Why the hate for liberalism from Republicans?

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    I don't want to argue either. If you see it that way that's fine with me. I just see it differently. Your right there are difinitely people like Ann Coulter throwing mud at liberals. I just remember being in college a couple years ago at the UW and listening to my political science professors calling Bush Hitler and general taking any conservative republican idea or figure and throwing a bunch of mud at them. We might have Rush and Ann throwing are insults, but liberals have a much more powerful tool in the college professors who fill students heads with a bunch of garbage.
    entertained the idea that maybe these college professors that have lots of education and experience behind them may actually have a point. I mean...there are alot of similiarities between Bush and Hitler. Some of us just see what the current administration is all about....think its a slam dunk and are not at all suprised that college professors feel the same way.
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  • callen wrote:
    entertained the idea that maybe these college professors that have lots of education and experience behind them may actually have a point. I mean...there are alot of similiarities between Bush and Hitler. Some of us just see what the current administration is all about....think its a slam dunk and are not at all suprised that college professors feel the same way.

    Actually I just figured they were idiots
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Actually I just figured they were idiots

    fair enough....just had to ask....sarcastically I know....course trying to be a good liberal... (-;
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  • callen wrote:
    fair enough....just had to ask....sarcastically I know....course trying to be a good liberal... (-;

    I'm really only kidding, I know that they weren't idiots, but it got old pretty quick to come to class everyday and hear my professor spend the first ten to fifteen minutes giving us his op-ed on why Bush was Hitler. This was before the war in Iraq. It sucks to pay as much as you do for college and then get stuck with professors like this one. I really think you should pay per class, and be able to get a refund if you find the service in the class to be unexceptable.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I'm really only kidding, I know that they weren't idiots, but it got old pretty quick to come to class everyday and hear my professor spend the first ten to fifteen minutes giving us his op-ed on why Bush was Hitler. This was before the war in Iraq. It sucks to pay as much as you do for college and then get stuck with professors like this one. I really think you should pay per class, and be able to get a refund if you find the service in the class to be unexceptable.

    I'm as liberal as they come in a lot of ways, but I (and I have some teaching background) think a better way of educating people is ask the students WHAT they think, and WHY they think it, rather than just standing there telling you guys what he thinks. Do you think it would be more acceptable if someone started out with 'some people have compared Bush to Hitler. Do you agree, disagree? If so, why or why not'. The key is to get people thinking substantively. If all you do is talk at people it doesn't do much good educationally IMO.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    I'm really only kidding, I know that they weren't idiots, but it got old pretty quick to come to class everyday and hear my professor spend the first ten to fifteen minutes giving us his op-ed on why Bush was Hitler. This was before the war in Iraq. It sucks to pay as much as you do for college and then get stuck with professors like this one. I really think you should pay per class, and be able to get a refund if you find the service in the class to be unexceptable.

    and like what's in the post above....prof. should be having students think..not lecture....think JaneNY post...cool stuff.
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  • JaneNY wrote:
    I'm as liberal as they come in a lot of ways, but I (and I have some teaching background) think a better way of educating people is ask the students WHAT they think, and WHY they think it, rather than just standing there telling you guys what he thinks. Do you think it would be more acceptable if someone started out with 'some people have compared Bush to Hitler. Do you agree, disagree? If so, why or why not'. The key is to get people thinking substantively. If all you do is talk at people it doesn't do much good educationally IMO.

    I totally agree, you are probably a great teacher. It really would have been refreshing to have a college professor ask me what I thought. It seems to me after going to college most professors are more interested in spewing their political rambling, conservative or liberal, though mostly liberal. There is no exchange of ideas, which is too bad, because I think that is a great way to learn.
  • I totally agree, you are probably a great teacher. It really would have been refreshing to have a college professor ask me what I thought. It seems to me after going to college most professors are more interested in spewing their political rambling, conservative or liberal, though mostly liberal. There is no exchange of ideas, which is too bad, because I think that is a great way to learn.
    Did you ever raise your and and offer your opinion? Did you ever ask a question? Did you ever ask your professor what he or she thought about an alternative view? Or did you just sit there?
    "Things will just get better and better even though it
    doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
    idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
    Hope! Hope is the underdog!"

    -- EV, Live at the Showbox
  • Hope&Anger wrote:
    Did you ever raise your and and offer your opinion? Did you ever ask a question? Did you ever ask your professor what he or she thought about an alternative view? Or did you just sit there?

    Thanks for asking. Yeah one day I did have enough of his diatribe, so I raised me hand and asked him what he thought should be done differently with the war on terror, this was right before Iraq if I remember correctly. I told him it was easy to criticize everything and everyone else, but what ideas did he have to do things differently. He wouldn't answer the question.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    He wouldn't answer the question.

    You're lucky. I got kicked out of class and failed for doing that. Only lesson I learned there was to only ask questions before the drop deadline.
  • Thanks for asking. Yeah one day I did have enough of his diatribe, so I raised me hand and asked him what he thought should be done differently with the war on terror, this was right before Iraq if I remember correctly. I told him it was easy to criticize everything and everyone else, but what ideas did he have to do things differently. He wouldn't answer the question.
    Really? He wouldn't say anything? Did he just ignore you? That must have been weird.
    "Things will just get better and better even though it
    doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
    idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
    Hope! Hope is the underdog!"

    -- EV, Live at the Showbox
  • zstillings wrote:
    You're lucky. I got kicked out of class and failed for doing that. Only lesson I learned there was to only ask questions before the drop deadline.
    Really? How did you get kicked out of a class for asking a question?
    "Things will just get better and better even though it
    doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
    idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
    Hope! Hope is the underdog!"

    -- EV, Live at the Showbox
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Hope&Anger wrote:
    Really? How did you get kicked out of a class for asking a question?

    I challenged the professor on the "Contract on America" as she called it (she was actually just a grad student who was teaching the class) by asking how, exactly, it was being drawn up just to hurt minorities in this country. She said I was being disruptive. I asked her to answer and she told me not to bother coming back. I went back one more time to fill out an evaluation. That never really got read anyway.
  • zstillings wrote:
    I challenged the professor on the "Contract on America" as she called it (she was actually just a grad student who was teaching the class) by asking how, exactly, it was being drawn up just to hurt minorities in this country. She said I was being disruptive. I asked her to answer and she told me not to bother coming back. I went back one more time to fill out an evaluation. That never really got read anyway.
    I'm confused. You asked a single question and got called disruptive? And you got excluded from the class? Did you ever try to go back? You didn't complain to the head of the department? (I assume that you failed because you stopped doing the assignments. Or were you doing the assignments and getting bad grades because of your views?)
    "Things will just get better and better even though it
    doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
    idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
    Hope! Hope is the underdog!"

    -- EV, Live at the Showbox
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Hope&Anger wrote:
    I'm confused. You asked a single question and got called disruptive? And you got excluded from the class? Did you ever try to go back? You didn't complain to the head of the department? (I assume that you failed because you stopped doing the assignments. Or were you doing the assignments and getting bad grades because of your views?)

    I stopped doing the assignments once I realized that multiple choice questions were nothing more than opinion. I quit fighting that fight once I ran into a brick wall at the department (couldn't get a meeting) and then I just quit caring so much. This was just one of the examples of times that I would be in trouble for questioning the opinions held by the University. After taking a few years off of college, I realized that, when I went back, it was just easier to say what they wanted to hear and get the hell out of there rather than try to have a mind of my own. Obviously I still do but now I have a degree from them. For this reason, my college diploma is sitting on the floor of my closet somewhere now.
  • Hope&Anger wrote:
    Really? He wouldn't say anything? Did he just ignore you? That must have been weird.

    Yeah it was weird. If I remember correctly he told me it wasn't his job to make policy or something like that. I can't recall exactly what he said, but he in no way gave an alternative explaination. I wish he would have given me some of his ideas on the way things should be. I can't imagine with the contempt he showed our current administration he didn't have some ideas.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    I am for a balanced, nonpartisan government. I hate anyone who leans too far in either direction. We as a nation operate better from the middle ground than we ever will from either extreme. I do feel as though the current sitting US president is too far to the Christian right and that does not support my best interest.

    Plus, I am not for any one party to control all 3 branches (House, Senate, White House) of our federal government. The key is though for all congressman/woman to be more middle grounded and willing to work with the opposing party.

    I personally wouldn't mind if the Dems held control of both the Senate and the House, and have say John McCain in the White House. He is way more of a middle ground GOP candidate....just like the more middle grounded Dems who just won their seats.
  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    BogoEN wrote:
    I'm just so tired of reading posts from the people on here who insist on making their point, arguing against any liberal stand point, and then taking it further by insulting all liberals and Dems or what have you. I honestly don't hear Dems or liberals ever saying they "hate" Republicans. They don't love them, sure. Some will even say they hate them. But most at least have respect for people with more conservative views. But there was a rally in the 80's during the Reagan "Revolution" where a group of YOUNG neo-cons, Abramoff included in the group, began to chant "Death to the Democrats, Take their blood!"

    ...

    That's just obsene. I would never, even in jest, suggest the slaughter of Republicans. If you want to argue that this doesn't exist, this was an email to CNN after they opened a forum asking what Democrats should do now that they are in majority in the Congress;

    "Matt Clark from Saint Charles, Missouri
    What should the Democrats do first? Step down. That'd be the only productive thing they are capable of doing to secure America and its future."

    And that was posted on CNN.com, not IHATELIBERALS.com

    I seriously want to hear viewpoints on this.
    well first only the severely uninformed think liberalism won last tuesday. thats a person that didnt do any homework on the election (and im as far left as can be) my party won with moderate candidates.
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
  • BogoEN wrote:
    I'm just so tired of reading posts from the people on here who insist on making their point, arguing against any liberal stand point, and then taking it further by insulting all liberals and Dems or what have you. I honestly don't hear Dems or liberals ever saying they "hate" Republicans. They don't love them, sure. Some will even say they hate them. But most at least have respect for people with more conservative views. But there was a rally in the 80's during the Reagan "Revolution" where a group of YOUNG neo-cons, Abramoff included in the group, began to chant "Death to the Democrats, Take their blood!"

    ...

    That's just obsene. I would never, even in jest, suggest the slaughter of Republicans. If you want to argue that this doesn't exist, this was an email to CNN after they opened a forum asking what Democrats should do now that they are in majority in the Congress;

    "Matt Clark from Saint Charles, Missouri
    What should the Democrats do first? Step down. That'd be the only productive thing they are capable of doing to secure America and its future."

    And that was posted on CNN.com, not IHATELIBERALS.com

    I seriously want to hear viewpoints on this.

    It goes both ways. Your view is a close minded and biased.
    Oh he fills it up with the love of a girl...
  • I love the way liberals try doing these clever little sarcastic jokes are all like "Ahhhhh ;)" when everyone is really just like "I dont give a shit"

    I hate the way Republicans/conservatives will moan the shit out of an issue yet they won't come up with any solution.
    no matter where you go,
    there you are.

    - brain of c
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I love the way liberals try doing these clever little sarcastic jokes are all like "Ahhhhh ;)" when everyone is really just like "I dont give a shit"

    I hate the way Republicans/conservatives will moan the shit out of an issue yet they won't come up with any solution.


    I think you have it backwards.
  • BogoEN wrote:
    I honestly don't hear Dems or liberals ever saying they "hate" Republicans.
    BogoEN wrote:
    They don't love them, sure. Some will even say they hate them.


    Huh?
    no matter where you go,
    there you are.

    - brain of c
  • BogoEN wrote:
    not IHATELIBERALS.com

    I was pleased to see that this was a real website :D
    no matter where you go,
    there you are.

    - brain of c
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