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soulsinging

deadnothingbetter wrote:

i hear you... no matter what tho.... these jobs always fall under some kind of system which is primarily what i hate most about it, just like my job previously to this one. one of the biggest reasons i quit was because i was always feeling threatened about losing my job. and so i found a place which was a little better but little by little it ended up being the same.

and i know.... helping people is the best thing but it can be very very frustrating.... even to the most helpful person. everyone i work with gets frustrated from time to time. i particularly get frustrated on saturdays cos i hate working on those days. next time i'll make up something and say i can't work saturdays cause it's against my religion or something. j/k

i say get out. speaking as someone in recovery, the people who try to help addicts while having never been addicted can't accomplish shit anyway. nothing personal. they just have no clue what it's like, let alone how to get better. the only professionals i ever respected and listened to were the ones who have been through the wringer.

deadnothingbetter

soulsinging wrote:

i say get out. speaking as someone in recovery, the people who try to help addicts while having never been addicted can't accomplish shit anyway. nothing personal. they just have no clue what it's like, let alone how to get better. the only professionals i ever respected and listened to were the ones who have been through the wringer.

you are probably ever-so-most-valuably right....

sometimes there are patients who don't want to stay and there's really nothing life-threatening or whatnot... but still are forced to stay at times, given medical reasons or doctor's opinions, so they give them court-order's and stuff. sometimes these order's are questionable and not always do the deputies agree with the doc's.

Indian Summer

deadnothingbetter wrote:

totally....

but ask my friends and family and they call me a "wuss" :rolleyes:

You're only a "wuss" if you believe it. I'd rather be considered a "wuss" by others but enjoying life to the fullest. You get to a point in life (usually after college), where you don't give a shit what others think of you....and I mean you really don't care, and you just do your own thing. What i mean about REALLY not caring is, that you don't give "stupid-shit-like-that" the time of day....not how a high school kid thinks they're "cool" by saying they don't care what others think (because at that point that's all they care about). You'll know what I mean when you get to that point.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DNB...trust me..you're not a wuss...

uhmmm no...not a chance.,

Whoever said that, is missing a few hard facts....

hippiemom

deadnothingbetter wrote:

i hear you... no matter what tho.... these jobs always fall under some kind of system which is primarily what i hate most about it, just like my job previously to this one. one of the biggest reasons i quit was because i was always feeling threatened about losing my job. and so i found a place which was a little better but little by little it ended up being the same.

and i know.... helping people is the best thing but it can be very very frustrating.... even to the most helpful person. everyone i work with gets frustrated from time to time. i particularly get frustrated on saturdays cos i hate working on those days. next time i'll make up something and say i can't work saturdays cause it's against my religion or something. j/k

There are plenty of people other than addicts who need help. If you feel called to help others, I think that's wonderful ... it just sounds as though you might not be cut out to help these particular people. And I agree with soulsinging that you're probably limited as to what you can do because addicts will not trust someone who hasn't been where they are. I also don't think forced rehab is worth much, and if you're working with people who are there only to satisfy some court order, you're not going to see much in the way of progress.

As for your friends and family, they've got one hell of a lot of nerve. They've got their own lives to live, this one is yours. You'll be a lot happier and a lot more effective if you're doing something more suited to your talents and your temperament.

lucylespian

soulsinging wrote:

i say get out. speaking as someone in recovery, the people who try to help addicts while having never been addicted can't accomplish shit anyway. nothing personal. they just have no clue what it's like, let alone how to get better. the only professionals i ever respected and listened to were the ones who have been through the wringer.

Fucking crap !! I have met plenty of previously addicted counsellors etc, and they were fucking useless. Indulgent, ineffective, always bleating on about how much they knew, making excuses for all the crap.
You don't neeed to know what it's like to be a drug addict to be effective, you actually need to know how to live without drugs and deal with shit.

somebodyelsessky2020

first of all you have to love what you're doing to be successful at it. and no one can help everyone. it's impossible when dealing with addiction. helping just one person out of 100 is better than helping none at all. and trying is better than giving up. also you really can't work a job like this if it's only for the paycheck at the end of the week either. someone that cares alot for the cause and is willing to make sacrifices to try and change things would better fit this type of position.

deadnothingbetter

somebodyelse'ssky wrote:

first of all you have to love what you're doing to be successful at it. and no one can help everyone. it's impossible when dealing with addiction. helping just one person out of 100 is better than helping none at all. and trying is better than giving up. also you really can't work a job like this if it's only for the paycheck at the end of the week either. someone that cares alot for the cause and is willing to make sacrifices to try and change things would better fit this type of position.

last time i checked, everyone was in it for the money.... even the hospital.

sad fact of life, it's true. although i tend to agree with you and i strongly believe in what you say, the truth is when the music is over everyone is waiting for their big fat paycheck.

lucylespian

deadnothingbetter wrote:

last time i checked, everyone was in it for the money.... even the hospital.

sad fact of life, it's true. although i tend to agree with you and i strongly believe in what you say, the truth is when the music is over everyone is waiting for their big fat paycheck.

Actually, I really believe people do a better job when they are working for money, rather than for altruism. So, don't feel bad about that.

It's what your clients believe that is the problem here. You bust your slot, give them every chance, and they squander it time after time.
Personally , I give them one chance, and tell them that in the first interview, and if they blow it, that's it.
Occasionally, someone steps up to the plate. Most don't.
Your hospital does not care how many times they come back.

Seriously mate, it's really important to work out who and what any siruation is about. Best advice I ever got was "Don't let people make their problems your problem".
And for a bit of light relief onn the subject, grab the latest White STripes, and listen to the last song, "Effect and Cause".
PM me if you like, I have more than a tad of experience in health care, and especially in caring for health professionals.

bootlegger10

There is nothing wrong with leaving your job. No matter how nice or mean your bosses are, when push comes to shove the company and the dollar come first, no matter what bullshit is spouted by the top. There are things that you need to put above yourself (family), but your job is not one of them.