Why the hate for liberalism from Republicans?

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  • BogoEN
    BogoEN Posts: 65
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    How a bunch of idiots in the 80s chanting death to democrats means that Conservatives are more harsh towards democrats I'm not sure. That is one example, of conservatives bashing dems. There are just as many examples of dems bashing republicans. It goes both ways.

    Those bunch of idiots were also led by an evangelist who later became a leading Republican in the RNC. I just can't remember his name. I DO remember that he resigned because of some money laundering...
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  • BogoEN
    BogoEN Posts: 65
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    How did you expect it would go? I'm sorry but your original post was just flat wrong. Spend enough time on this board and you can really tell me that Cons are more critical of Libs.
    I don't think it was flat wrong at all. If you read the post, I didn't say conservatives were more critical, I said that there was more HATE being promoted towards liberals and liberalism. Criticism is one thing, unwarranted personal attacks is something else.
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    BogoEN wrote:
    Those bunch of idiots were also led by an evangelist who later became a leading Republican in the RNC. I just can't remember his name. I DO remember that he resigned because of some money laundering...

    Ok, so some of them were corrupt. What does that really have to do with Conservatives being more hateful towards Liberals?
  • BogoEN
    BogoEN Posts: 65
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Ok, so some of them were corrupt. What does that really have to do with Conservatives being more hateful towards Liberals?
    The laundering was an aside. I was trying to make the point that he was granted a high-profile seat within the party's ranks, even after it was well known about his being outspoken against Democrats. I'm not looking to argue, I'm simply stating what I see. That's fine if you disagree, but don't suggest that I'm misleading anyone here, it's just subjective opinion. I honestly hear and see more personal attacks on Liberals (i.e. Ann Coulter getting a book deal, then getting on the Best-Sellers lists) than I do vice versa. I deeeeefinitely also see it the other way around, but not as much. That's what I'm saying.
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I don't think anyone really answered BogoEN's question though. If conservatives, republicans, or whoever, want to start a reverse thread, go for it, but why not stick to the original topic here? Answer the WHY of dislike for liberalism, instead of just saying basically 'you do it too' or 'you do it more'. ie. What about liberalism is it that you don't like?
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    BogoEN wrote:
    The laundering was an aside. I was trying to make the point that he was granted a high-profile seat within the party's ranks, even after it was well known about his being outspoken against Democrats. I'm not looking to argue, I'm simply stating what I see. That's fine if you disagree, but don't suggest that I'm misleading anyone here, it's just subjective opinion. I honestly hear and see more personal attacks on Liberals (i.e. Ann Coulter getting a book deal, then getting on the Best-Sellers lists) than I do vice versa. I deeeeefinitely also see it the other way around, but not as much. That's what I'm saying.

    I don't want to argue either. If you see it that way that's fine with me. I just see it differently. Your right there are difinitely people like Ann Coulter throwing mud at liberals. I just remember being in college a couple years ago at the UW and listening to my political science professors calling Bush Hitler and general taking any conservative republican idea or figure and throwing a bunch of mud at them. We might have Rush and Ann throwing are insults, but liberals have a much more powerful tool in the college professors who fill students heads with a bunch of garbage.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    JaneNY wrote:
    I don't think anyone really answered BogoEN's question though. If conservatives, republicans, or whoever, want to start a reverse thread, go for it, but why not stick to the original topic here? Answer the WHY of dislike for liberalism, instead of just saying basically 'you do it too' or 'you do it more'. ie. What about liberalism is it that you don't like?
    Or more accurately, what about liberalism arouses such ferocious hatred? Not just dislike ... there's certainly plenty to dislike or disagree with if you're of a conservative mind, but what exactly would incite someone to scream "Death to Democrats!"?

    I'd be happy to elaborate on what it is about some conservatives that really gets me going, if someone wants to start that thread, but this thread isn't the place. The guy asked a question, and I know there are people here who really HATE liberals, so they should be able to answer it.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Cree Nations
    Cree Nations Posts: 2,247
    I dont know, I know what I have noticed here. Republicans tend to lack a funny bone and cant get take a joke and when they do make a joke, it is usually at the expense of some minority opinion. Both parties though are def. passionate about their beliefs, thats for sure.
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    JaneNY wrote:
    I don't think anyone really answered BogoEN's question though. If conservatives, republicans, or whoever, want to start a reverse thread, go for it, but why not stick to the original topic here? Answer the WHY of dislike for liberalism, instead of just saying basically 'you do it too' or 'you do it more'. ie. What about liberalism is it that you don't like?

    Ok, good point. I don't really care for the notion that liberals or liberalism knows how to spend my hard earned money better then I do. When I think of Liberalism I think of taxes going up and less of my money going towards the things I think are important, like ames and klausen pearl jam posters. Kidding.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Ok, good point. I don't really care for the notion that liberals or liberalism knows how to spend my hard earned money better then I do. When I think of Liberalism I think of taxes going up and less of my money going towards the things I think are important, like ames and klausen pearl jam posters. Kidding.
    I think you've made an excellent point, at least as far as the Klausen prints are concerned.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    I don't want to argue either. If you see it that way that's fine with me. I just see it differently. Your right there are difinitely people like Ann Coulter throwing mud at liberals. I just remember being in college a couple years ago at the UW and listening to my political science professors calling Bush Hitler and general taking any conservative republican idea or figure and throwing a bunch of mud at them. We might have Rush and Ann throwing are insults, but liberals have a much more powerful tool in the college professors who fill students heads with a bunch of garbage.
    entertained the idea that maybe these college professors that have lots of education and experience behind them may actually have a point. I mean...there are alot of similiarities between Bush and Hitler. Some of us just see what the current administration is all about....think its a slam dunk and are not at all suprised that college professors feel the same way.
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    callen wrote:
    entertained the idea that maybe these college professors that have lots of education and experience behind them may actually have a point. I mean...there are alot of similiarities between Bush and Hitler. Some of us just see what the current administration is all about....think its a slam dunk and are not at all suprised that college professors feel the same way.

    Actually I just figured they were idiots
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Actually I just figured they were idiots

    fair enough....just had to ask....sarcastically I know....course trying to be a good liberal... (-;
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    callen wrote:
    fair enough....just had to ask....sarcastically I know....course trying to be a good liberal... (-;

    I'm really only kidding, I know that they weren't idiots, but it got old pretty quick to come to class everyday and hear my professor spend the first ten to fifteen minutes giving us his op-ed on why Bush was Hitler. This was before the war in Iraq. It sucks to pay as much as you do for college and then get stuck with professors like this one. I really think you should pay per class, and be able to get a refund if you find the service in the class to be unexceptable.
  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    I'm really only kidding, I know that they weren't idiots, but it got old pretty quick to come to class everyday and hear my professor spend the first ten to fifteen minutes giving us his op-ed on why Bush was Hitler. This was before the war in Iraq. It sucks to pay as much as you do for college and then get stuck with professors like this one. I really think you should pay per class, and be able to get a refund if you find the service in the class to be unexceptable.

    I'm as liberal as they come in a lot of ways, but I (and I have some teaching background) think a better way of educating people is ask the students WHAT they think, and WHY they think it, rather than just standing there telling you guys what he thinks. Do you think it would be more acceptable if someone started out with 'some people have compared Bush to Hitler. Do you agree, disagree? If so, why or why not'. The key is to get people thinking substantively. If all you do is talk at people it doesn't do much good educationally IMO.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    I'm really only kidding, I know that they weren't idiots, but it got old pretty quick to come to class everyday and hear my professor spend the first ten to fifteen minutes giving us his op-ed on why Bush was Hitler. This was before the war in Iraq. It sucks to pay as much as you do for college and then get stuck with professors like this one. I really think you should pay per class, and be able to get a refund if you find the service in the class to be unexceptable.

    and like what's in the post above....prof. should be having students think..not lecture....think JaneNY post...cool stuff.
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    JaneNY wrote:
    I'm as liberal as they come in a lot of ways, but I (and I have some teaching background) think a better way of educating people is ask the students WHAT they think, and WHY they think it, rather than just standing there telling you guys what he thinks. Do you think it would be more acceptable if someone started out with 'some people have compared Bush to Hitler. Do you agree, disagree? If so, why or why not'. The key is to get people thinking substantively. If all you do is talk at people it doesn't do much good educationally IMO.

    I totally agree, you are probably a great teacher. It really would have been refreshing to have a college professor ask me what I thought. It seems to me after going to college most professors are more interested in spewing their political rambling, conservative or liberal, though mostly liberal. There is no exchange of ideas, which is too bad, because I think that is a great way to learn.
  • Hope&Anger
    Hope&Anger Posts: 260
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    I totally agree, you are probably a great teacher. It really would have been refreshing to have a college professor ask me what I thought. It seems to me after going to college most professors are more interested in spewing their political rambling, conservative or liberal, though mostly liberal. There is no exchange of ideas, which is too bad, because I think that is a great way to learn.
    Did you ever raise your and and offer your opinion? Did you ever ask a question? Did you ever ask your professor what he or she thought about an alternative view? Or did you just sit there?
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    Hope&Anger wrote:
    Did you ever raise your and and offer your opinion? Did you ever ask a question? Did you ever ask your professor what he or she thought about an alternative view? Or did you just sit there?

    Thanks for asking. Yeah one day I did have enough of his diatribe, so I raised me hand and asked him what he thought should be done differently with the war on terror, this was right before Iraq if I remember correctly. I told him it was easy to criticize everything and everyone else, but what ideas did he have to do things differently. He wouldn't answer the question.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    He wouldn't answer the question.

    You're lucky. I got kicked out of class and failed for doing that. Only lesson I learned there was to only ask questions before the drop deadline.

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