Kucinich and Paul in comparison

Abookamongstthemany
Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
One of my friends on myspace posted thisand I thought I'd share


Dennis Kucinich
http://www.ontheissues.org/OH/Dennis_Kucinich.htm


Ron Paul
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm

edit: I did not double check the ontheissues link for Ron Paul before posting...so I'll just leave the links up alone
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    I learned a lot from it.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    no contest if you pay attention.

    there really only is one candidate if you pay attention and actually want a progressive change in this country. and it is obvious who it is.

    i do not understand why EVERYONE isnt backing kucinich.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Is this all for real?

    fuck.

    Come back, FFG.
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    was that I learned a lot about two candidates who stood out to me during the so-called debates, so far. Abook in one post showed me the difference between the two.

    Therefore, I found it to be a great post.

    Doesn't mean I'll support either Kucinich or Paul, but it was still a great post.

    Anything that educates future voters, is great, no?
    Feels Good Inc.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Bu2 wrote:
    was that I learned a lot about two candidates who stood out to me during the so-called debates, so far. Abook in one post showed me the difference between the two.

    Therefore, I found it to be a great post.

    Doesn't mean I'll support either Kucinich or Paul, but it was still a great post.

    Anything that educates future voters, is great, no?

    Yes.

    Paul's votes, on the whole, aren't that particularly bad, but Kucinich is a modern marvel.
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    what is the name recognition of these two candidates combined...5%?

    my fringe candidate is duncan hunter, but even i'm not naive enough to think he's gonna win.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    what is the name recognition of these two candidates combined...5%?

    my fringe candidate is duncan hunter, but even i'm not naive enough to think he's gonna win.
    Would you vote for a fringe candidate?
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    gue_barium wrote:
    Would you vote for a fringe candidate?

    i voted for harry browne in 2000...if that's not fringe...i don't know what is...

    i'm guessing you are looking at the dems and not seeing any true believers... likewise, i don't see any conservatives with the GOP field, except for hunter, maybe huckabee...i guess we can all agree that the fruntrunners, guiliani, clinton, obama, romney,....they are interested in power, at the expense of us. they are all phoney...the ruling class is kind of a joke, and we've reached the point where we all know it....
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    i voted for harry browne in 2000...if that's not fringe...i don't know what is...

    i'm guessing you are looking at the dems and not seeing any true believers... likewise, i don't see any conservatives with the GOP field, except for hunter, maybe huckabee...i guess we can all agree that the fruntrunners, guiliani, clinton, obama, romney,....they are interested in power, at the expense of us. they are all phoney...the ruling class is kind of a joke, and we've reached the point where we all know it....
    So, a fringe candidate, in this upcoming election, in your opinion, may have a shot...

    I agree.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    i'm guessing you are looking at the dems and not seeing any true believers... likewise, i don't see any conservatives with the GOP field, except for hunter, maybe huckabee...i guess we can all agree that the fruntrunners, guiliani, clinton, obama, romney,....they are interested in power, at the expense of us. they are all phoney...the ruling class is kind of a joke, and we've reached the point where we all know it....
    Pretty much. :)
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Bu2 wrote:
    was that I learned a lot about two candidates who stood out to me during the so-called debates, so far. Abook in one post showed me the difference between the two.

    Therefore, I found it to be a great post.

    Doesn't mean I'll support either Kucinich or Paul, but it was still a great post.

    Anything that educates future voters, is great, no?


    i agree, i would like to see where other candidates stand in this manner...

    the links given could be used to do them, easily, i would think...

    just a way to see their resume and see if it matches up w/ their media tours
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    I don't have a lot of time right now to explain but there is a lot of misinformation in your post abook. Later today I will elaborate.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    One of my friends on myspace posted thisand I thought I'd share
    Dennis Kucinich

    Only one candidate for President voted against the misnamed "Patriot Act."

    Ron Paul voted "no" as well
    http://vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=296&type=category&category=61&go.x=13&go.y=7
    and has repeatedly voted no on making it permanent. Just want to clarify
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Ron Paul has voted NO against the Patriot Act.
    Ron Paul has voted NO for authorizing the War in Iraq
    Ron Paul voted NO to authorize additional spending for the war.
    Ron Paul voted YES on the non binding resolution disavowing the War in Iraq
    Ron Paul voted NO to authorize drilling in ANWAR
    Ron Paul has voted against NAFTA.
    Ron Paul does only want to do away with Bush tax cuts, he wants to completely scrap the IRS and our current tax system.
    Ron Paul voted NO on the expansion of the AMBER alert system hich included the creation of a federal agency to handle it. Ron Paul is not against the AMBER alert system but is smart enough to see that there is no need for more levels of government bueracracy to implement it.
    Ron Paul is in favor of repealing Roe v. Wade because he feels that abortion, as well as same sex marriage, is an issue that should be handled on a state by state basis.

    Many of the items listed there that state that Kucinich is the only candidate to support are an out right lie and if Kucinich in any way approved of this message than he is no better than the other politicians who would spread lies and half truths.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    mammasan wrote:
    Many of the items listed there that state that Kucinich is the only candidate to support are an out right lie and if Kucinich in any way approved of this message than he is no better than the other politicians who would spread lies and half truths.

    I have no idea regarding the accuracy mentioned. Abook did say, though, that one of her friends posted this on myspace, which means there is strong probability that Kucinich had nothing to do with misinformation, if it in fact exists. People on myspace send out all kinds of "information".
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    I wonder if anyone else can attest to the mentioned "inaccuracies", and if anyone is willing to find where these so-called inaccuracies stem from given the links in the original article. Anyone....mammasan?
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    angelica wrote:
    I wonder if anyone else can attest to the mentioned "inaccuracies", and if anyone is willing to find where these so-called inaccuracies stem from given the links in the original article. Anyone....mammasan?

    If you go to Project Vote Smart you can look up each individuals voting record.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    mammasan wrote:
    If you go to Project Vote Smart you can look up each individuals voting record.

    add to that ontheissues.org it's got some good information as well.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    mammasan wrote:
    If you go to Project Vote Smart you can look up each individuals voting record.
    What it's looking like to me is that if there has been any slanting of information--and I don't know this yet--it's been by the people from myspace who have compiled the information culled from the linked resources into this article, for their purposes.

    It looks completely unconnected to the candidates themselves.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    angelica wrote:
    What it's looking like to me is that if there has been any slanting of information--and I don't know this yet--it's been by the people from myspace who have compiled the information culled from the linked resources into this article, for their purposes.

    It looks completely unconnected to the candidates themselves.

    these kinds of posts are misleading anyways ... unless a candidate were to give a synopsis on why they voted each time - you can't tell their motivation ...

    many times they will slide provisions and riders on bills ... so, although the main crux of the bill is to provide cheap drugs to africa, it will also contain a provision to drill for oil in alaska or something ...

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