Jonestown

FinsburyParkCarrots

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial4/jonestown/


I think this is very informative.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Why is it that the two or three documentaries I've seen on TV about it play it out as everyone coming up to voluntarily drink a glass of poisoned fruit punch?

i.e. as per wikipedia:

"Guyanese Coroner Dr. Leslie C. Mootoo, determined that all but three of the people in Jonestown had been murdered: 80-90% had been injected with poison, while the remainder were shot or strangled."

odd...

SleepingWithTheOckus

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Why is it that the two or three documentaries I've seen on TV about it play it out as everyone coming up to voluntarily drink a glass of poisoned fruit punch?

i.e. as per wikipedia:

"Guyanese Coroner Dr. Leslie C. Mootoo, determined that all but three of the people in Jonestown had been murdered: 80-90% had been injected with poison, while the remainder were shot or strangled."

odd...

Here is a snippet of a better documentary:
Jim Jones, the CIA Operative

From "Evidence of Revision, Part 5"

THE KIDS AREN'T ALL RIGHT:

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1. 287 children died in the Jonestown massacre.

2. According to the Guyanese court which had jurisdiction in the matter, all but three of the deaths in Jonestown were ruled to be the result of murder, not suicide. Source: The New York Times, 12/12/78

3. In spite of this fact, the US news media persists in erroneously calling these deaths a "mass suicide."

4. Many of the children who died in Jonestown were wards of the State of California who had been turned over to Jim Jones and other Temple members by California judges.

5. It was illegal for these children to be removed from California yet, according to the House Foreign Affairs Committee which investigated the matter, no California official ever requested a check into the welfare or whereabouts of these children.

Kel Varnsen

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

That last recording that Jones made certainly seemed pretty unequivocal, to be sure. Not that I could stomach listening to any of it, after the sounds of the apparent suicides actually began. Horrific. I felt sick and switched off.

However, there were needle marks found in many bodies on discovery, and lots of bent syringes that suggested a struggle.

There are some odd anomalies concerning the death count in the first few days. It went up from around 400 to 900. The excuses given were that the Guyanese officials couldn't count (although they had to turn over each body and puncture it in the abdomen, to stop it from exploding in the heat), or that the bodies were piled five deep (although there's no photographic evidence of this). Rapid gun fire was heard by people fleeing the scene. There will always be unanswered questions.

There was an excellent documentary on this last year on PBS. It was basically interviews with pretty much everone alive who had any connection to Jim Jones' church. They also indicated that the people who didn't drink the Kool-Aid by choice were forced to drink it at gun point.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Yep, I just saw that, on Google Video. The jury's out, apparently, on one of the people who appeared on that broadcast, though. Here's what some conspiracy theorists have to say about the Laytons and the Blakeys, amongst other things:

http://www.theconspiracy.us/9408/0027.html

FinsburyParkCarrots

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3625536419231928674&q=pbs+jonestown&ei=ejcaSMuaOYyKiAKpi93VAQ