from the Kucinich site and since she left a link to ontheissues I figured that's where she got it from and it was accurate so I didn't check it. My fault. I'll double check next time. She's always been very honest and a nice person...I wasn't expecting her to lie.
I'm not blaming you in anyway. I know you where just passing on what was sent to you.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Well sites like Project Vote Smart and OnThe Issues do exactly that...they just show the voting records. And both of those have received good receptions when I posted them here.
i agree that those sites are a great source of information. I just think that stating that someone voted for this or didn't vote for that without providing at least a reason behind their decision is leaving out a lot of information and is not presenting a clear picture of what the candidate stands for.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
i agree that those sites are a great source of information. I just think that stating that someone voted for this or didn't vote for that without providing at least a reason behind their decision is leaving out a lot of information and is not presenting a clear picture of what the candidate stands for.
And at the same time, it is legitimate to cite bare facts without motivations. Any context is legitimate. What isn't legitimate is if one deliberately uses facts to paint a false picture. I'm not sure the myspace "friend" deliberately lied. She may not have been seeing the whole picture. We all have blindspots.
Even though the internet is responsible, inadvertently, for tons of false information, one positive thing is that the average person, like us posters, for example, come to learn how strenuous thorough accuracy can be. And by recognizing our own flaws, and of our peers, we become more savvy looking at the mainstream media and their own slants/biases and flaws. This is a beginning step of taking away the double tier of one being in power, and another following along blindly, now that average folks realize how much is slanted, and erroneous. Some is deliberate, some is human error.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Well thank you. But I feel pretty shitty for being too trusting.
You mean copy/pastes of articles/"facts" can backfire?? Who would have thought there'd be misinformation on the internet??? <----insert shit eating grin emoticon here.
Its okay abook, when you copy paste thousands of articles without any real knowledge of its source and with heartfelt agenda driven concern, its bound to backfire once or twice.
You mean copy/pastes of articles/"facts" can backfire?? Who would have thought there'd be misinformation on the internet??? <----insert shit eating grin emoticon here.
Its okay abook, when you copy paste thousands of articles without any real knowledge of its source and with heartfelt agenda driven concern, its bound to backfire once or twice.
Oh when will you ever grow up? Everyone here posts articles and links from all sides of the political spectrum. :rolleyes: She did post the link to ontheissues but what she included in her bulletin didn't match up with the link she had given apparently.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Oh when will you ever grow up? Everyone here posts articles and links from all sides of the political spectrum. :rolleyes: She did post the link to ontheissues but what she included in her bulletin didn't match up with the link she had given apparently.
Many here do indeed post endless links, url's and Youtube videos. But a good percentage of them, hopefully, check those facts. Besides, a grown up would be able to see the humor in their own actions, and you gotta admit, the queen of the MT copy pasters having one toss egg on her face, is kinda funny.
Lighten up abook. If you can laugh at yourself, you'll live longer and be the better person for it.
Many here do indeed post endless links, url's and Youtube videos. But a good percentage of them, hopefully, check those facts. Besides, a grown up would be able to see the humor in their own actions, and you gotta admit, the queen of the MT copy pasters having one toss egg on her face, is kinda funny.
Lighten up abook. If you can laugh at yourself, you'll live longer and be the better person for it.
Oh, I can laugh at myself just fine and do it often. But I don't find your underhanded insults dressed up all cute like as jokes to be funny, sorry.
I usually do check the facts before I post but when I saw the ontheissues link at the bottom of her bulletin I assumed that was where her info came from. And I was fine with that seeing as how I had already started a thread about ontheissues earlier this year.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Kucinich. haha. It's good to know that there are those on the left who are willing to support an underdog.
I don't care what kind of liberal you are: Hillary is awful. I would vote for Obama or Richardson before I'd vote for Hillary Clinton. Of course, I'm not a liberal. The woman has no credentials and has never done a goddamn thing in her life. Obama lived in a foreign country, went to some of our best institutions even though he had a rough background, and was elected to the senate based on sheer personal skills. Hillary rode the coattails of Bill Clinton throughout her ENTIRE LIFE.
Fuck Hillary Clinton.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
You mean copy/pastes of articles/"facts" can backfire?? Who would have thought there'd be misinformation on the internet??? <----insert shit eating grin emoticon here.
Its okay abook, when you copy paste thousands of articles without any real knowledge of its source and with heartfelt agenda driven concern, its bound to backfire once or twice.
once or twice.......
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Any idea how they arrive at those odds? I'd be taking either at 1,000,000 - 1, if anyone wanted to put up some dollars.
The girl that bulletined this is not from the Kucinich site and since she left a link to ontheissues I figured that's where she got it from and it was accurate so I didn't check it. My fault. I'll double check next time. She's always been very honest and a nice person...I wasn't expecting her to lie.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Well sites like Project Vote Smart and OnThe Issues do exactly that...they just show the voting records. And both of those have received good receptions when I posted them here.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm not blaming you in anyway. I know you where just passing on what was sent to you.
Well thank you. But I feel pretty shitty for being too trusting.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
i agree that those sites are a great source of information. I just think that stating that someone voted for this or didn't vote for that without providing at least a reason behind their decision is leaving out a lot of information and is not presenting a clear picture of what the candidate stands for.
Even though the internet is responsible, inadvertently, for tons of false information, one positive thing is that the average person, like us posters, for example, come to learn how strenuous thorough accuracy can be. And by recognizing our own flaws, and of our peers, we become more savvy looking at the mainstream media and their own slants/biases and flaws. This is a beginning step of taking away the double tier of one being in power, and another following along blindly, now that average folks realize how much is slanted, and erroneous. Some is deliberate, some is human error.
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Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You mean copy/pastes of articles/"facts" can backfire?? Who would have thought there'd be misinformation on the internet??? <----insert shit eating grin emoticon here.
Its okay abook, when you copy paste thousands of articles without any real knowledge of its source and with heartfelt agenda driven concern, its bound to backfire once or twice.
www.myspace.com/jensvad
Oh when will you ever grow up? Everyone here posts articles and links from all sides of the political spectrum. :rolleyes: She did post the link to ontheissues but what she included in her bulletin didn't match up with the link she had given apparently.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Many here do indeed post endless links, url's and Youtube videos. But a good percentage of them, hopefully, check those facts. Besides, a grown up would be able to see the humor in their own actions, and you gotta admit, the queen of the MT copy pasters having one toss egg on her face, is kinda funny.
Lighten up abook. If you can laugh at yourself, you'll live longer and be the better person for it.
www.myspace.com/jensvad
Oh, I can laugh at myself just fine and do it often. But I don't find your underhanded insults dressed up all cute like as jokes to be funny, sorry.
I usually do check the facts before I post but when I saw the ontheissues link at the bottom of her bulletin I assumed that was where her info came from. And I was fine with that seeing as how I had already started a thread about ontheissues earlier this year.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I don't care what kind of liberal you are: Hillary is awful. I would vote for Obama or Richardson before I'd vote for Hillary Clinton. Of course, I'm not a liberal. The woman has no credentials and has never done a goddamn thing in her life. Obama lived in a foreign country, went to some of our best institutions even though he had a rough background, and was elected to the senate based on sheer personal skills. Hillary rode the coattails of Bill Clinton throughout her ENTIRE LIFE.
Fuck Hillary Clinton.
-Enoch Powell
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....