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Why the hate for liberalism from Republicans?

BogoENBogoEN Posts: 65
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
I'm just so tired of reading posts from the people on here who insist on making their point, arguing against any liberal stand point, and then taking it further by insulting all liberals and Dems or what have you. I honestly don't hear Dems or liberals ever saying they "hate" Republicans. They don't love them, sure. Some will even say they hate them. But most at least have respect for people with more conservative views. But there was a rally in the 80's during the Reagan "Revolution" where a group of YOUNG neo-cons, Abramoff included in the group, began to chant "Death to the Democrats, Take their blood!"

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That's just obsene. I would never, even in jest, suggest the slaughter of Republicans. If you want to argue that this doesn't exist, this was an email to CNN after they opened a forum asking what Democrats should do now that they are in majority in the Congress;

"Matt Clark from Saint Charles, Missouri
What should the Democrats do first? Step down. That'd be the only productive thing they are capable of doing to secure America and its future."

And that was posted on CNN.com, not IHATELIBERALS.com

I seriously want to hear viewpoints on this.
"Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."

Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    dude seriously. you really havent seen the hate coming from both sides on this board? people are very passionate about their opinions. the title of the thread could easily be changed.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    they know they're wrong...and fighting it with all their might. (-;
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    It goes both ways. Stop pretending it doesn't. I'm pretty centered, but lean a little to the left. Liberals are just as guilty.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    should i post the video where liberals throw cake at anne coulter.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    This is going to be a thread of "it swings both ways."

    My boss in 2000 said that his problem with the left is the hate they have for the right. The right hated Clinton, but nobody else. The left hated a ton of people: Rush (that's a ton right there), Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmand, etc. etc.

    And I thought he was right. More hate coming from the left toward right wing individuals.

    But that all turned around sometime around...September of 2001. We were attacked and had a Republican President become immensely popular simply because he happened to be president at the time. Then the hate shifted. The hate was toward the left, all liberals and particularly anyone that dare criticize the President.

    As time passed, the president's teflon fell off and it became OK to disagree with him again.

    ...

    And now the hate. Pretty damn bad on both sides.

    HOWEVER, I will say this. "Liberal" is a dirty word. "Conservative" is not.

    EDITED FOR GRAMMAR, NOT SUBSTANCE
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    small but very vocal groups of loud extremists.


    the large majority of the US and the world is moderate. They simply don't make themselves heard as much.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    It goes both ways. Stop pretending it doesn't. I'm pretty centered, but lean a little to the left. Liberals are just as guilty.


    and the white sox are awsome. see I knew we could be friends ;)
  • BogoENBogoEN Posts: 65
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    HOWEVER, I will say this. "Liberal" is a dirty word. "Conservative" is not.

    EDITED FOR GRAMMAR, NOT SUBSTANCE
    That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. No, most of you are definitely right that it DOES go both ways, but I suppose I'm speaking more to the fact that, from my perspective, the scales still tip heavily toward more anti-liberalism than vice versa. There are definitely radical anti-right groups, but the anti-left groups have literally recieved political leverage recently.

    As for Ann Coulter, talk about a hater. Sure she really is just looking to shock from a right-wing perspective, but honestly, some people take that garbage seriously. And don't ask for me to quote something that proves that, I would hope even-minded readers would see it in a second. And the cake thing, well, I dunno...I can't speak for everyone. (although I bet a million bucks that there are truckloads of Republicans who would give anything to do that to Michael Moore.)
    "Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."

    Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
  • Scratchin a LetterScratchin a Letter Posts: 2,303
    miller8966 wrote:
    should i post the video where liberals throw cake at anne coulter.
    yer i know that's so childish. if i was there i'd have thrown a dart at the cunt.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    yer i know that's so childish. if i was there i'd have thrown a dart at the cunt.

    yea good one. You seem like a real winner...have fun standing on the soup line.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    This is going to be a thread of "it swings both ways."

    My boss in 2000 said that his problem with the left is the hate they have for the right.
    HOWEVER, I will say this. "Liberal" is a dirty word. "Conservative" is not.

    EDITED FOR GRAMMAR, NOT SUBSTANCE

    I don't hate Republicans. I just think they're generally ridiculous, and I enjoy taking the piss out of them.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I don't hate Republicans. I just think they're generally ridiculous, and I enjoy taking the piss out of them.

    Exactly how i feel about uptight liberals.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    miller8966 wrote:
    Exactly how i feel about uptight liberals.

    do you even know what 'taking the piss' means?
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    miller8966 wrote:
    Exactly how i feel about uptight liberals.
    You got it backwards. Conserves are uptight, Libs are lazy. ;)
  • Scratchin a LetterScratchin a Letter Posts: 2,303
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I don't hate Republicans. I just think they're generally ridiculous, and I enjoy taking the piss out of them.
    wait a minute, you enjoy taking the piss out of narrow-minded, flag-waving, gun-happy religious conservatives?!?! blimey.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    VictoryGin wrote:
    do you even know what 'taking the piss' means?

    Yes i know...are ya mad fer it!
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  • Skitch PattersonSkitch Patterson Posts: 642
    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    wait a minute, you enjoy taking the piss out of narrow-minded, flag-waving, gun-happy religious conservatives?!?! blimey.


    Way to be constructive.


    The "narrow minded" phrase in your post is also hysterical in the context you used it in.
  • The IllinoisemakersThe Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    How a bunch of idiots in the 80s chanting death to democrats means that Conservatives are more harsh towards democrats I'm not sure. That is one example, of conservatives bashing dems. There are just as many examples of dems bashing republicans. It goes both ways.
  • BogoENBogoEN Posts: 65
    This thread is DEFINITELY going the way I wanted it to...oh well.
    "Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."

    Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
  • The IllinoisemakersThe Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    BogoEN wrote:
    This thread is DEFINITELY going the way I wanted it to...oh well.

    How did you expect it would go? I'm sorry but your original post was just flat wrong. Spend enough time on this board and you can really tell me that Cons are more critical of Libs.
  • BogoENBogoEN Posts: 65
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    How a bunch of idiots in the 80s chanting death to democrats means that Conservatives are more harsh towards democrats I'm not sure. That is one example, of conservatives bashing dems. There are just as many examples of dems bashing republicans. It goes both ways.

    Those bunch of idiots were also led by an evangelist who later became a leading Republican in the RNC. I just can't remember his name. I DO remember that he resigned because of some money laundering...
    "Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."

    Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
  • BogoENBogoEN Posts: 65
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    How did you expect it would go? I'm sorry but your original post was just flat wrong. Spend enough time on this board and you can really tell me that Cons are more critical of Libs.
    I don't think it was flat wrong at all. If you read the post, I didn't say conservatives were more critical, I said that there was more HATE being promoted towards liberals and liberalism. Criticism is one thing, unwarranted personal attacks is something else.
    "Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."

    Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
  • The IllinoisemakersThe Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    BogoEN wrote:
    Those bunch of idiots were also led by an evangelist who later became a leading Republican in the RNC. I just can't remember his name. I DO remember that he resigned because of some money laundering...

    Ok, so some of them were corrupt. What does that really have to do with Conservatives being more hateful towards Liberals?
  • BogoENBogoEN Posts: 65
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Ok, so some of them were corrupt. What does that really have to do with Conservatives being more hateful towards Liberals?
    The laundering was an aside. I was trying to make the point that he was granted a high-profile seat within the party's ranks, even after it was well known about his being outspoken against Democrats. I'm not looking to argue, I'm simply stating what I see. That's fine if you disagree, but don't suggest that I'm misleading anyone here, it's just subjective opinion. I honestly hear and see more personal attacks on Liberals (i.e. Ann Coulter getting a book deal, then getting on the Best-Sellers lists) than I do vice versa. I deeeeefinitely also see it the other way around, but not as much. That's what I'm saying.
    "Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."

    Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I don't think anyone really answered BogoEN's question though. If conservatives, republicans, or whoever, want to start a reverse thread, go for it, but why not stick to the original topic here? Answer the WHY of dislike for liberalism, instead of just saying basically 'you do it too' or 'you do it more'. ie. What about liberalism is it that you don't like?
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  • The IllinoisemakersThe Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    BogoEN wrote:
    The laundering was an aside. I was trying to make the point that he was granted a high-profile seat within the party's ranks, even after it was well known about his being outspoken against Democrats. I'm not looking to argue, I'm simply stating what I see. That's fine if you disagree, but don't suggest that I'm misleading anyone here, it's just subjective opinion. I honestly hear and see more personal attacks on Liberals (i.e. Ann Coulter getting a book deal, then getting on the Best-Sellers lists) than I do vice versa. I deeeeefinitely also see it the other way around, but not as much. That's what I'm saying.

    I don't want to argue either. If you see it that way that's fine with me. I just see it differently. Your right there are difinitely people like Ann Coulter throwing mud at liberals. I just remember being in college a couple years ago at the UW and listening to my political science professors calling Bush Hitler and general taking any conservative republican idea or figure and throwing a bunch of mud at them. We might have Rush and Ann throwing are insults, but liberals have a much more powerful tool in the college professors who fill students heads with a bunch of garbage.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    JaneNY wrote:
    I don't think anyone really answered BogoEN's question though. If conservatives, republicans, or whoever, want to start a reverse thread, go for it, but why not stick to the original topic here? Answer the WHY of dislike for liberalism, instead of just saying basically 'you do it too' or 'you do it more'. ie. What about liberalism is it that you don't like?
    Or more accurately, what about liberalism arouses such ferocious hatred? Not just dislike ... there's certainly plenty to dislike or disagree with if you're of a conservative mind, but what exactly would incite someone to scream "Death to Democrats!"?

    I'd be happy to elaborate on what it is about some conservatives that really gets me going, if someone wants to start that thread, but this thread isn't the place. The guy asked a question, and I know there are people here who really HATE liberals, so they should be able to answer it.
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  • Cree NationsCree Nations Posts: 2,247
    I dont know, I know what I have noticed here. Republicans tend to lack a funny bone and cant get take a joke and when they do make a joke, it is usually at the expense of some minority opinion. Both parties though are def. passionate about their beliefs, thats for sure.
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  • The IllinoisemakersThe Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    JaneNY wrote:
    I don't think anyone really answered BogoEN's question though. If conservatives, republicans, or whoever, want to start a reverse thread, go for it, but why not stick to the original topic here? Answer the WHY of dislike for liberalism, instead of just saying basically 'you do it too' or 'you do it more'. ie. What about liberalism is it that you don't like?

    Ok, good point. I don't really care for the notion that liberals or liberalism knows how to spend my hard earned money better then I do. When I think of Liberalism I think of taxes going up and less of my money going towards the things I think are important, like ames and klausen pearl jam posters. Kidding.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Ok, good point. I don't really care for the notion that liberals or liberalism knows how to spend my hard earned money better then I do. When I think of Liberalism I think of taxes going up and less of my money going towards the things I think are important, like ames and klausen pearl jam posters. Kidding.
    I think you've made an excellent point, at least as far as the Klausen prints are concerned.
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